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07-07-2018, 12:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 Avenue Coach
Corpus Christi
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 1,719
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thewarden
I now have a Progressive EMS-PT30X. Made in the USA and very highly rated as one of the best. There is a big difference between an electrical management system (EMS) and a simple surge protector.
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^^^^^+1 on this model! If you have 50 amp service, that model will cost a little more and the ending number will 50X.
Shop around and you'll save some bucks. I bought my 30amp model from the Progressive Industries Amazon site below. Their price of $267.94 with free shipping is pretty good.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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07-07-2018, 01:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
Litchfield Park
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 549
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Looks like I'd need the Progressive Industries EMS-PT50X since I have two ACs and a 50 amp hookup.
I see the EMS-PT50X is on the camping world website. Anyone know if they tend to carry them in the stores?
Steve
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2019 Globetrotter 27 FB
2018 Chevy Silverado 2500 4WD LT
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07-07-2018, 01:18 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
Litchfield Park
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 549
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Called the closest store and they are mail order only, not carried in the stores. Argh.
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2019 Globetrotter 27 FB
2018 Chevy Silverado 2500 4WD LT
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07-07-2018, 01:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejones
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Our dealer did not think a surge protector was really needed.
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Probably not the first time a dealer has given lousy advice IMO.
That bad advice calls into question his competency, and trustworthiness for future decisions and warranty repairs, in my opinion. Food for thought -- FWIW.
Glad you are getting a new unit. Amazon could send this overnight to your next stop:
https://www.amazon.com/Progressive-I.../dp/B01N9MOY7B
Good luck!
Peter
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07-07-2018, 01:45 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,969
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check Amazon
We have the 30 amp progressive and purchased there
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07-07-2018, 02:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Piggy Bank
check Amazon
We have the 30 amp progressive and purchased there
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See link in Post #24.
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07-07-2018, 03:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
Litchfield Park
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 549
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Overnight by Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
Amazon could send this overnight to your next stop
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Hi Peter,
Our next stop is another Ohio State Park. How would I go about doing that?
Thanks,
Steve
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2019 Globetrotter 27 FB
2018 Chevy Silverado 2500 4WD LT
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07-07-2018, 03:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1987 32' Excella
Nepean
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,414
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When I had the Xantrex Freedom 3012 converter/charger/inverter iinstalled, I was told by the vendor that my warranty would be considered void if I didn't use a surge protector. It's like insurance - you only need it when you NEED it.
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AIR 12148
1987 Excella 32-foot
1999 Dodge Ram 2500HD Diesel
WBCCI 8080
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07-07-2018, 04:21 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Globetrotter
Apollo Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,401
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Stayed at an Army Corp of Engineers campground near Mammoth Cave this week and our Camcorder 30A Power Defender tripped on both the 30A and 50A plugs within minutes of being connected. The park ranger said “those things don’t work and you should just remove it.” We did not accept that answer and asked to have maintenance check the post or we would not stay. Maintenance found the post wiring and plugins were all badly burnt, cheerfully replaced everything, and thanked us for making them aware of the problem. My Power Defender never tripped again during the three days we stayed there.
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146 nights 31,000 miles (first 10 months!)
Sold: 2018 GT27Q, 74 nights 12,777 miles
Sold: 2017 FC25FB, 316 nights 40,150 miles
Sold: 2013 Casita SD17 89 nights 16,200 miles
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07-07-2018, 04:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 27' International
Sherwood Park
, Alberta
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,031
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markdoane
TV - about $150
Microwave - about $100
Whats a stereo?
We're not full timers. Leave the good stuff at home.
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Not sure I could replace the TVs and microwave that come with the Airstream for $250. I would love to shop where you shop.
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07-07-2018, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' International
Jim Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 2,310
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Make sure you get a lock when you get it. They are expensive and so at least want to make them somewhat difficult to rip off. . Also make sure you get the 30 AMP adapter to go on the end.
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07-07-2018, 05:17 PM
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Registered User
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Fairfield
, California
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 905
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejones
As stated in my question our dealer did not think we needed one. Perhaps he did not sell them... Also, the expense of it and having yet another thing to have to store, carry, and set up.
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My dealer, who carries and installs EMS's, asks me nicely each time I am in, "When do you want me to install one?"
They are like buying insurance, you don't regularly need it but one of the first questions asked when it is needed is, "Was the payment made?"
It's like gambling, you don't always get the big strike.
Matti
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07-08-2018, 04:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejones
Hi Peter,
Our next stop is another Ohio State Park. How would I go about doing that?
Thanks,
Steve
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I would call that location and ask if they are set up to receive packages like this. You might have to choose another location further along on your route, in order to make the process work, like a full-hookup campground where you are planning to stop. Obviously you don't want to create another problem with a missed delivery.
Good luck,
Peter
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07-08-2018, 05:01 AM
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2017 25' International
Niagara-on-the-Lake
, ON Canada
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,837
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejones
Our next stop is another Ohio State Park. How would I go about doing that?
Thanks,
Steve
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Amazon offers several delivery options such as lockers in some cities. In Canada they will deliver to most post offices.
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07-08-2018, 05:47 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Even with the $$$$, it's worth it.👍
“Its better to have what you don't need when you need it, than not to have it when you don’t.” or “you may think you don’t need it but when you do….you’ll have it.”
RLC
I guess this the latest from Progressive. 30 & 50a
Check #5 in the description👍
In our area we use more at home for 'brown out' protection, boon docking...not so much. 🤗
Bob
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07-08-2018, 07:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Globetrotter
Litchfield Park
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 549
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Locking up the EMS/protector
Quote:
Originally Posted by Daquenzer
Make sure you get a lock when you get it.
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So I saw a lock on the Camping World website. Looks like it goes around the connection between your power cable and the EMS/Surge protector.
What's to prevent someone from just taking your power cable along with the protector?
Thanks,
Steve
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2019 Globetrotter 27 FB
2018 Chevy Silverado 2500 4WD LT
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07-08-2018, 08:15 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,656
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejones
So I saw a lock on the Camping World website. Looks like it goes around the connection between your power cable and the EMS/Surge protector.
What's to prevent someone from just taking your power cable along with the protector?
Thanks,
Steve
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At some point, you have to stop worrying.
The better EMS's have a metal ring around the power cord. I bought a cable lock that fits in the ring and takes a couple turns around the power pedestal. Yes. if a determined thief carries bolt cutters he could take it, but it stops the "I need one of those" thief.
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07-08-2018, 08:17 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Or get a hardwired version that's harder to steal and impossible to forget.
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07-08-2018, 08:55 AM
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Rivet Master
1987 32' Excella
Nepean
, Ontario
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,414
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatleys
Or get a hardwired version that's harder to steal and impossible to forget.
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The only problem I have with the hardwired surge protector is that in the event of a major power surge, the surge protector itself may fry. I'd rather it fry OUTSIDE my rig than inside where it may cause a fire. Yes, I know the probability is low, but so is winning a major lottery - I don't, but there are some people who do.
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AIR 12148
1987 Excella 32-foot
1999 Dodge Ram 2500HD Diesel
WBCCI 8080
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07-08-2018, 09:50 AM
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Box Elder (formerly Long Island, NY)
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Join Date: May 2013
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Yes. Think of a surge protector like a seatbelt. By the time you know you need one, it will be too late.
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