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01-11-2019, 05:04 PM
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Rivet Master 
2007 31' Classic
Gulf Breeze
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Hot water
We have to run our kitchen hot water faucet way too long to finally get water for washing dishes so I am researching under sink instant water heaters. Must be 110v.
Has anyone performed this mod and is there a specific brand that has worked?
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01-11-2019, 06:56 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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The amp draw for an electric tankless water heater would likely exceed your trailers electrical system limits. (22 amps)
A small tanked heater (2 gallon) would probably work but would draw (12 amps)
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01-11-2019, 07:45 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"

2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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We just save the 'hot' water until it gets HOT in a pitcher. Then use it to rinse the dishes we just washed with the real hot water.🤓👍
Bob
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01-11-2019, 08:43 PM
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Rivet Master 
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Longmont
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
We just save the 'hot' water until it gets HOT in a pitcher. Then use it to rinse the dishes we just washed with the real hot water.[emoji851][emoji106]
Bob
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We catch the water in a bucket and use it to flush the toilet in the middle of the night when we have the pump off.
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01-12-2019, 03:41 AM
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Rivet Master 
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
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If you run that cold/warm water into a tea kettle, it can be heated up on the stove for washing/rinsing dishes later . . . or washing your face etc. before bedtime. Even if you don't drink the tank water, it should be serviceable for those uses if the tank has been maintained well.
Peter
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01-12-2019, 07:20 AM
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Rivet Master 
2007 31' Classic
Gulf Breeze
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 500
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Thanks for the replies. We do fill a pan from the bathroom sink which is instantaneous due to the location of the water heater, then take that pan to the kitchen for washing/rinsing.
I still think an instant electric heater would work. If they do draw 22 amps we would manage our other appliances the same as now. No microwave if the AC is running, etc.
We have a Magnum hybrid 3000 watt inverter that is supposed to “supplement” the shore power during spikes. I have not tested it in a real world scenario but that may take care of excessive draw from the heater.
It won’t run all the time...just as need.
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01-12-2019, 08:02 AM
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Trailer Sold, Waving
2019 26' Flying Cloud
Stettler
, Alberta
Join Date: Dec 2016
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I use my Cuisinart electric kettle for dishes, or stovetop coffee pot when boondocking. So much more convenient than making trailer mods.
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01-13-2019, 02:16 AM
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Rivet Master 
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Acheron2010
I use my Cuisinart electric kettle for dishes, or stovetop coffee pot when boondocking. So much more convenient than making trailer mods.
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Convenient, much less expensive, portable for outside chores and less likely to clog up with calcium deposits. Grungy interior? Use CLR or similar brand.
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01-13-2019, 07:57 AM
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Rivet Master 
2007 31' Classic
Gulf Breeze
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 500
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Thanks for the replies. I have ordered an Excel ventless propane water heater. Foley RV in Gulfport, MS will install it next week. Should be an easy installation due to the furnace and stove top gas lines already in place.
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01-13-2019, 08:05 AM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trumpetguy
Thanks for the replies. I have ordered an Excel ventless propane water heater. Foley RV in Gulfport, MS will install it next week. Should be an easy installation due to the furnace and stove top gas lines already in place.
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Are you mounting it under the sink? If you are onlyreplacing your existing HW tank an instantaneous heater will do nothing to eliminate the wait for hot water at the tap. It will also reduce the amount of fresh water you carry by 6 gallons.
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01-13-2019, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master 
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
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The six gallons in a conventional water heater is not easily used as fresh water. In my case, it only added 42 pounds of weight to the AS. The only way you can get to that water is to use the tank drain, and spill it all over the place. Pointless weight IMHO.
If I need extra water, I put a case of bottled water under the front bed. Inaccessible water in a water heater is basically useless. When the water pump sucks the last of the water it can get out of the fresh water tank, there is no pressure to push water out of the water heater. This “6 gallons of extra water” idea makes little sense in the grand scheme of things because it’s difficult if not impossible. to utilize.
I installed a tankless water heater to get lots of hot water to make DW happily. The six gallons of water in it was never a consideration other than getting some weight off the AS forward of the axles on the streetside.
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01-13-2019, 10:09 AM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,838
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
The six gallons in a conventional water heater is not easily used as fresh water. In my case, it only added 42 pounds of weight to the AS. The only way you can get to that water is to use the tank drain, and spill it all over the place. Pointless weight IMHO. ...
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I access the extra six gallons of hot water in the tank when I open a HW tap.  You are right - in an emergency you could drain the HW tank, but I don't foresee that happening very often.
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01-13-2019, 03:47 PM
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Rivet Master 
2007 31' Classic
Gulf Breeze
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 500
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adventure.AS
Are you mounting it under the sink? If you are onlyreplacing your existing HW tank an instantaneous heater will do nothing to eliminate the wait for hot water at the tap. It will also reduce the amount of fresh water you carry by 6 gallons.
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It will be mounted under the kitchen sink and will supplement the 6 gallon tank which works great for the bath but not for the kitchen. https://www.campingworld.com/excel-v...SABEgLTnPD_BwE
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01-13-2019, 04:17 PM
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4 Rivet Member 
2017 27' International
Lake Havasu City
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 310
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Guess I'm an outlier here. The only thing I use hot water from the water heater for is showering. When I do that, I run it into a quart jug until it's hot, then use that later for washing dishes. Of course by then it's lukewarm, but that doesn't matter. The way I do dishes, hot water doesn't seem necessary.
The secret is wiping every dish or pot clean with a paper towel before food can dry on it. Once I've done that, it's easy to get them the rest of the way clean with very small amounts of water and detergent. A quart will last me a day or more... and then it's time to shower again.
(All this is done with propane, by the way. I rarely plug in.)
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