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01-16-2019, 04:29 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Edisto Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'd like first to try the method least likely to make it any worse. Seems to me that would be the vacuum method; is that correct? What's the worst mistake I could make doing that? Also, twin bed is in that area so removing inside skin is an option I'll save to consider later. If vacuum doesn't work I think the suction cup tool from HF will be my second try. Any particular advice on the vacuum method, particularly since it is on a curved area?
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01-16-2019, 04:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 30' International
Pennsylvania
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,243
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I would think the vacuum method challenge would be to keep the seal on the curved area. If that doesn't work, I'd contact some PDR folk.
I've had paintless dent removal (PDR)l done on vehicles, but not aluminum. Many Ford dealerships have access to local aluminum repair people as many new Fords have aluminum bodies. Car dealerships can also hook you up with local PDR guys. If it were mine, I'd have a PDR guy look at it.
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01-16-2019, 06:22 AM
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#23
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Rivet Master
1977 31' Sovereign
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Sunset Valley
, Texas
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 744
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edistobob
Thanks for the suggestions. I'd like first to try the method least likely to make it any worse. Seems to me that would be the vacuum method; is that correct? What's the worst mistake I could make doing that? Also, twin bed is in that area so removing inside skin is an option I'll save to consider later. If vacuum doesn't work I think the suction cup tool from HF will be my second try. Any particular advice on the vacuum method, particularly since it is on a curved area?
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You could try using luaun or even bendable plywood to match the curve. If using luaun, perhaps make the sheet longer width wise to facilitate bending but keep it just wider than the tube you are using height wise. Make sense?
Of course you’ll need to grow a third hand if you don’t already have one.
Ian
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01-16-2019, 07:58 AM
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#24
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Rivet Master
2004 28' Classic
Monument
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,566
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2X the PDR. It is the lowest risk as it will certainly cause no increase in the damage. It also has the highest probability of giving you a satisfactory results. If you start messing around with the dent, you may make it worse and harder to repair with PDR, IMHO.
My DW's car has an aluminum hood. Her car was damaged in a big hail storm 2 years ago. The PDR method was used on the hood and the results were perfect.
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01-16-2019, 08:24 AM
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#25
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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The inner tube method will work on larger dents. Since you can only approach one atmosphere with that method it will be more effective over a larger area.
If you attempt the suction cup method I would suggest 2 cups one on either side of the crease since you will not get a seal across the crease. If you can seal 2 cups I would not pull on them as much as rotate them outward at the crease.
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01-16-2019, 09:02 AM
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#26
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Bozeman
, Montana
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 253
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I used a toilet plunger to get a similar one out. It does not help the crease, but the dent is much less noticeable. And it was cheap. Little harm in trying.
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01-16-2019, 12:01 PM
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#27
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Rivet Master
2013 31' Classic
billings
, Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 3,577
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Replace the panel.
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01-16-2019, 03:36 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 23' Flying Cloud
Corpus Christi
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 68
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Dent
My hubby had a dent and crease when backing it into storage. A car repair man came to the house and put some glue stuff on them and popped them out. Looks good.
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01-16-2019, 04:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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I vote for the paintless dent repair.
The guy will come to you, he has the tools and uses a light with parallel bars to show smooth.
I'd guess he'd start at the taillight to get inside, use a little heat, some massaging, and after that it's magic.
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01-16-2019, 05:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,185
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You guys are probably right with the first try being PDR, however removing the tail light does not get you behind or between the skins, there us a bucket behind that seals the area.
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01-16-2019, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 30' Classic
Hinckley
, Ohio
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 907
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I had a dent just like yours. All it took was a small 1.5 suction cup to pop it out. I use one of those clear vinyl ones that you use to hang stuff from windows.
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01-16-2019, 06:01 PM
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The SilverSleeper
2001 28' Excella
2005 25' Classic
1988 23' Excella
Daphne
, Alabama
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 210
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I had a smaller dent and I put a Woodstock yellow decal on it and you don’t see the dent anymore. Had a friend who had a larger dent and we put a large round Red reflector on it, it was on the side so we put another reflecctor on the other side, they looked like they belonged there. You might want to try a larger decal of some type to see if works. Who knows it might work and it will only cost a couple of bucks.$ just something to try
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01-16-2019, 07:26 PM
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#33
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Edisto Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 225
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Thanks for the additional suggestions. I'm talking to a PDR guy on Thursday-sent him some photos today. I've used him in the past for my cars. And I really like Bigventure's comments about the suction cup. Would be really nice if that could work. In any event y'all have given me some really good things to try.
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01-16-2019, 09:30 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 26' Flying Cloud
Murrieta
, California
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 71
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Ouch! Sorry I don't have any suggestions but just curious as to how that happened?
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01-17-2019, 03:43 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Edisto Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Night owls
Ouch! Sorry I don't have any suggestions but just curious as to how that happened?
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Momentary inattention on my part!
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01-17-2019, 07:49 AM
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#36
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3 Rivet Member
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Edisto Island
, South Carolina
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 225
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Just an update: talked to PDR tech and he is confident that he can get the main indentation out but probably not the crease. I told him I'd be plenty happy with that. So, in a couple of weeks we'll arrange to give that a shot. I'll post a photo of the "after". I'm sure that anything the tech can do will look better than what I'd likely do. BTW, he will be using pull techniques based upon his prior experiences working on Airstreams.
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01-23-2019, 11:10 AM
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#37
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1 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Severna Park
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 15
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dent repair
If you are a "handy" guy, you might visit Eastwood products. They have a number of dent removal tools for the DIY'fers. Having performed auto restorations, I find Eastwood has a very good selection.
Here's a kit from Amazon....
https://www.amazon.com/Paintless-Dent-Repair-Tools-Kit/dp/B07FQDRFXJ/ref=asc_df_B07FQDRFXJ/?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid={creative}&hvpos={adpositio n}&hvnetw=o&hvrand={random}&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt= e&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl={devicemodel}&hvlocint=&hvlocph y=&hvtargid=pla-4584207578537375&psc=1
KenA
'08 VJ-24
MD
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01-23-2019, 12:35 PM
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#38
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Rivet Master
1972 23' Safari
Middletown
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 546
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I gad a similar dent
I had a big dent a lot worse on my back corner of my 72 airstream which the PO got quoted $300 to fix but I spent about $11 on a suction cup dent puller and fixed her myself. See link post 9.
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f420...ri-156604.html
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01-23-2019, 01:27 PM
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#39
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1 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
SLC
, Utah
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 6
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metal message
Look for a metal message tech. They are mobile most of the time and I have used. They will have a set of tools that allow them to apply light tapping outside and holding a plate inside while not dinging the metal surface. They change the plate often to assist in forming the metal shape back to the original They did a very good job on a ding that was a V and it came out perfect. I was amazed. Good luck.
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01-24-2019, 06:21 AM
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#40
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Rivet Master
2016 30' Classic
Hinckley
, Ohio
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 907
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The problem with a lot of the suggestions, is dent removal guys need access to the back side. They can reach into fenders and doors. In addition aluminum is not steel. It has different flexibility.
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