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Old 04-28-2011, 08:45 PM   #771
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Bob,

In an effort to not turn the "WDCU Kick-Off Rally" into the "Bob and Paul New Constitution Smack Down Rally" I will not be attending.

The leadership of the WDCU are all very smart people and I'm sure they can see the New Constitution really changes nothing since all the power that controls the real problems with the WBCCI is in the "Bylaws" not the Constitution and under it's current form, the New Constitution does nothing to change that. One can say, "Well we can amend it on the floor during the delegates meeting". It's just to many if's, and's and but's to me. I would suggest changing the current Constitution with the "Forrest Amendment" which in my eyes does more to right the ship in the long run.

I hear you will be there, have fun selling them on your vision. Even though I disagree with what you're selling, I wish you safe travels. I'm sure they will treat you with respect. Plus, I remember in a post where you said you declined the invitation to sit with me at a campfire with a beer, so there's no reason for me to attend anyway.

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Old 04-28-2011, 08:54 PM   #772
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WHOA that's not right. Was Bob solicited to speak at the rally? I understand completely I think I would forgo a unit get-together in leu of a Bob smackdown wrestlemania but geeze louise Paul it's your unit. Was this prearranged or thrust upon the unit?

BTW Bob, just how mant units contacted you in your offer to speak to their unit, as opposed to you contacting or providing them with your service?

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Old 04-28-2011, 08:59 PM   #773
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pure irony is it not Carol?
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Just to set the record straight.

The offer was made to the various units and the WDCU officers agreed and accepted the offer.

Bob has been invited to the Kickoff Rally to present the case for the revision proposal. I have no doubt he will be treated with the utmost respect during his visit. The business meeting will be held the following evening.

By the way, the last business meeting of the WDCU I attended this year lasted for almost two hours and it wasn't just idle chat. If the business meetings anyone attended in the past were not presided over with the proper respect for the process, the only ones who can be blamed are the members who attended and the officers in charge.

Its easy to stand on the outside and cast aspersions.
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Its easy to stand on the outside and cast aspersions.
I am not very sure about how easy it is to sit on the outside when it is Bob who shucked you to the outside especially of the Defend Wally team if you just so happen to be me or Leo, but I will concede that Bob has been officially invited to address the unit. Thanks for the info. Now Bob, the question still remains just how many units have invited you to speak, since you changed from lawsuit advocate to revision committee member?
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Just to set the record straight.

Its easy to stand on the outside and cast aspersions.
You are very correct. Fortunately, I was on the inside for a few years, so I am speaking from knowledge.

It is great that the WDCU is taking this issue so seriously. I sure hope you all get it figured out. Bob will steer you right....
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Now Bob, the question still remains just how many units have invited you to speak, since you changed from lawsuit advocate to revision committee member?
Civility aside, Carol with your on again - off again support, replete with sarcasm I'll decline to answer your questions for now.

Please direct any inquiries here Wbccirevision@gmail.com to-date dwightdi, Nuvite, JStanley, Coloradobus, Pahaska, Ed Emerick, DreamStreamr and yourself have not asked one question directly of the committee, why?

Is it because some of "You can't handle the truth" do you wish to rely upon miss information of others including non members, I hope not!


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Now that we know who has not asked questions, who has asked questions of the committee directly?

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Civility aside, Carol with your on again - off again support, replete with sarcasm I'll decline to answer your questions for now.

Please direct any inquiries here Wbccirevision@gmail.com to-date dwightdi, Nuvite, JStanley, Coloradobus, Pahaska, Ed Emerick, DreamStreamr and yourself have not asked one question directly of the committee, why?

Is it because some of "You can't handle the truth" do you wish to rely upon miss information of others including non members, I hope not!


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Civility aside, Carol with your on again - off again support, replete with sarcasm I'll decline to answer your questions for now.

Please direct any inquiries here Wbccirevision@gmail.com to-date dwightdi, Nuvite, JStanley, Coloradobus, Pahaska, Ed Emerick, DreamStreamr and yourself have not asked one question directly of the committee, why?

Is it because some of "You can't handle the truth" do you wish to rely upon miss information of others including non members, I hope not!
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I happen to read English. I have read and reread the material with an engineer's eye. I can not think of one section where directly asking questions of a "committee" member would make me more informed.
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Old 04-29-2011, 03:28 PM   #780
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John,

Unfortunately, in today’s world it appears many people need to be told what to think instead of how to think.

Glad to see that you are one of the so called “Old School Guys” that can think for themselves.

What’s that old saying “It’s all there in black and white” if you don’t understand it, read it again and again until you do.
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Is it because some of "You can't handle the truth" do you wish to rely upon miss information of others including non members, I hope not!
Taunts from Col. Jessup isn't the best way to spread information either.

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Well the get together at WDCU was the first time I heard face to face from members (about 35+ present) about their reaction to the Revision.

It gave me an opportunity to understand and address their concerns which were different than those posted herein.

I came away with the realization that there is a need for further clarification by the Committee in certain areas which will be addressed ASAP.

I was reminded how few members read this forum.

The hospitality was very much appreciated.

Special thanks to Gayle and Tom.


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Great!!! Well said.!!
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Yes it's already in the revision with $20,000 saving to boot.
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