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07-03-2014, 09:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Build your own rock guard...you can do it!
My daughter & I both have Avions. I have an Airstream as well, so I know this is useful for all of us with this problem. Our rock guards were brittle, ugly big black things. I had a nice aluminum 3-piece rock guard on my former Airstream, so I knew what I was missing! I also know they cost about $1250, and don't fit an Avion anyhow. After reading several types of DYI rock guard instructions, I decided to document my creation of 2 identical rock guards for my daughter & myself. The tools I used were:
Band saw
Electric Miter Box
Drill
Rivet Gun
Buck Rivet Gun
Clecos
Cleco pliers
Supplies:
Many Rivets
Angle Aluminum 1" x 1/16"
Sheet Aluminum or Diamond Plate 1/16"
4 stainless steel angle brackets
42.5" x 30.37" Lexan (I used clear...you can get smoke if preferred)
2 pieces 19" x 30.37" Lexan
These are the instructions for a 1982 & 1984 Avion...an Airstream would be very similar, but the dimensions would vary a bit. Please be sure to measure all of your dimensions yourself & don't depend only on mine!
The first thing I did was make the center rectangular piece. The dimensions were 42 1/2" x 30 1/2"....so make a frame of the angle aluminum with mitered edges to that size. Use the SS angle brackets for the corners & secure them with rivets. I used all buck rivets, but you can probably get away with pop rivets. I used the bracket that came off of my old rock guard for the hinge. I also used the arms off the old rock guard. You can find them at Vintage Trailer Supply if you don't have them. Install the Lexan into the frame. Use aluminum washers on the Lexan side to keep the rivets secure. I used clecos when I drilled everything. They are found at Vintage Trailer Supply & are VERY necessary for this project. They hold everything together & square while you're working on drilling your rivet holes. GET THEM & A PLIERS Vintage Trailer Supply - parts and supplies for vintage travel trailers and campers!
Now comes the fun part. The wing windows.... They are composed of four pieces of angle aluminum. The straight side is 30 1/2" long. The two pieces that will become the rounded corners of the window cover are 31 1/2" each. The piece that joins the two 31 1/2" pieces is about 6" long. There are also two pieces of flat aluminum that is about 1/16" thick (rather stout if that seems too flimsy) to hold the curve of your aluminum. I used my old rock guard as a guide to the curve. If you don't have a rock guard, you'll have to use your trailer to mold your curve to it. You must cut relief cuts in your 31 1/2" pieces on both sides in order for it to make the curves. I clamped the straight piece to my center window guard to keep everything square. I used clecos after I drilled the holes to hold the curves. Then I cut a piece of diamond plate in the shape of the curve of the outside of the window. This I clecoed to the outside curve of the curved piece to hold the outside curve. I'm going to post a bunch of pictures to let you absorb what I'm trying to get across:
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I'm starting another page so I can add more pictures (I'm at my limit)
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Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-03-2014, 09:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-04-2014, 08:36 AM
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65th Anniversary CLIPPER
1996 36' Clipper Bus
Tub City
, British Columbia
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Nice Job Becky. I have some projects maybe you can do for me? You have taken the time to do something you can be proud of.
Dave
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07-04-2014, 09:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Do you want to use clear Lexan? The darker stuff would also double as an awning. Good job on the rock guard. This is something I have not had time to deal with. I have also thought of making a lower quarter panel protector. You might try that next.
Perry
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07-04-2014, 09:13 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari
St. Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,670
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Becky, you are so cool! Thanks for sharing.
I have a rock guard already but the lexan or whatever is warped from the heat/sun. Is it difficult to obtain and replace that material and install it into the current frame?
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07-04-2014, 09:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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Build your own rock guard...you can do it!
I intentionally used clear Lexan because my windows are already tinted. One can use whatever color Lexan he/she chooses. They do make smoke color, but it is more expensive and needs to be special ordered. I got my Lexan at a local glass shop. Not sure how difficult it would be to install in a current frame.
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Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-04-2014, 09:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Don't need a lower rock guard, Perry. I'll leave that up to you!
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Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-04-2014, 01:03 PM
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Racine
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Very nice work and great job of documentation. Thanks so much for sharing!
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07-04-2014, 01:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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How easy was it to flex the Lexan? I too wonder how to do it in my existing frames with the larger curve. I have several star cracks from the guards doing their job....it's a matter of time before I need to replace the Lexan.
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07-04-2014, 03:40 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
How easy was it to flex the Lexan? I too wonder how to do it in my existing frames with the larger curve. I have several star cracks from the guards doing their job....it's a matter of time before I need to replace the Lexan.
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It wasn't hard to flex at all. I used 1/8" thick Lexan. I talked with the man I ordered it from & thought I'd use plexiglass. He advised me that plexiglass would crack when drilled & also if hit with a rock. When I picked up the Lexan, he demonstrated to me, with a hammer, how the plexiglass shatters and the Lexan can take a huge beating & not crack (he WAILED ON IT). After drilling the Lexan a bagillion times, I'm glad I didn't make the mistake of getting plexiglass!
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Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-04-2014, 04:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beckybillrae
It wasn't hard to flex at all. I used 1/8" thick Lexan. I talked with the man I ordered it from & thought I'd use plexiglass. He advised me that plexiglass would crack when drilled & also if hit with a rock. When I picked up the Lexan, he demonstrated to me, with a hammer, how the plexiglass shatters and the Lexan can take a huge beating & not crack (he WAILED ON IT). After drilling the Lexan a bagillion times, I'm glad I didn't make the mistake of getting plexiglass!
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Do you think it would flex enough to slide into the frames on a late model rock guard?
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07-04-2014, 04:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
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So the Original equipment must be plexi...as it star cracks pretty darned easy.
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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07-04-2014, 05:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
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I think it's plexiglass in the original ones. They're not drilled anywhere. I think Lexan could slide in just fine
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Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-04-2014, 06:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
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Thanks, great thread!
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"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
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07-04-2014, 06:52 PM
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Site Team
1963 26' Overlander
Hollis
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Nice work!
What's an electric miter box? I assume you mean a saw?
Your daughter is lucky to have you!
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07-04-2014, 10:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
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Build your own rock guard...you can do it!
Mine is a makita compound miter box. It has a plug & a motor as opposed to a hand miter box that is run by your own power :-). That would take a while! Maybe it's a Midwest thing that we call them miter boxes.... But yes, Shelly, it's a saw!
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Becky
1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-04-2014, 10:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
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Benton
, Arkansas
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Nice fab work!! Great results!
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07-05-2014, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2000 25' Safari
Davidson County
, NC Highlands County, FL
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Nice work!
Miter box is a term, still commonly used, but left over from the olden days when carpenters actually did build a three sided wooden boxes used with a hand saw to cut mitered joints.
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2014 Silverado LTZ 1500 Crew Cab 5.3L maximum trailering package
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07-05-2014, 03:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Do you think the frame would be strong enough to work with canvas? I was thinking of awning material. Another thing that might work is FRP board. There are lots of different grades and qualities of Lexan out there. Some of it will crack badly and the stuff does get brittle over time. Let us know how it holds up long term. We make bullets out of the stuff at work and we have problems with Lexan cracking. DO NOT USE alcohol based window cleaner on it, including the stuff at the gas station.
I really like the Becky's frame design.
Perry
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07-05-2014, 04:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
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Perry. Can you share how to grade and advise best type for guards. I did some reading and some of it can be bent in a break to 90 degrees with a half inch radius without heat. Some can be bought with anti scratch and UV coating. Please enlighten me.
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