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04-28-2018, 07:34 PM
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#241
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 638
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It made me glad I had painted the subfloor perimeter with truck bed liner. The water just beaded up instead of soaking into the plywood. Marine plywood, but plywood, nonetheless.
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05-06-2018, 08:09 PM
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#242
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 638
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State shaped patch
I got the tv antennae holes covered up last Saturday. I had the good folks at Gieske Custom Metal Fabricators here in KC make a Missouri-shaped patch that I buck riveted on. The patch was a little thick, but I was able to bend it to fit the curve of the trailer and I actually like the way it stands out a bit from the shell. they did an excellent job of cutting the Missouri River in the northwest corner and the Mississippi River all along the east side of the state. I really like the guys at Gieske. They have the templates for all 50 states if anyone is interested in ordering from them. Mine cost $75.
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05-07-2018, 06:27 PM
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#243
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,322
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Gee that looks neat. I like the fact it is thicker and thus "stands proud" of the surface. And it is buck riveted to boot.
I simply cut a round patch for my antenna hole and used Olympic rivets. Hey, it's more imaginative than a square patch, which happens to look like the state of Colorado.
David
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05-07-2018, 06:42 PM
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#244
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,322
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Gee that looks neat. I like the fact it is thicker and thus "stands proud" of the surface. And it is buck riveted to boot.
I simply cut a round patch for my antenna hole and used Olympic rivets. Hey, it's more imaginative than a square patch, which happens to look like the state of Colorado.
David
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WBCCI #8607 VAC Region 11
KnowledgeBase trailer renovation threads: 69 Globetrotter, 76 Sovereign, 75 Overlander, 66 Trade Wind Such fun !
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05-07-2018, 08:11 PM
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#245
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 638
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warring natures
Thanks Dave. You might have noticed the asymmetrical riveting job, with only three rivets across the bottom. This was a case of anal-retentiveness at war with superstition. The fourth rivet would have made thirteen total rivets. Superstition won out.
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05-08-2018, 06:51 PM
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#246
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,322
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I gave up on trying to bring myself good luck. Thirteen rivets wouldn't bother. If I didn't have bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. No chance I would ever win a lottery.
David
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05-14-2018, 08:22 PM
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#247
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 638
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Coleman Mach 8 arrives
Got this 13,500 btu Coleman Mach 8 today. Slid off Fed Ex truck's lift right into my pickup truck bed.
Now the fun begins. The eye bolt in the beam above and chain host I used to pull the shell will be used to get the a/c unit above the Tradewind and set it into place.
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05-15-2018, 07:12 PM
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#248
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,322
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I don't know, Mach 8 is a very fast airspeed. Why do the marketing folks come up with these silly names.
Glad to hear you will use a hoist to lift the AC. I did mine by hand and it was really too heavy for one person. But I got it mounted without injury.
I hope it works good for you.
David
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05-16-2018, 12:02 PM
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#249
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Slats
I like the low profile of the mach 8 and I hear that it is very quiet. I hope your installation goes smoothly.
Dan
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05-17-2018, 08:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 638
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Thanks, Dan. I plan to follow the Greatley's installation instructions here:
https://thegreatleys.com/journal/201...ac-accessories
By the way, I've been using the Curve for a few weeks now to see if it will work satisfactorily for when I get the Tradewind back together and on the road. I find it to be a perfectly acceptable potty, especially for the money. So far no pump failure.
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05-24-2018, 03:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slats
Thanks, Dan. I plan to follow the Greatley's installation instructions here:
https://thegreatleys.com/journal/201...ac-accessories
By the way, I've been using the Curve for a few weeks now to see if it will work satisfactorily for when I get the Tradewind back together and on the road. I find it to be a perfectly acceptable potty, especially for the money. So far no pump failure.
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Slats
My Curve is about 5 years old. No pump failure yet although the batteries loosen up periodically. Glad that you like your Curve.
Dan
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05-24-2018, 07:38 PM
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#252
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 638
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Coleman Mach 8 installed
Well, sort of, with some superb assistance from my brother Gary, pictured below. The unit is now setting on the roof, awaiting this Saturday's bolt-down and hook up. Installed a condensate pump on the unit prior to lifting it up in place. Plan to run the drain tube down the curbside wall just aft of the door, but also considering routing it down the refrigerator vent. Pros and cons?
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05-25-2018, 05:34 PM
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#253
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,322
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Why not the fridge vent? There is some heat behind the fridge, but nothing a decent plastic tube couldn't take. I'd stay away from the boiler side. I'd want to drip the condensate on the ground where I wasn't stepping in it and blaming the beagle.
Nice your brother helped with the heavy lifting.
David
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05-26-2018, 09:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Looking good. My condensate drain goes down the street side wall behind the fridge between the skins. The fridge has a drain a few inches away, so I guess that's the designated puddle area.
Either side would work. I'd pick whichever route is most direct, avoiding making a belly in the tube for clogs to form in.
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05-26-2018, 10:00 PM
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#255
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Slats
Do you really need a condensate pump? Isn’t gravity good enough?
Dan
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05-28-2018, 08:46 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 638
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Newton would have thought so, but it never crossed my mind. Now that I think about it, some fabrication would have been required to run a drain tube from the bottom of the condensation collection box into the interior of the Tradewind. As things stood, that box was already set up for a pump to be mounted in it. So, being a man of little imagination and even less moral fiber, I just went with the flow.
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05-29-2018, 05:01 PM
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#257
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slats
Newton would have thought so, but it never crossed my mind. Now that I think about it, some fabrication would have been required to run a drain tube from the bottom of the condensation collection box into the interior of the Tradewind. As things stood, that box was already set up for a pump to be mounted in it. So, being a man of little imagination and even less moral fiber, I just went with the flow.
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The Penguin AC uses gravity and cups. I like the Coleman pump system a little better, since it moves the condensate with a little force whenever the compressor kicks on, which seems less likely to form a clog in the tube, and doesn't require double-gasket shenanigans. And if you're running the AC, it's not like the power draw of that little pump is anything you'd even notice.
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05-29-2018, 06:11 PM
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#258
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatleys
The Penguin AC uses gravity and cups. I like the Coleman pump system a little better, since it moves the condensate with a little force whenever the compressor kicks on, which seems less likely to form a clog in the tube, and doesn't require double-gasket shenanigans. And if you're running the AC, it's not like the power draw of that little pump is anything you'd even notice.
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However, gravity hasn't failed.....yet. I've seen home condensate pumps fail. Not pretty.
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05-29-2018, 06:22 PM
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#259
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
However, gravity hasn't failed.....yet. I've seen home condensate pumps fail. Not pretty.
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That's exactly my point, though. A gravity system can fail. If there's no force behind it, only a slow drip through a tube, a clog can form more easily. How many Dometic penguin "my AC is dripping" threads are there on this forum? I recall the usual advise is to thread a wire in there and dislodge the clog.
I have no data on the comparative failure rates. The condensate pump just seems like a more robust solution to me. Personal preference.
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05-29-2018, 06:23 PM
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#260
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreatleys
That's exactly my point, though. A gravity system can fail. If there's no force behind it, only a slow drip through a tube, a clog can form more easily. How many Dometic penguin "my AC is dripping" threads are there on this forum? I recall the usual advise is to thread a wire in there and dislodge the clog.
I have no data on the comparative failure rates. The condensate pump just seems like a more robust solution to me. Personal preference.
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I hear ya. Maintenance, awareness, and mor maintenance. If ya dont like that, you got a wrong hobby and lifestyle.
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