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07-23-2020, 06:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 183
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EU2000i starts, imediately dies..
Gas cap is unscrewed.
Fuel pump puts fuel into the bowl.
?Starting fluid seems to have no effect.
New and clean carb.
Unit had not been started in a couple years.
I found a bit of old gas in the tank beforehand.
I poured a small amout of new gas in, swished around and emptied. Did this 2-3 times.
Then before first start attempt, I unscrewed fuel bowl screw and pulled cord til some of the fuel spilled out in attempt to get to fresh gas.
Then start attempts began.
I pulled carb again, but jets were still clear.
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07-23-2020, 06:59 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Welcome Aboard 👍
Sitting that long with ethanol gas= a carb disassembly and cleaning. e-free gas and StaBil will help.
I have a 2000i dual fuel Honda. e-free Petrol & LP.
Run it on both, drain carb, for storage and keep fresh gas in it. Run it often...no problems in 15 Seasons.
Bob
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07-23-2020, 07:35 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 22' Sport
Port Coquitlam
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2020
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^^ What Bob said x2
Running premium gas is a must to keep these little engines running well. Mine gets started up every few months to keep the fuel moving.
Also, I have a BMW electric car with a little generator onboard and it only gets premium (no ethanol gas). Too expensive to fix if the injectors get gummed up with buildup.
I would rather spend my money on Airstream swag
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07-23-2020, 07:54 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 183
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Original post says new carb, and disassembled and cleaned before start attempts.
Then jets checked after unit started and quit several times.
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07-23-2020, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 22' Sport
Port Coquitlam
, British Columbia
Join Date: May 2020
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Quote:
Originally Posted by groundhogy
Original post says new carb, and disassembled and cleaned before start attempts.
Then jets checked after unit started and quit several times.
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Sorry about that. Looks like you have been working on this for bit trying to get it running.
With the obvious things out of the way, like the fuel is flowing to the carb, Perhaps the cap is not breathing so try loosening it a few turns.
Choke is connected? when the carb was removed and reinstalled did the choke linkage get reinstalled? Try starting without the air cleaner attached.
Main power on/off switch is working?
Spark plug is connected and in good shape?
Did you try priming it with a small squirt of gas right before trying to start it?
That's all I can think of at this point without pulling mine apart. Hope this helps!
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07-23-2020, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Try new spark plug, and check wire to plug? How old is this gen?
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07-23-2020, 09:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 183
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New coil module. Comes with the plug cap and wire.
I just pulled and observed the spark and to me it looks good.
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07-24-2020, 05:37 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Unplug or replace the in line fuel filter.
Bob
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07-24-2020, 05:39 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
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Bingo -- clogged with debris from old gas?
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07-24-2020, 09:38 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Woodway
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 155
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Honda EU2000i Quits
There's a pilot jet, top of the carburetor that can get partially or completely plugged. May cause rough, intermittent or no running and it's easily overlooked when the carb is removed for cleaning. Check out this link:
Try this cleaning method outdoors with an ultrasonic cleaner: put your carb in a heavy-duty Ziploc bag and fill enough to cover with ethanol-free gas. Place the bag in the tank's reservoir and fill with water to cover and run about 10 min. That's about all the time the bag will last but that should help clean any passages that might have residual particulates in them.
If you don't have access to a cleaner, use a hypodermic syringe and force 90% or better isopropyl alcohol through the passages. And pay particular attention to the needle and seat in the bowl. If the rubber tip on the needle is indented by the seat, it's time for a new one. Finally, check to make sure the float and needle move freely holding the carb upright.
I did the ultrasonic cleaner on my Honda mower carb after everything else failed. Whatever it was did the trick. Hopefully, the above video will help you get up and running again!
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07-24-2020, 09:42 AM
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2 Rivet Member
abbotsford
, British Columbia
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 41
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I had the same issue and took it in to Honda. they had to take it apart and clean the fuel line. The guy said it has a low point where varnish builds up if you leave them sitting too long. He said you should run it every month or 2 to prevent that. I do that, but since it sometimes has to sit for 6 months I bought some Aspen which is a fuel substitute. Aspen is pricey but it works. It does not break down. I fill it with that, run it for awhile and then leave it. When it goes back into regular use I recover as much of the aspen out of it as I can and use regular fuel.
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07-24-2020, 09:50 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,618
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My EU1000 was low on oil and had the same symptom. The oil light would come on for a second or less, but it is easy to miss.
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07-24-2020, 10:07 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 32' Excella
Robbinsville
, New Jersey
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,166
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Quote:
Originally Posted by azflycaster
My EU1000 was low on oil and had the same symptom. The oil light would come on for a second or less, but it is easy to miss.
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This sounds most likely, low oil or unplugged/bad oil level sensor. Mostly since starting fluid made no difference which would mostly eliminate fuel being cause.
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07-24-2020, 10:17 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 31' Classic
Gulf Breeze
, Florida
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Try a little alcohol in the gas tank. Also I had a problem with the same gen. And it was a clogged spark arrestor.
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07-24-2020, 10:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 28' International
Trois-Rivieres
, Quebec
Join Date: Jun 2018
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EU2000i starts, imediately dies..
Ultimately you could also install a dual fuel (propane/gas) adapter (for example the Hutch Mountain kit) and solve the carburator and bad gas problems by running it on propane (right off your AS or with an extra 20lb tank you could also use for your BBQ). With propane the generator will always stay clean and bone dry when in storage (and it will start!).
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07-24-2020, 10:46 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Box Elder
, SD
Join Date: Jun 2017
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My 2000 did this, it turned out there is a recall on the spark plug terminal were it connects to the spark plug. You can temp fix by bending the metal so it contacts the spark plug better. Do a search, there is a thread about it that I started.
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07-24-2020, 10:51 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 183
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Ooh thats good stuff.
I will try those things and report back.
If I need a plug, I will probably need to go to the next town over.
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07-24-2020, 11:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devilsbox
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. . . there is a thread about it that I started.
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Excellent . . . thanks: https://www.airforums.com/forums/f44...ps-172577.html
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07-24-2020, 01:04 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 183
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Ok, I’m on my way to pick up a new plug.
The one in there is mostly unused, but at leat a year old. NGK CR5HSB. Looks wet from pulling cord.
Oil looked a bit low so I topped it up to almost pouring out. Did nothing.
Now, the unit seems to have degraded. In the beginning, it was firing. Now nothing.
Question. I set the valves. Spec was 0.15mm in and 0.20mm out. Could I have set them wrong? Maybe I reverse them?
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07-24-2020, 01:14 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1990 29' Excella
baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 183
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I disconnected the on off kill wire.
Looked for the oil sensor kill wire.. looks like it might be in deep. Take off the red covers, then there are another set of black covers around the motor. I think its in there?
Is there another connector I should look for? Or wire?
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