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Old 06-08-2007, 06:34 AM   #15
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Good question. I would venture a guess that "pike" might just be a shortened version of the word "turnpike".
turnpike, road paid for partly or wholly by fees collected from travelers at tollgates. It derives its name from the hinged bar that prevented passage through such a gate until the toll was paid. See also road.
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Old 06-08-2007, 06:40 AM   #16
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Ah, by why then, do we park in a driveway and drive on a parkway?
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:06 AM   #18
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She said it was a junction for a toll road - a toll plaza
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:14 AM   #19
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She said it was a junction for a toll road - a toll plaza
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Technically you were both correct but just not entirely correct.

She said toll plaza and you said a road. When you put the two answers together, you get a TURNPIKE!
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A pike is la long pole and was used as a weapon way back when in Merry old England. Like a spear.
It was layed across a road (which was private) and you had to pay to use the road. When paid it was turned aside and you were allowed to pass.
Therefore a turnpike is a toll road.

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Old 06-08-2007, 10:57 AM   #21
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another way to think of it...a "turnpike" (the original device) was kind of like a modern day turn-style. (the "style" part of that word, I would imagine, probably comes from the carpentry term...like the "styles" and "rails" of a door (?) just guessing)

the roads that employed these devices were called "turnpike roads"...eventually, the "roads" was dropped, and hence the word "turnpike" was co-opted to describe the road itself.

I do know of a couple of roads in my area that are commonly referred to as "turnpikes" that aren't actually toll roads. One of them was a toll road at one time...(its nearly 400 years old); the other, I don't know if it ever was. might have been. That would be an interesting question for a local historian...
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Moonstruck,
Think “Motorway” with tollbooths every 50KM.

Peculiar to Eastern USA.

Western USA has Freeways….no tolls.

Alaska has Highways (3 of them).
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I do know of a couple of roads in my area that are commonly referred to as "turnpikes" that aren't actually toll roads. One of them was a toll road at one time...(its nearly 400 years old); the other, I don't know if it ever was. might have been. That would be an interesting question for a local historian...
Which roads are those?
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Additionally, if you refer specifically to the Pennsylvania Turnpike, the toll is typically outrageously high and holes in the roadway are treacherously deep.
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After about 3 hours on I-476 last week, I wholeheartedly agree. When we finally got to the toll gate, I was hoping they would slip me a ten dollar bill and apologize. On the way back, we took a detour through Lancaster via Rt. 30. Compared to I-476, the driving was actually enjoyable.
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Which roads are those?
"newburyport turnpike"....(route 1 between topsfield and NBPT.)

"PlumIsland Turnpike".
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