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06-18-2021, 02:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2009
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West Glacier KOA WARNING
First of all this is a beautiful huge park in a great location with lots of amenities. Hundreds of sites from tents to the ultra expensive patio sites. It is also very expensive, but we thought we knew that. We prepaid for two nights and when we arrived the snuck in a $21 "mandatory resort fee." I asked about where this info was mentioned on the website and they replied it is in a (sneaky my words) line under the advisory "other applicable fees may apply." I feel this is disingenuous at best. First of all, they were not up front about it even on our estimated receipt for the deposit. Second, the "other applicable fees may apply" is also misleading because the "may" doesn't make sense because it is mandatory.
Unfortunately this is becoming very common at resort hotels and most of them too don't provide the info up front.
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06-18-2021, 02:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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I have come across this before, and these are places where I don’t go back.
Maggie
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06-18-2021, 03:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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Another reason to avoid KOA's but they seem to control the market, so you can't.
As long as RV traffic is high, supply and demand will rule.
Try to remember that when everyone was hunkered down at home, the KOA still had to pay their bills.
BTW, when I visited Glacier, we stayed in Kalispel. Not a resort, but affordable and a short drive to the park.
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06-18-2021, 04:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 27' Flying Cloud
Wenatchee
, Washington
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lily&Me
I have come across this before, and these are places where I don’t go back.
Maggie
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Same here.
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06-18-2021, 06:00 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Little falls
, New York
Join Date: Jul 2019
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Or use the pool, the basketball courts and what not, have fun and happily pay an extra 20 bucks.
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06-18-2021, 06:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 25' Globetrotter
Santa Rosa
, California
Join Date: Feb 2017
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06-18-2021, 06:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' Flying Cloud
Airstream - Other
Airstream - Other
North Central Texas
, USA
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Limited supply and high demand will rule this year. I imagine many of the not so mechanically inclined 'new' RVers will be moving on to other options within a year or so. At least that is my hope. What a ride this has all been!
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06-18-2021, 07:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2023 27' Globetrotter
Winder
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 517
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They should disclose all of their fees up front. That much I think we can all agree with. But.... this is arguably one of the nicest KOA’s in the county. If I could even get in the park, and am already paying a premium for what this park has to offer, then the extra $20 is really a non issue.
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06-18-2021, 08:26 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2021 28' International
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 372
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This isn't worthy of a "warning". From your comments it's a great park and you didn't read the fine print. They did nothing wrong.
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06-18-2021, 08:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Many of these resort fees are the local government getting into their...and your nickers and has nothing to do with the entity you are staying at.
Look closely at your next hotel bill.
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06-19-2021, 04:33 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 20' Flying Cloud
Westerly
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
Many of these resort fees are the local government getting into their...and your nickers and has nothing to do with the entity you are staying at.
Look closely at your next hotel bill.
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I was wondering if it's the same as the "room tax" in many states at hotels. They don't tell you about that when you ask about room rates either, kind of like a store not telling you the price of an item with sales tax added in when you ask how much something is.
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06-19-2021, 04:43 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,089
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gibson3798
This isn't worthy of a "warning". From your comments it's a great park and you didn't read the fine print. They did nothing wrong.
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This may or may not be true.
I have called ahead about a site, been given the daily rate, then when I check in had a “resort fee” added to the total.
I have asked what this fee is for and been told “it’s just something we charge”, which is a non-answer, in my opinion.
I believe campgrounds, like other entities, should be upfront about extra fees, also consider waiving them for people who are not going to use resort-style amenities.
And if it were a perfect world, this would be so.
Some places will give a wrist band or electronic code that allows access to the pool, rec room, etc., allowing non-users to opt out.
“Reservation fees” charged even for walk-ups are a similar annoyance, but it’s all part of the price we pay for the privilege of travel.
Sometimes you want a reservation, sometimes that comes with extra fees.
Maggie
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06-19-2021, 05:30 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
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I think it is just something we have to deal with more and more. I have sure seen a lot of that on hotel bills. I live in a metropolitan area that has added huge local entertainment taxes to concert tickets and hotels. So much so that some artists refuse to perform here. Having been to that KOA several times over the years and having noticed how much the use of Glacier Park has increased I do not expect any breaks in that area now for sure. I bet Columbia Falls has its hook into that KOA. It is pretty usual in the hotel business to advertise the prices before taxes and then add some whoppers. Sorta seems to fall into acceptable business tactics now.
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06-19-2021, 05:48 AM
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Trailer Sold, Waving
2019 26' Flying Cloud
Stettler
, Alberta
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,032
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When I first started full-timing, I used KOAs because of their consistency and ease of getting reservations, and they seem to be located in all my major travel routes. As a newbie, I could focus on learning the trailer, and not worry about where I was camping. For families and new campers, they offer a good value.
Now that I am older and wiser...
BTW, is the East side of Glacier open? Was closed all last year due to the virus.
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06-19-2021, 06:02 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,089
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East Glacier is open, and a good part of the GTSR…
https://www.nps.gov/glac/index.htm
Maggie
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06-19-2021, 06:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 27' Globetrotter
Winder
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 517
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If a particular area is considered a ‘Resort’ then all of the venues in that area can charge a ‘resort fee’. I’m sure part of that goes to the local government but I was told that part goes to the resort as well.
We have stayed near Big Sky, Montana several times. It is designated as a resort area. If you look at your receipts after paying for anything there, including renting a home/condo, skiing, eating at a restaurant, buying merchandise, booking a guide for fishing, horseback riding, etc, etc.... then you will see a ‘resort fee’ added. I’m sure this is the case with other areas in other parts of the country as well. However, Montana is a state that does not have a state sales tax.
So this is how their govt. collects revenue from these areas.
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06-19-2021, 09:22 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
La Pine
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 139
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On resort fees -
They charge them because people pay them -
http://killresortfees.com/in-the-news
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06-19-2021, 10:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
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I for one, do not like "surprises" especially at the prices some of these places are charging. Like a "resort" in HI; extra "resort fee" / per day in this case, is taking advantage of the customer, but they do it. In KOA Glacier, they have a nice place, but should be clear in their advertising the $20. that being said, I would pay, and let it go...it is a nice park and you are lucky to get in this time of year, IMHO...there are other parks, by the way, back up the road...that do not charge this fee....yet.
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06-19-2021, 10:09 AM
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Mike from Canmore
2018 27' Flying Cloud
Calgary
, Alberta
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 234
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Information like this should be put on "campgroundreviews.com" as a formal review. It's important people know . . .
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06-19-2021, 10:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 30' Classic
Anna Maria
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 1,645
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