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Old 01-20-2017, 05:40 AM   #43
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was the power converter still on when you used the kill o watt meter?
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Old 01-20-2017, 06:13 AM   #44
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I have converted my honda 2000i to propane. Knowing that this does reduce output, will your product still work? 2 AC 25' flying cloud. Thanks for joining the forum.

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Old 01-20-2017, 06:20 AM   #45
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Old 01-20-2017, 06:24 AM   #46
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I have converted my honda 2000i to propane. Knowing that this does reduce output, will your product still work? 2 AC 25' flying cloud. Thanks for joining the forum.

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Thank you for the kind welcome. Glad to be here.

If I understand what you wrote correctly, if you have 2 A/Cs and only 1 Honda EU2000i, then you won't be able to run both at the same time even with EasyStart installed on each A/C. This is because the steady-state running amps for 2 A/Cs will exceed 2000W. As discussed above, typical rooftops draw around 10-12A, so 2 A/Cs running that somehow were able to start will be drawing well in excess of the Honda's 16.7A overload limit (2000W).

For a single A/C on the Honda running on propane, all of our customers who have installed EasyStart have met with great success.
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:46 AM   #47
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I self installed my unit using a diagram provided by Micro air. Other than getting on the roof it was easy.


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Old 01-20-2017, 07:49 AM   #48
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was the power converter still on when you used the kill o watt meter?
Yes, the converter was on. I think the fridge and water heater were off. A more realistic test would be to have those on as both draw slight amount of power for their ignition system even when on propane. They would normally be on when camping. My trailer has the Dometic Penguin II 15,000 BTU air conditioner.

I did do the test again a few months ago on a hot day but didn't write any notes. I recall the power demand kept drifting upward after startup. Somehow up 1,900 watts keeps coming to mind but my memory isn't perfect. I also don't remember what else was on. The trailer was plugged into my house wall socket on a 20 amp socket. Our power is always steady between 118 and 122 volts, even under load.

This is a very interesting product. A 2000 watt generator is light and compact. If it can power the AC reliably under real world camping scenarios it sounds perfect.
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Looking back at my old notes, both the fridge and water heater draw 0.2 amps each when on propane. Not much at all.
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Note that MicroAir was testing with the Honda 2000i. Some of the other supermarket brand generators may not have the same start power as the Honda; it may be in the size of the engine or the amount of copper in the generator or other differences although they are listed at 2000 watt. Just to caution someone going out to buy that $499 other brand. (Seen it happen, a camp mate bought 2 other brand 2000 watt, paired they wouldn't fire their air conditioner.)
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I'm going to get this microair for our AC. Only question now is DIY, or get it installed. I'd like to hear from someone that has it installed though. My wife doesn't care so much about me running and taking care of one or two generators (I really do!) once I told her it might reduce the cycling noise of the AC, she was all over it. We won't even run the heat pump when hooked up to shore power. Too loud..
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Microair will give yo good instructions for a DIY. Go for it.


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Also looking to do this. I assume it totally voids any warranty from the AC manufacturer?

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Also looking to do this. I assume it totally voids any warranty from the AC manufacturer?
Roadhoop - Yours is a good question which has been asked a few times before, the answer to which is still up for debate. We at Micro-Air have an extensive OEM relationship as a strategic supplier with both Dometic and Coleman/Airxcel. Dometic uses a specialized versions of EasyStart in their marine division, along with thousands of our marine controls, but they do not use EasyStart in their RV division. Coleman/Airxcel once built in EasyStart into a 240V/50Hz model that they sold exclusively to a trailer OEM in Australia, but they later lost that contract so that business died off. I actually did pose your question to the president of the RV products division of Airxcel/Coleman, who knows me well. He didn't say "no", but said he would "get back to me". That was in September. I inquired with him a couple more times since, and he responded with the same answer. As of today, there is still no official word back from them.

Installing EasyStart correctly adds no risk of damage to your A/C. In fact, it will better protect the compressor since EasyStart has all kinds of fault checks that it does continuously even after the startup is complete.

So, bottom line, if you ever need to claim a warranty repair or replacement from your rooftop's manufacturer and they reject it because you had EasyStart installed, certainly let me know. If the failure has nothing to do with EasyStart, I'll gladly go to bat for you with the either manufacturer since they both know Micro-Air. I won't let them try and hide from the truth without at least a fight!
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I'm interested too but would like to hear from someone who has a Dometic Penguin II 15 k AC. I don't even own a generator but am looking. Much prefer the lighter weight Honda or Yamaha 2000's.
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2000W Generator and EasyStart seems great!

Looks like installation seems straight forward after viewing the Youtube video's and reading several RV reviews about installation! Seems that the combination of EasyStart with a 2000W generator will work for 1500 AC with great advantages; lower noise at AC start, less strain on AC unit, less strain on the generator, and can!

As for which 2000W generator for those who are still looking, I am including some info I posted earlier. I am very happy with my Champion 2000W from Amazon and find it very comparable to Honda and Yamaha.
You can find service centers for Champion all over as with Honda and Yamaha, but not likely you will have issues with any of them.
Generator Mfg.ModelPowerWeightNoiseCostHondaEU2000i1600-2000w47lbs53-59dbs,$999.00; YamahaEF2000i1600-2000w44lbs51.5dbs$989.00; Champion73536i 20001700-2000w48lbs53dbs$442.36;Briggs & StratonP22001700-2200w55lbs59dbs$632.78
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