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Old 07-28-2014, 07:15 AM   #155
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Micro pulse monitor does suck - bad
A little off topic, but my '14 came with the Sea Level monitor. Now I understand why the technician commented on having less experience with these units when we were going through a list of questions and minor adjustments with him at our factory service visit.

I wonder if that is because ours was built in May '14 that we might have some of the newer components (but not the ducted air!)
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:51 PM   #156
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A cool thank you goes out to Airstream from South Louisiana! (2) A/C’s ducted and whisper quite. (I know because I have heard them run, don’t care about db’s it is silent for the most part and I like!). I am ready! Trading up from our 2011 25fb International Serenity, I truly believe that the original Penguin Low Profile Heat Pumps were designed with the big motor coaches in mind with ducted multi-units installed and I am thinking that Airstream like the low profile design, so Airstream got it with it’s not functional, non-ducted shroud. However it does work great if you are cooking, but if you like most, we spend most of your time at the very rear or the very front of the Airstream. The non-ducted unit operation as described by the experts at Jackson Center was not to close the main down vent as it cause the unit to malfunction. (almost no air comes out of the front/rear vents) So in reality and normal use all the air goes diving down to the center floor of the cabin and flows back up to the return air. (this does not condition the most of the volume of air) We placed a Dyson fan right below the unit and aimed it in the derection of were we were at the time, the front or the back, this helped a great deal. As well as tinted the most of the windows with limo tint and used the silver bubble insulation in the skylight, fantastic fans, overhead windows and bedroom windows (so we could sleep a little past sunrise). This helped! Also had the magnetic solar shades for the rear window and rear curved windows as recommend by the Airstream specialist. The older Airstreams I have been in do a great job of pushing the air way in the front and way in the rear…. the high profile unit was originally designed for non-ducting with a very functional hi efficient shroud, it did a great job … before the “Penguin”.

Our new 27fb is scheduled for production to start on Oct 1st, ready for release by 8th of Oct. Our local dealer, Foley RV Center in Gulfport MS, was great to work with on the special order, inquired it about and the next day placed it on order. The sales staff was very knowledgeable with all the options and availability.

27fb International Serenity 2015
Salsa UntraLeather
IN 27JWBFB Queen Frt Wall
1000w Inverter - Queen Bed Models
3 Burner w/Convec M/W
Solar Charging System
2nd AC Install-27FB INT
Window Awning PKG - 27FB Ser
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Custom Special Order - Do not mount TV’s and do not Mount block of wood on main cabin wall. (I plan on using a 32” LED for the Main cabin with a swing out arm) I will use the std 28” main cabin tv in the bedroom and the std bedroom tv for e-bay.
I will NOT order the power awning, as I can deploy the std manual awning in just 2 minutes or less, it helps me keep fit and keeps me moving, so I am fine with it.
After Market options
Tint all windows and skylight with 50%
This 2015 style has all curtains in the bedroom, I will remove them and send them to the sewing room and have a metallic solar shield sewed on the back side, with the tinted windows you will not be able to see this from the exterior and will provide a dark cool bedroom, for deep sleeping, so we can wake up ready for the next day of fun! and if the front is shaded or winter we will open the curtains.
TempurPedic 60X80 Queen Cloud Elite mattress with head up mechanism for reading, laptop and watching TV.
I plan on replacing the counter in the bath with a Corian top with a large above counter vessel and large spout, this helps when boondocking, for quick cleanups.
I am looking into placing a piece of wilsonart board across the rear and have cushion made with the same ultra leather to form a rear sectional, ditch the dinette. May have a small table that could be installed in the floor like the Eddie Bauer.
I will also change all the compartments and covers on the exterior to stainless steel.

But most of all… 2 A/C’s and Ducted…. all whisper quite…. In the main cabin will be a 15K and the front will have a 13.5K, they will use the same ducting so when both are running we should have lots of ice cold air distributed across the cabin. I think AS should have installed operational vents, but they do pop off ez so I will make a closure for them on the top side where you cannot see to adjust to our comfort style throughout the cabin.

It's truly an Art to keep cool when camping...
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Nice choice. I also like your after market updates.


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Old 07-29-2014, 06:42 AM   #158
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Congrats on your purchase, it sounds great! We also bought our 2015 25FB Flying Cloud from Foley RV. Great people! We love the quiet of our new ducted air. Our last AS was 2013 International and the air was very loud.
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Old 07-29-2014, 07:12 AM   #159
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A cool thank you goes out to Airstream from South Louisiana! (2) A/C’s ducted and whisper quite. (I know because I have heard them run, don’t care about db’s it is silent for the most part and I like!). I am ready! Trading up from our 2011 25fb International Serenity, I truly believe that the original Penguin Low Profile Heat Pumps were designed with the big motor coaches in mind with ducted multi-units installed and I am thinking that Airstream like the low profile design, so Airstream got it with it’s not functional, non-ducted shroud. However it does work great if you are cooking, but if you like most, we spend most of your time at the very rear or the very front of the Airstream. The non-ducted unit operation as described by the experts at Jackson Center was not to close the main down vent as it cause the unit to malfunction. (almost no air comes out of the front/rear vents) So in reality and normal use all the air goes diving down to the center floor of the cabin and flows back up to the return air. (this does not condition the most of the volume of air) We placed a Dyson fan right below the unit and aimed it in the derection of were we were at the time, the front or the back, this helped a great deal. As well as tinted the most of the windows with limo tint and used the silver bubble insulation in the skylight, fantastic fans, overhead windows and bedroom windows (so we could sleep a little past sunrise). This helped! Also had the magnetic solar shades for the rear window and rear curved windows as recommend by the Airstream specialist. The older Airstreams I have been in do a great job of pushing the air way in the front and way in the rear…. the high profile unit was originally designed for non-ducting with a very functional hi efficient shroud, it did a great job … before the “Penguin”.

Our new 27fb is scheduled for production to start on Oct 1st, ready for release by 8th of Oct. Our local dealer, Foley RV Center in Gulfport MS, was great to work with on the special order, inquired it about and the next day placed it on order. The sales staff was very knowledgeable with all the options and availability.

27fb International Serenity 2015
Salsa UntraLeather
IN 27JWBFB Queen Frt Wall
1000w Inverter - Queen Bed Models
3 Burner w/Convec M/W
Solar Charging System
2nd AC Install-27FB INT
Window Awning PKG - 27FB Ser
Comfort Convenience Pkg-TT
Custom Special Order - Do not mount TV’s and do not Mount block of wood on main cabin wall. (I plan on using a 32” LED for the Main cabin with a swing out arm) I will use the std 28” main cabin tv in the bedroom and the std bedroom tv for e-bay.
I will NOT order the power awning, as I can deploy the std manual awning in just 2 minutes or less, it helps me keep fit and keeps me moving, so I am fine with it.
After Market options
Tint all windows and skylight with 50%
This 2015 style has all curtains in the bedroom, I will remove them and send them to the sewing room and have a metallic solar shield sewed on the back side, with the tinted windows you will not be able to see this from the exterior and will provide a dark cool bedroom, for deep sleeping, so we can wake up ready for the next day of fun! and if the front is shaded or winter we will open the curtains.
TempurPedic 60X80 Queen Cloud Elite mattress with head up mechanism for reading, laptop and watching TV.
I plan on replacing the counter in the bath with a Corian top with a large above counter vessel and large spout, this helps when boondocking, for quick cleanups.
I am looking into placing a piece of wilsonart board across the rear and have cushion made with the same ultra leather to form a rear sectional, ditch the dinette. May have a small table that could be installed in the floor like the Eddie Bauer.
I will also change all the compartments and covers on the exterior to stainless steel.

But most of all… 2 A/C’s and Ducted…. all whisper quite…. In the main cabin will be a 15K and the front will have a 13.5K, they will use the same ducting so when both are running we should have lots of ice cold air distributed across the cabin. I think AS should have installed operational vents, but they do pop off ez so I will make a closure for them on the top side where you cannot see to adjust to our comfort style throughout the cabin.

It's truly an Art to keep cool when camping...

Sounds wonderful! Just curious - I did not know you could order a Tempurpedic bed for the Airstream. Do you mind telling me about what the extra was? I would love having something where the head would raise as well for reading, etc. We have a tempurpedic at home and love it!


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Old 07-29-2014, 07:59 AM   #160
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This is listed as one of the things that I'll do after I take delivery. I've had a mattress store for the last 32 years and I'm a Tempur-pedic elite retailer in Louisiana. So I'll use the standard size queen Tempur-pedic mattress it's great in the 25 FB also the 27. I will use the Tempur-up foundation take it apart and just use the mechanism on the 27 FB


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This is listed as one of the things that I'll do after I take delivery. I've had a mattress store for the last 32 years and I'm a Tempur-pedic elite retailer in Louisiana. So I'll use the standard size queen Tempur-pedic mattress it's great in the 25 FB also the 27. I will use the Tempur-up foundation take it apart and just use the mechanism on the 27 FB


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Old 07-29-2014, 10:46 AM   #162
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I would love to see that too!


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Old 07-29-2014, 10:53 PM   #163
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I would love to hear from others interested in ducted air or DA owners ...isn't that the original topic !!!

Our 2015 was finished the week of July7 and delivered the following Tuesday ... so not speculating here ... actual "in person" experience. Relative sound level readings are just one of the benefits... it is really cool without any "hot spots" as we had in both ends. The previous EB was hot in both ends and very cold right under the AC unit, itself.
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Thanks for the great feedback. We are currently waiting on delivery for our '15 28 FC.

Is anyone with a '15 concerned that there might be issues with the first MY of such a big change, or are you confident that AS has properly migrated the DA from the Land Yacht?
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So far, our 2015 w/ ducted air looks and functions "bug-free". This revision is really only adding hidden ducting; so, I would not expect any major issues. We are confident that AS has done this right!
The only obvious external difference is a slight hump in the front and back roof line as well as the newer style "Frisbee" television antenna - the verdict is not yet in on that, however as we have not really had a chance to watch much TV in remote areas. The new antenna works well in urban camping areas.
Internally - as you would expect- the trim areas for the fantastic fans and skylight are deeper into the ceiling. One question is will their be a filter offered by AS for the intake grills or will we need to fab our own. They seem to already be collecting fuzz.
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:24 AM   #166
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A new business opportunity will be figuring out how to clean inside the length of the "hidden" ducting without taking the ceiling down. Over time, duct work does load up with dust and debris and in damp climates, mold. Legionaire's diseae anyone?
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Good point, Switz, although it should not be too large of a problem with just a 25' ... but we are already seeing fuzz collecting on the inlets. Hopefully, this is just because the unit is new and still has airborne particulate from the factory. I am sure that the flex hose from our vacuum will get in there fairly easily - but it remains to be seen just what kind of ducting is in there. If it is aluminum, it should be relatively easy. But if it is the flex hose like is used in the furnace ducting ...then that is another story.
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I have absolutely no concerns for my 2015 Airstream. Ducted air has been in rv's for a long time. It is only new to Airstream. Our 2005 Gulf Stream which we had for years, had ducted air and we never had any issues. Very satisfied with our new Airstream.
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