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08-23-2014, 06:28 AM
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Everyday is a GIFT !!
2015 30' Classic
Collins
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2012
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The cool factor is no doubt there, as well as the quality. I, like you, would prefer the wardrobe rather than the windows, I'm sure I will be able to adjust.
Nelson
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TAC # MS-12
WBCCI # 5314
AirForums # 66116
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08-23-2014, 10:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Yes, the cooling and cool factors are both present!
We are very happy (can you tell) with our 2015 EB w/ ducted A/C. It was built (on a 25' frame originally ordered in a different configuration) to our specifications at the end of June / first week of July (holiday closure at production facility) and delivered to us by AS Adv NW in Seattle just before the Region 10 WBCCI Rally near Astoria Oregon in Mid July.
We were told that this was the first EB built and sold at retail (likely outside of the show model). The wait (camping on the dealer's lot) for the unit to travel from the factory to Seattle took forever ...with many excuses along the way!
In direct comparison with our previous 2013 EB, this new 2015 has more headroom and less noise from the A/C. I can not comment about specifications on any other models but this is the real deal after 6 weeks of ownership and ~20 days of use - again, not speculation; YMMV. See my other postings for specifics and relative sound levels.
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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09-03-2014, 04:28 PM
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#223
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Greensboro
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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As I sit here in my recliner and the outside temp is 86 degrees F, inside 78, which is exactly what I have it set for, I pick up my iPad with the "Decibel 10th" App, and with an A/C operating, I am reading less than 55 dB. In my 2009 Int 27 FB, the noise with 86 outside would be more in the 73 a 76 dB range, or about 100 times as loud in the old Airstream vs. the new Serenity with ducted A/C.
This may not make sense to some, but an acoustical engineer can explain this in terms of "sound pressure" and other terms of which I have no understanding.
Now I have turned the thermostat down so both units are working, and the reading is still below 60 dB. Note: a difference of 10 dB is equivalent to 10 times as loud, and being a logarithmic scale, 20 dB is 100 times as loud.
My conclusion based on the above, along with my experience, is....... Airstream has produced a real winner with the ducted air. Yeah Airstream!
Ms Tommie Lauer
Greensboro, NC
2015 Serenity 30 RB / 2008 Dodge Cummins 4 X 4
WBCCI #4165 AIR #31871
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Happy trails and Good Luck
Ms Tommie Fantine Lauer, Greensboro, NC
AIR #31871 KQ3H
www.fantinesvoice.com
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09-03-2014, 04:31 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
Montreal
, Quebec
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 211
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You're making it so hard for me to wait for mine. Supposed to be built October 31st
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Montreal, QC
2017 Classic
4 Flexible 100w Solar Panels
3000w Magnum Hybrid Inverter
1000 Amp Hours Lithium Battery
Honda EU3000
Drain Master Sewer Connection
2017 GMC Denali 2500 Duramax
Hensley
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09-03-2014, 04:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Agree with Msmoto ... confirms my earlier numbers posted in this thread.
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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09-03-2014, 05:44 PM
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Everyday is a GIFT !!
2015 30' Classic
Collins
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,017
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Rawn77, how did you get a delivery date of the end of October? I was in hopes we would take delivery mid October at the latest. Either way, I will just as excited .
Nelson
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TAC # MS-12
WBCCI # 5314
AirForums # 66116
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09-03-2014, 08:20 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 30' Classic
Montreal
, Quebec
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 211
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I spoke with my dealer yesterday. He had just got off the phone with airstream and that was their tentative date. The key word being tentative.
I would just like to use it at least once after delivery.
November is sub-freezing weather up here in Montreal.
Sent from my iPad using Airstream Forums
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Ron
Montreal, QC
2017 Classic
4 Flexible 100w Solar Panels
3000w Magnum Hybrid Inverter
1000 Amp Hours Lithium Battery
Honda EU3000
Drain Master Sewer Connection
2017 GMC Denali 2500 Duramax
Hensley
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09-03-2014, 11:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadtech
Another question:When will the 2015's with ducted air start shipping?
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July 14 for our 2015 Eddie Bauer delivery.
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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09-04-2014, 07:05 AM
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Everyday is a GIFT !!
2015 30' Classic
Collins
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 3,017
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I should be ok either way, since I'm less than 100 miles from the Mississippi Gulf Coast. I will check with my dealer and see if he has a delivery date.
Nelson
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09-04-2014, 12:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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T minus 8 days till our trip to the mother ship-
Maybe I'll see your trailer being built.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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09-04-2014, 12:22 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
T minus 8 days till our trip to the mother ship-
Maybe I'll see your trailer being built.
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Right on my day . They said it was rolling out the 12th.
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'16 Ram 2500HD CTD 4x4 Limited w/ Air and Ramboxes
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09-04-2014, 07:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Does that mean completed on the 12th?
It'll already be gone when I get there.
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2013 Classic 30 Limited
2007 Silver Toyota Tundra Crew Max Limited 5.7 iForce
2006 Vivid Black Harley-Davidson Road King Classic
1999 Black Nissan Pathfinder LE
TAC #MS-10
WBCCI #1811, Region 6, Unit 56
Airforums #70955
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09-04-2014, 07:51 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 359
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
Does that mean completed on the 12th?
It'll already be gone when I get there.
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I was told that it would be coming off the line on the 12th.
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09-04-2014, 10:38 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cory_can
I was told that it would be coming off the line on the 12th.
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Have you found their schedules released to sold/buyers of units to be accurate?
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2015 25' Eddie Bauer Int'l FBQ / 2023 Ford Lightning ER
2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
Terminal Aluminitis; 2-people w/ 3+ dogs
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09-04-2014, 10:51 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 359
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Ducted Air
Quote:
Originally Posted by mefly2
Have you found their schedules released to sold/buyers of units to be accurate?
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Not sure. That was the date the dealer arranged with AS HQ when we made the order. We are suppose to be taking delivery at the dealer on the 19th/20th after a bunch of customizations are installed.
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'16 Ram 2500HD CTD 4x4 Limited w/ Air and Ramboxes
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09-05-2014, 10:08 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 359
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Well, according to my dealer my unit is ahead of schedule. You won't be seeing mine
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09-05-2014, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2008
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@cory_can
So, what are all the custom items you are installing?
My interest is in the fact i have always done many modifications, and on my new one, the fabrication and installation of different window treatment in the main living areas…. something similar to but less bulky than the new Classic, is in the works.
I also add shelves, partitions in the various compartments so as to avoid the shuffling of items during towing. And, LED light strips in the closets, ones that use contact switches so they come on automatically when the door is opened.
So, what is your dealer installing?
Thanks
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Ms Tommie Fantine Lauer, Greensboro, NC
AIR #31871 KQ3H
www.fantinesvoice.com
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09-05-2014, 06:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 30' Classic
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 359
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I'm going to wait on interior mods until we've lived with it for awhile...so I can decide what makes sense and what doesn't etc.
The dealer is installing:
- Solar system with (2) 100W panels, 2K watt inverter, (4) AGM cells, transfer switch, monitoring etc
- 4 mode charge converter
- rear view camera system
- (3) bike rear rack
- electric leveler system
- undercoating
- resistors on LED tail lights to work with my Audi
- swapping GYM to Michelins
I've also purchased a TPMS system for the trailer tires (TV already has it)
I believe that's it for now
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'16 Ram 2500HD CTD 4x4 Limited w/ Air and Ramboxes
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09-05-2014, 10:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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Just got caught up on the thread. It sounds like this AC system may be a winner for Airstream.
I am perplexed at that several have shared how they roasted in FL or in the southern summer in their Airstreams with one AC or even two AC units and the bathroom was stifling.
I live in the south, in FL, and have a single unit AC 11K. From experimenting with it I have learned that it is quite adequate for the job. The ADB upgrade is a major improvement on airflow. I am thinking that it must be those pano windows that are radiating so much heat to the coaches that cannot cool properly. I do not have panos- on either end.
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09-06-2014, 01:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 30' International
2009 27' FB International
2007 25' Safari
Currently Looking...
Greensboro
, North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Ducted Air
Pano windows, I agree. My 27 FB had both ends, and while I had even tinted the rear, which is normally clear, I think the heat coming in is quite significant. In fact, this is why I like the rear of my Serenity, as it has the storage in the corners, not windows.
In the bedroom area, when in the usual position in bed one cannot see out of the windows except to maybe look at stars, and this means putting the awning up.... LOL. I have suggested to Airstream they offer a non- pano option on the new Classic just for this reason, more storage without the pano windows over the bed.
One more thought about the single A/C is if one can cool the unit easier with only one or no pano, this makes dry camping much easier with less need for a huge generator to power both A/C units.
Ms Tommie Lauer
Greensboro, NC
2015 Serenity 30 RB / 2008 Dodge Cummins 4 X 4
WBCCI #4165 AIR #31871
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AIR #31871 KQ3H
www.fantinesvoice.com
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