View Poll Results: Do you support the WBCCI's current plans to rebadge an SOB Class "A" motor home as an
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:11 PM   #57
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This whole thread gets me mad enough to pay my dues and join again. If for nothing else but to fight from within. All the arguments in the world won't change the fact that the WBCCI is AN Airstream Club. To allow a rebadged motorhome in just opens the door to a faster downward spiral of this Club. Feels like the French Revolution... time to storm the palace and oust the aristocrats.

Join back up and join the fight, because it's a good fight. WBCCI is worth saving. These folks can't live forever and then we can have our club back!
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:17 PM   #58
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What if Ford licenses name

First off, I believe the original club was intended to help market the Airstream trailer (The Icon) as well as expose the members to a different way of life. Politics has played a part in morphing the original club into a power tool for some and an extended marketing tool for others.

The Icon will be dilluted if the present direction of the WBCCI leadership and Thor's management continues to make poor choices as to the use of the trademark and the membership of the club.

In todays world, intellectual property is highly valued. The challenge for the Thor management is to what degree can they profit from the Airstream name without dilluting its value. Trust me, if Ford or any other big player wanted to license the Airstream name for what is refered to as "free money" (doesnt cost Thor anything, just pure profit), no one at Thor is going to give a hoot about the WBCCI.

In conclusion, the current membership should vote in the leadership that will fullfil the desires of maintaining a pure club (real Airstreams only) and not worry or speculate about what Thor is going to do for making a profit.
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:24 PM   #59
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Thor Question

OK, here is a question either I missed or has not yet been posted; what the heck does Thor have to do with WBCCI? Is the far reaching hand of the Board of Directors so long that it can infiltrate a private organization? If so, to who's benefit? Not mine thats for sure. Yes, I understand there are all sorts of allinaces between Airstream and the club but come on.
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This whole thread gets me mad enough to pay my dues and join again. If for nothing else but to fight from within. All the arguments in the world won't change the fact that the WBCCI is AN Airstream Club. To allow a rebadged motorhome in just opens the door to a faster downward spiral of this Club. Feels like the French Revolution... time to storm the palace and oust the aristocrats.
That's what I am saying!!! What a message to join WBCCI just to fight this stupidity off! I hope you do join again.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:02 PM   #61
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OK, here is a question either I missed or has not yet been posted; what the heck does Thor have to do with WBCCI? Is the far reaching hand of the Board of Directors so long that it can infiltrate a private organization? If so, to who's benefit? Not mine thats for sure. Yes, I understand there are all sorts of allinaces between Airstream and the club but come on.
It was my understanding that th IBT approached Airstream and Thor about the re-badging issue - not the other way around. I think it's important to note that Thor is not the evil-doer in this instance, but rather just the facilitator.

We should not loose site that this entire issue was brought on by our leadership, the members if the IBT, and not Thor.
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Thor just wants to sell MoHos and the AS badge gets them a couple of xtra dollars.
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:23 PM   #63
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Bingo...
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:25 PM   #64
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How much extra dollars will it bring to Thor? If Four Winds dealers are allowed to put the Airstream Edition badge on anything they have on their lots, what fee will the dealer pay for the badging and how much will go into Airstream's coffers and how much will go directly to Thor's bottom line?

If I am Joe Blow and I see a real nice Four Winds motor home and a Airstream Edition badged MOHO on the Four Winds' lot and tell the sales man I like the features, carpet color or whatever on the Four Winds better than that of the Airstream Edition, but I really wanted the Airstream name, why wouldn't he say, "Well if you really want an Airstream Edition so you can join the WBCCI, we can put the badges on that Four Winds branded model for another $500." OR, if you are really serious , we have to charge you $500, but if you buy today I can give you an extra $500 for your trade in.

And a really savy WBCCI officer can go to a Four Winds dealer at the end of the model year and pick out a carry over MOHO from last year and get a super discounted deal and for just a mear $500 more (or whatever the branding cost) get into an unused Airstream Edition motor home and stay in the WBCCI at great savings. Seems he/she would have cheated the club and save a bundle in the process!
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Zero will go to Airstream. As was mentioned many times at the IBT, these SOB MOHOs are not Airstreams.
They would be cheating the club in more ways than one...
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It doesn't help AS at all. It will hurt them in the long run.

But they work for Thor.

Thor benefits, selfish members of the IBT benefit (but will burn in Wallyhell) and WBCCI members suffer.
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It doesn't help AS at all. It will hurt them in the long run.

But they work for Thor.

Thor benefits, selfish members of the IBT benefit (but will burn in Wallyhell) and WBCCI members suffer.
Only if it passes...it's not a done deal until the members vote!

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Only if it passes...it's not a done deal until the members vote!

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Can't see how this would ever pass.....as long as all the facts are out and there is no amendment to the motion to try to confuse the delegates.
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Can't see how this would ever pass.....as long as all the facts are out and there is no amendment to the motion to confuse the delegates.
Here's how the re-badging will pass - Region Presidents and Officers will lean on Unit Presidents and officers to vote their way. The body politik (us) must lean back to kill the re-badging. This is how the name was saved last year. It was a grass roots effort from the bottom up.

However, I see this as being a tougher battle than the name change. I think we have a good chance in my Unit - as most are trailerites with a few B-Vans thrown in. Only problem is I see most having the same opinion as my wife - "who cares -- no big deal, let 'em buy their Class A's , doesn't effect me one way or the other."
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