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05-24-2020, 04:58 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2020 27' Flying Cloud
Erwin
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 16
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GFCI breaker issue - 3 day old flying cloud
Hello folks. I am an AS veteran of 3 full days. I have a question. I did several searches and spent at least two hours reading non applicable stuff so apologies in advance if covered elsewhere.
2020 flying cloud 27 FB
Day 1 everything worked no problem at all. Day 2 stayed at a koa campground in charlotte (first night in SC was 5 star experience, day 2 in koa not so much).
All of a sudden my GFCI plugs don't work. Well all but 1 to be clear. No other issues. 50 amp shoreline. Have surge protector. The bathroom/kitchen/outdoor/ bedroom plugs didn't work.
None of the plugs had a recent on the plug. There is 1 GFI under the bench by the table that does have reset, but it was working, was reset, and appears not to be on same circuit.
In panel box it was not tripped. I flipped breaker off and on to be sure and nothing. I push the test button and does not trip breaker.
Any thoughts. Is it possible my breaker went bad after 1 day? If it was an issue with one of the gfi plugs, the breaker would still engage and pop right? Those breakers ate $50. Stings a bit for a 3 fay old unit that cost more than i am comfortable admitting.
Gonna swap out but anyone have any other thoughts. I have limited electrical knowledge/experience and it seems to be the most complex part of the new rig.
Thanks all!!
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05-24-2020, 05:07 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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I believe there is a blue gfci reset switch on the gfci breaker itself... did you try that?
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05-24-2020, 05:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Williamsburg
, VA
Join Date: Dec 2019
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I don't see a reset on my GFCI outlets. Is there a master reset somewhere?
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05-24-2020, 05:15 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2020 27' Flying Cloud
Erwin
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 16
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There is no button other than test.
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05-24-2020, 05:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 25' International
Slidell
, Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 3,725
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Sorry to hear of your troubles. Your style is similar to mine and does not have a separate GFI reset. I just went out to verify how it works. As you surmised the test button and a ground fault will throw the breaker. I would cycle the switch a couple times. Push it fairly hard to the off position to try to catch the reset latch, then flip it back on. It should snap in with a audible clap as a spring holds the contacts in place. If it doesn't try a couple more times using a tad more pressure when pushing the switch to off. Still doesn't? Then you unfortunately need to replace it.
It's not a difficult job and you don't need special tools. You will have to disconnect shore power, remove the plastic door and then the metal panel front the breakers latch under the bus bar on the top and click in with a spring latch on the bottom.
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05-24-2020, 05:44 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2020 27' Flying Cloud
Erwin
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BayouBiker
Sorry to hear of your troubles. Your style is similar to mine and does not have a separate GFI reset. I just went out to verify how it works. As you surmised the test button and a ground fault will throw the breaker. I would cycle the switch a couple times. Push it fairly hard to the off position to try to catch the reset latch, then flip it back on. It should snap in with a audible clap as a spring holds the contacts in place. If it doesn't try a couple more times using a tad more pressure when pushing the switch to off. Still doesn't? Then you unfortunately need to replace it.
It's not a difficult job and you don't need special tools. You will have to disconnect shore power, remove the plastic door and then the metal panel front the breakers latch under the bus bar on the top and click in with a spring latch on the bottom.
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Thank you. Tried that. Gonna replace breaker. Hopefully can get at big box because i live an hour from an RV service places. Appreciate the quick responses. Will reply if this doesn't correct the issue.
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05-24-2020, 06:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 25' International
Slidell
, Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 3,725
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You may also want to first verify you don't have a short or ground fault preventing the breaker from resetting. Are all the outlets free of devices? The refrig does plug into the same circuit and the outlet is outside behind the access panel.
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05-24-2020, 06:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,493
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If you have been in rain, the outdoor plug might have water inside it, or if anything you have plugged in might be damp inside, that could prevent a reset.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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05-24-2020, 06:31 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2020 27' Flying Cloud
Erwin
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A W Warn
If you have been in rain, the outdoor plug might have water inside it. That could prevent a reset.
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Interesting. We did have rain. Not that much and the cover was closed but i will consider this.
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05-24-2020, 06:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 25' International
Slidell
, Louisiana
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 3,725
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If you do end up replacing it, it is a very common bus bar design so you don't need an Eaton C115. The original design was a Cutler Hammer CL type. So A Murry MP, Siemens Q, GE THQ and many more interchange. Mine is a Siemens, it has a nice LED indicating if there is a ground fault.
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05-24-2020, 09:53 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2017 30' International
Box Elder
, South Dakota
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 78
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Check the breaker/fuse on the inverter...like physically on the inverter unit
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05-25-2020, 09:54 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 20' Flying Cloud
Eau Claire
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 113
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If you only lose some of the outlets to ac then I would check the reset on the rear of the inverter. Happened to me not that long ago.
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05-25-2020, 12:10 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1994 33' Land Yacht
APEX
, NC
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 26
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GFCI reset
Reset the Gfic breaker by turning OFF until it clicks then turn it on.
Don't change out the receptacles
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05-25-2020, 01:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2009
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I've run into this problem before. Try removing the surge protector and connecting directly to the power post. Sometimes even though the display on the protector reads OK, it may not be. If you have the opportunity to try another 50 amp cord, sometimes there is a problem with a very minor cross connection in the cord. Remember it only takes a mismatch of about 5 mA of current (5 milliamps or . 005 A) to trip a GFCI.
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05-25-2020, 01:28 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2014 30' International
Delphi
, Indiana
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 14
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Gfci
Always lots of excellent advice on this forum. I had a similar issue this last winter in south Texas when I very thoroughly washed my AS, I suspect I sprayed water into the vent above the refrigerator. After several hours drying out in the low humidity everything was good again. Sometimes you just get lucky!
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05-25-2020, 03:50 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 28' International CCD
Saint Paul
, Minnesota
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 51
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External outlets are GFI and very sensitive to any moisture no matter what cover is used. Hair dryers or heat guns (careful with this one, I’ve disfigured one outlet already) have combatted successfully fog, heavy dew as well as rain.Eventually enough! Sealed it off completely.q
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05-30-2020, 04:48 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 27' International
Crossville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 9
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three day old GFCI issuee
Had this problem called the factory any had me reset the breaker on the side of the inverter , did that and everything was ok. It was a red button on the side of the inverter , One would never think there was a reset on the inverter but this was the problem. Calling the factory has been a good way to find out these thing ,and they are very good to help you,
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05-31-2020, 06:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 30' Classic
Canfield
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denora
Had this problem called the factory any had me reset the breaker on the side of the inverter , did that and everything was ok. It was a red button on the side of the inverter , One would never think there was a reset on the inverter but this was the problem. Calling the factory has been a good way to find out these thing ,and they are very good to help you,
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I had a similar problem with my inverter. I thought it got wet and shorted out when the sink fell in my 2019 Classic (spilling water on top of the inverter). It dried out and the breaker on the inverter reset. Good to go now!!
Thanks, Denora!
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2019 Airstream Classic 30 Twin
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05-31-2020, 10:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Excella 500
Genoa
, Nevada
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There might be another GFCI in line with the others you haven’t found yet. I knew a house where the gfcis in the garage wouldn’t work, found a gfci in a bathroom on the other end of the house controlled the garage.
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05-31-2020, 12:17 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2014 28' International
Cedar Park
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2019
Posts: 14
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GFCI tripping is a problematic situation. My experience tells me to check all the outlets for proper connection. Correct grounding is not always present on OEM RV Receptacles. Also consider replacing the GFCI Outlet. OEM GFCI Plugs are usually sub par.
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