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07-22-2011, 06:21 AM
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Rivet Master 
1973 27' Overlander
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keep door the same and make a stained-glass transom?
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EDIT: fine, the curvature won't match up very nicely, but it is an option 
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07-22-2011, 06:27 AM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Originally Posted by Wabbiteer
keep door the same and make a stained-glass transom?
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EDIT: fine, the curvature won't match up very nicely, but it is an option |
A giant scare light?
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07-22-2011, 08:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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i was wondering when you were getting to the door issue :-)
i've read a lot of posts about warped doors. watching this thread i'd guess if you extended the door you'd make it stronger than new. one idea was to make a fold-in filler threshold panel that would give the option of climbing over or folding down if needed.
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07-22-2011, 10:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
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Also, aren't all your windows now going to be a little too high for some of the views? Extend them?
For the entryway, since you are so good with metal and ambitious on it, I bet that you extend the door. If I could change the height on anything in the trailer, it would be make the door easier to step in and out of. I've actually already thought about it on mine since I have to do a full rebuild of the door eventually, but if I go any higher on the frame I start reaching the real curve, then I would need a HUGE overhang above for rain. Plus the door within a door would look awkward.
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07-22-2011, 02:10 PM
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Rivet Master Airstream Dealer
Corona
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increasing shell height
The entrance doors can easily be extended, but from the bottom only.
Sometimes, depending on the amount of the extension, the lower hinge may have to be lowered some what.
Andy
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07-22-2011, 04:34 PM
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Well gee buddy.. theres your problem....
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Poor Darkspeed... He was warned about welding near propane while partaking of his pinto bean diet plan... 
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07-22-2011, 05:17 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Poor Darkspeed... He was warned about welding near propane while partaking of his pinto bean diet plan... |
Parked it on the wrong side of town...
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07-22-2011, 05:18 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
The entrance doors can easily be extended, but from the bottom only.
Sometimes, depending on the amount of the extension, the lower hinge may have to be lowered some what.
Andy
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Andy where can I get the aluminum extrusions without making them?
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07-22-2011, 05:35 PM
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Parked it on the wrong side of town...
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Uhh, where IS the wrong side of Wesley Chapel? 
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07-22-2011, 05:36 PM
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How did it turn out?
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It's incomplete, and still languishes in a corner of the shop.
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07-22-2011, 05:39 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
modesto
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I also need to decide how to handle the doorway
Option1 - have a stepover threshold like a sailboat - the easy way out
Option2 - cut the bottom of doorframe and door and splice 12" of material to make the door taller
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Perhaps another thought.
Option3 A metal break and a roller it seams like you could fabricate a brand new door using the radius from your existing door. No spicing.
Or since we have left convention behind here how about.
Option4 A 2-piece bi-opening pop out fold down piece with fold out stairs and the top piece fold up for shade. (na can't be done. Just kidding. don't try it.) 
Dennis
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07-22-2011, 06:24 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Dennis have not dismissed that idea. Kind of like it - ala private jet door. The only concern is it would need to be structural like a step maybe with skid tape on it.
Things like that I have to run through an animation program to see how it looks before I cut
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07-25-2011, 09:05 AM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Just ordered the 1.5" tube for a 12" headroom adjustment... Arrives tomorrow.
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07-25-2011, 07:11 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
The entrance doors can easily be extended, but from the bottom only.
Sometimes, depending on the amount of the extension, the lower hinge may have to be lowered some what.
Andy
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Andy any info on sourcing the aluminum extrusions for extending the door / frame??
Thanks!
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07-25-2011, 08:03 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Well I have been looking for 1.75 x .062 channel to mate the ribs to the stem walls..
Looks Like I may have found a winner... Channel - Fits 1-5/8"
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07-31-2011, 10:37 AM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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I am starting the fab of the stem walls tomorrow. I will build the side walls first, reinstall the shell, and then build the arc end walls.
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08-01-2011, 04:54 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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In spite of the rain progress....
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08-02-2011, 10:37 AM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Welding.....
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08-02-2011, 11:50 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Peoria
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You asked about this possibly impacting aerodynamics. Not sure, but it seems like a higher-profile trailer would be somewhat less stable and get lower mileage since there's more air surface to move through.
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08-02-2011, 11:53 AM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
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Join Date: May 2011
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Well you are probably correct on the gas milage but due to the battery weight my center of gravity is still good.
It's just the rain that's my problem now.
Arggggg
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