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06-19-2016, 05:16 AM
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'15 Flying Loud 20' Bambi
2014 16' Sport
2015 20' Flying Cloud
2021 25' Globetrotter
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Before I head out on each trip and once a week while out before hitting the road I mix two cups of Calgon and a couple of gallons of HOT water and dump in the sinks and then the same in the stool. Calgon is a water softener. It will coat the tank and seems to keep stuff from sticking to it VERY well. Nothing bad in it, it is just like soft water when you dump.
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06-19-2016, 06:52 AM
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2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airstream12557
I stay at a permanent spot all winter and leave my sewer hose connected, but I leave the gray and black valves closed. You DO NOT want to leave the black valve open all the time. Bad things WILL happen! See my earlier post on this thread on how I dump.
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A very big ditto on this issue! Leaving the black tank valve open while camping will result in what is called "Black Hills Syndrome". This dreaded condition can result in having to replace the black tank.
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06-19-2016, 07:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
2015 23' International
2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
, Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2012
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In our 2015 23D, we have the small 18 gallon black tank just like the 19, 20, & 23FB. We also have the small 21 gallon gray tank like the 19 & 20 models. We always use the built in tank flusher system.
If the tank is not full, I turn on the flusher system to add volume to the tank and get the percentage close to 90% full and open the valve. When the flow is slow, I close the valve (flush water still running) and nearly refill the tank and flush again. If items of interest come past the view "window", I flush again. When the all clear message is visually conveyed, I close the black valve and open the gray tank valve. When it is empty, I close the drain valve and open the black valve and get another clean water flush of the hose. I turn off the water and then close the black tank valve.
BTW. Use a back flow preventer at the trailer connection water inlet to prevent contamination of the hose even with a dedicated flush hose.
We then add three gallons of water with our TankTecks product that helps keep the tank clean during the sloshing when going down the road. I also put that product with three gallons of water into the gray tank.
In the Classic with much larger tanks, after dumping we put in five gallons plus the tankTech but use the same dumping procedure.
Do not park and open the black dump valve. The solids will not flow away like in the house and there will become a real issue inside the tank if the solids accumulate.
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06-19-2016, 07:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
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You are the first to mention Tanktechs. Any reason you settled on that product?
Quote:
Originally Posted by switz
In our 2015 23D, we have the small 18 gallon black tank just like the 19, 20, & 23FB. We also have the small 21 gallon gray tank like the 19 & 20 models. We always use the built in tank flusher system.
If the tank is not full, I turn on the flusher system to add volume to the tank and get the percentage close to 90% full and open the valve. When the flow is slow, I close the valve (flush water still running) and nearly refill the tank and flush again. If items of interest come past the view "window", I flush again. When the all clear message is visually conveyed, I close the black valve and open the gray tank valve. When it is empty, I close the drain valve and open the black valve and get another clean water flush of the hose. I turn off the water and then close the black tank valve.
BTW. Use a back flow preventer at the trailer connection water inlet to prevent contamination of the hose even with a dedicated flush hose.
We then add three gallons of water with our TankTecks product that helps keep the tank clean during the sloshing when going down the road. I also put that product with three gallons of water into the gray tank.
In the Classic with much larger tanks, after dumping we put in five gallons plus the tankTech but use the same dumping procedure.
Do not park and open the black dump valve. The solids will not flow away like in the house and there will become a real issue inside the tank if the solids accumulate.
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06-19-2016, 10:54 AM
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#25
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1 Rivet Member
2013 25' International
Corolla
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 16
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It's best to keep your black tank valve closed untill that tank is 3/4 full and then dump to the hookup.
Run the flush with dump valve closed untill. 1/2 to 3/4 full and dump again. Don't forget to add some water and chemical to that freshly cleaned tank.
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06-20-2016, 01:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 572
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Is there a trick to making sure that the clear Rhino 45 degree swivel elbows don't leak?
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06-20-2016, 01:20 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 12,111
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Tighten the locking collar?
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06-20-2016, 01:47 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
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We also have a 2014 FC and the plastic vacuum breaker also leaked on us. Have not been able to get to a dealer to have it replaced. I would suggest confirming you have the new brass vacuum breaker as part of the black water back-flush system on your 2015, and you should be good to go.
Peter
Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusjk
Is it best to use the OEM connection or go with something like a Rhino Blaster?
Also, how often should you do the flush?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannonball
Our factory black tank flush leaked on our 2014 Sport. I thought it was a stupid device, so did not rush to get it repaired. I did eventually get it fixed (stupid cracked vacuum breaker), and now wish I had it repaired on Day One. I always fill the black tank prior to dumping, even if I have to just run in some water with the foot pedal. Dump, black tank flush on for 10-15 minutes, easy. We also have the clear elbow (wife hates it, thinks it is juvenile, maybe because I named it "The Turd Tunnel") and the water is usually flowing clear within the first couple of minutes. Easy.
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06-20-2016, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2024 23' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 502
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Replace the gasket, or make sure the gasket is there?
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06-21-2016, 05:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OTRA15
We also have a 2014 FC and the plastic vacuum breaker also leaked on us. Have not been able to get to a dealer to have it replaced. I would suggest confirming you have the new brass vacuum breaker as part of the black water back-flush system on your 2015, and you should be good to go.
Peter
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Good feedback. Will check. Thanks.
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06-23-2016, 04:46 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 572
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2015 FC 23D has brass!
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06-24-2016, 10:45 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusjk
2015 FC 23D has brass!
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Excellent news, thanks for the feedback.
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09-07-2020, 03:58 PM
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#33
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3 Rivet Member
2020 25' Flying Cloud
lake Wales
, Florida
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 104
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This is a old thread, but the topic fits. We are newbies and today I emptied my black tank. It was about half full, but has sat for 6 weeks. Getting snarky. After draining black , and grey, I hooked up the hose to the flush inlet. It seemed like a lot of back pressure. Also, could not detect any additional flow.
Is there a check valve or something that I need to open?
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09-07-2020, 05:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2008 27' Safari FB SE
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Are you sure you are hooked up to the flushing port and not the city water inlet? My SIL got those backward once — had a shiny $65K water fountain after awhile...
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