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Old 06-02-2005, 09:15 AM   #197
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Progress!

By now about 90% of the inner skin is back in, and riveted in place. Installing the inner window frames and related cleats around the windows proved to be a very lenghty chore. Took all day yesterday to finish, plus a few hours in the evening.
The wiring is done, prepped for fuse box installation. All holes are cut, grommets installed, etc.etc.
What's left for this sage of teh project is installing the window framing around the windows just ahead of the door. Many pieces, with many brackets need to be matched and installed, sort of like an erector set or a puzzle. Plus, all the rivets around the perimeter of the door frame still need to be bucked.
Now that my other Airstream has a new owner, I am doubly motivated to finish this one, getting it ready for mid summer trips.
The next step is prepping the floor for floor covering. This means cutting the sub-floor for a/c vents and refrigerator venting, and leveling a few spots with the belt sander. I am contemplating applying another coat of wood sealer to protect the floor from eventual moisture penetration.
I will be installing a semi floating floor, either strips or parquet (sp?)
Ideally I would have a more natural looking floor than the Pergo was in the other trailer I owned. The Pergo was nice from 6ft, but looked "fake" up close. It did prove to be a very durable and easy to maintain solution, however, seemingly impervious to all the things we subjected it to.
This is where suddenly my wife enters the picture. I don't remember seeing a single curl of hers during the construction phase, but she magically appeared to offer her "advice" on flooring selection, and interior choices.
going on flamed maple hunt again today...HD should be restocked by now.
Stay tuned!
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Old 06-02-2005, 04:49 PM   #198
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So thats what you were doing yesterday

Lookin really great. Another coat of wood sealer sounds great - I was thinking about doing the same thing......

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Old 06-05-2005, 02:53 PM   #199
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New Hitch!

Bought a new hitch system for the 63 this morning. Reese Dual Cam HP straight line hitch. Got it from a guy that went with a Hensley Arrow. This hitch is like new, he used it once or twice. It was an incentive when he bought his trailer, and he sold it to me very reasonably.
It is complete, with shank, ball mount, bars, snap up brackets and the HP sway control. Can't wait to try it.
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Old 06-05-2005, 02:56 PM   #200
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Whats the weight rating on the bars? Often they are 1000 pounds which is not good for our lite trailers.....

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Old 06-05-2005, 03:57 PM   #201
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They are 1000lbs, I'm afraid. When towing my Tradewind, the 750lb bars were very stressed, so I figured the 1000lbbars might be ok for this one. I anticipate similar weights on this dolled up Overlander.
I am willing to buy or trade for lighter bars if necessary. The deal was just to good to pass up.
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Old 06-05-2005, 05:14 PM   #202
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Thats interesting - I have 750 bars on my Tradewind - and they look normal. FWIW I would be concerned with the 1,000 lb bars on the somewhat light frame of the older trailers. I'm thinking about using 500-600 on mine. On the other hand, I know you have beefed up your frame, so perhaps you are ok......

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Old 06-12-2005, 10:37 PM   #203
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It's time to do finish flooring.
My wife and I both like the look, feel and weight of the cork flooring best so far. I just spent some time searching the forums for information, but most of it is vague, or a few years old.
My plan is to use floating cork floor planks, since my sub-floor is a multi piece plywood floor.
Any pros or cons?
Any long term experience with cork in Airstreams?
I would appreciate sources, pricing information, personal experiences etc.
My trailer is still empty, I plan on covering most of the floor with the finish flooring ( cork?) and then build the furnishings to sit on top of it. Should be much easier than cutting in all the edges and corners.
With more input from the forum I can stop obsessing over it, and get to work on it.
( btw. I tried to start a new thread with this question.....no go)
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Old 06-12-2005, 10:57 PM   #204
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Greetings Uwe!

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They are 1000lbs, I'm afraid. When towing my Tradewind, the 750lb bars were very stressed, so I figured the 1000lbbars might be ok for this one. I anticipate similar weights on this dolled up Overlander.
I am willing to buy or trade for lighter bars if necessary. The deal was just to good to pass up.
I would be a bit cautious with the heavy bars on your Overlander. When I purchased mine in '95, the Draw-Tite hitch shop that setup my Reese Strait-Line hitch insisted upon 1,000 pound weight distribution bars -- the first comment from the Reese specialist who inspected the setup at my first International Rally was that I was way over-hitched -- switched to 800 pound bars (750 pound would have been better for my stiffly sprung K2500 Suburban, but weren't available at that time). The 800 pound weight distribution bars work beautifully when I tow with the Cadillac and its very soft boulevard-ride suspension. As it sits ready for an extended vacation, the gross weight of my Overlander is typically 6,100 pounds with 775 pounds on the hitch. Switching to the properly rated weight distribution bars made a tremendous difference in the towing comfort of the combination -- and the Dual Cam System functionality improved as well.

Good luck with your Overlander!

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Old 06-13-2005, 01:22 AM   #205
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Hello Kevin,
I will take your advice and pay close attention to the way this hitch performs.
I am willing to buy the 750lb bars if that is what's required to make things work better.
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I will take your advice and pay close attention to the way this hitch performs.
I am willing to buy the 750lb bars if that is what's required to make things work better.
How can you tell what weight bars you have? Mine came with the trailer.

Also, does that apply to my trailer as well. Since I tow with a 2500HD would I need to make sure I had 750lb bars? How would I know I need them?
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How can you tell what weight bars you have? Mine came with the trailer.

Also, does that apply to my trailer as well. Since I tow with a 2500HD would I need to make sure I had 750lb bars? How would I know I need them?
The key that the Reese representative taught me was that the heavier (more stiffly sprung) the tow vehicle, the closer the match needs to be between the rating of weight distribution bars and actual tongue weight -- this is particulary an issue when the Dual Cam system is utilized. My understanding is that the problem is more common with Vintage coaches that are towed with either 3/4-ton or one-ton tow vehicles -- particularly when existing weight distribution bars (that were included with the coach's purchase) are utilized -- I know that the weight distribution bars that were included with my Minuet are perfect with the Cadillac (the bars were original to the coach and its first tow vehicle, a 1978 Ford LTD), but MUCH too heavy for the Suburban (I utilize an old 1980s set of light weight 350 pound weight distribution bars with that combination). What I have learned with my setup is that if there isn't a small amount of deflection visbile in the weight distribution bars, the bars are likely too large for the combination.

I can't remember which thread had the posting (I believe from Inland-RV Andy) with the measurements for the various ratings of Reese weight distribution bars, but the measurements were posted some time back.

Good luck with your investigation!

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"Uwe",
I noticed a "Black Water Tank" in one of your photos that is curved to fit into the corner of your trailer, is that something that can be purchased, was it stock? Also the waste piping in the photos looks like it's all going to be below the belly pan - is that true or am I reading the picture wrong?
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Old 06-13-2005, 11:05 PM   #209
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"Uwe",
I noticed a "Black Water Tank" in one of your photos that is curved to fit into the corner of your trailer, is that something that can be purchased, was it stock? Also the waste piping in the photos looks like it's all going to be below the belly pan - is that true or am I reading the picture wrong?
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Hello Mark,

The black water tank is indeed a custom item. I made a cardboard template and a drawing of the tank, rolled everything up and sent it to the manufacturer. They made me a perfect black tank.
The grey tank and the fresh water tank are withing the frame rails, under the floor. I had those made by the same company.
The dump valve plumbing is quite compact in this installation, the Overlander frame allows for luxurious layouts....it's generous in size.
The dump valve plumbing is similar to a 2005 International model, using the same Valterra dual dump valve assembly.
I stole most of the ideas for the tank/plumbing system from my 1971 Tradewind, and from numerous visits to a new Airstream lot.
I then adapted the newer layouts to my 1963 Overlander frame.
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So is the waste piping shown in post #142 "below the belly" or is it between the floor and belly (sorry, just not getting it). And have you given out the name of the company that built your tanks - I couldn't find it.
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