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Old 12-07-2009, 06:41 PM   #1
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Stott Overlander 1965- PROJECT

Hi,
We just became members after purchasing (OK, just before purchasing but in anticipation of) our first airstream. It is a 1965 in very rough condition but it was only $650. The frame seems solid, it tows straight and easy, the skin isn't bad. Now the bad news: VERMIN, BUGS, ROT, inside needs to be gutted, windows need repairing, small 3 inch tear in top roof panel (on middle side just rear of door), steps need to be repaired and welded, ...
Most of you got the rundown in another category post but I thought I'd add pictures and continue to update this thread with progress reports.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:00 PM   #2
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first day of demolision

After 7 hours of work (which I have to admit I can't take much credit for, my hubby did most! The bugs, mouse skeleton, vermin droppings, etc. really grossed me out. We made progress. Saved as much as we could for templates but I doubt we can use it for anything else. Floor is surprisingly good for the condition of the rest. Got all out except the bathroom and the heater by the end of the night. Take a look at what the screwdriver is pointing to in the first pic! Second picture is Russ uncovering the only "clean" spot of flooring under original? tiles!
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:19 PM   #3
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Keep up the enthusiasm and don't let a bump in the restoration road get you down. I've been getting the itch to do a restoration, but since we already have our Sovereign, I think I'm going to do a WWII Jeep.

Good luck and keep the pics coming; it gives the rest of us motivation.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:25 PM   #4
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Congratulations on your Airstream...looks like you are well on your way to your home away from home. We had a SOB once that was so invested with mice that I ran around with a shop vac sucking them up. Glad you don't have that problem. It's amazing how fast the deconstruction can go...good luck!

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Old 12-09-2009, 03:07 PM   #5
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Getting started- looks a little better

OK, so we gave it a bath and it is almost gutted. Now it is starting to look like a camper I could stay in albeit a little bare. We also started to remove the window trim and lower panels. Many of you mentioned that it would continue to reek if we didn't get out the mouse soiled insulation so we are planning on replacing that too. Floor needs to be replaced.
A couple of questions:
Best wood for the floor? Do we need marine grade plywood?
Any suggestions on how to strip that awful dark blue paint that was slapped everywhere? It peels off in a lot of areas but some is stuck on well in others.
Thank you for the advice.
Jenn and Russ
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:32 PM   #6
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Floor and Paint

Jenn and Russ-

Great start! We used Exterior grade plywood for our floor, with the understanding that it is the same glue as marine, but doesn't have as many imperfections filled. It's quite a bit less in price!

I have heard that paint thinner will remove paint without hurting the zolatone underneath. Haven't tried it though.

You might want to consider reflectix insulation when you redo it. Plenty of threads on that. One piece of advice from someone who is currently on cabinets -- run a couple of extra wires in the walls -- you'll need them before you know it!

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Old 12-09-2009, 07:35 PM   #7
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Marine or exterior good; pressure treated not so good. Might want to look at Ambie64 thread on installation of Prodex looks like good stuff, but will need deep pockets. See insulation for less.com

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Old 12-14-2009, 06:57 AM   #8
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1st week of restoration- 46hrs

Quick update,
One week and 46 hours of work later, we are making progress. The interior bottom surround is off, some of the floor has been removed, a few pounds of very smelly foul wood, insulation, turds, bugs, wasp nests (at least a dozen), ant homes, small unidentified bugs, one bird (alive and healthy- released), and I think we are getting to the clean stuff!!!
Taking up some of the floor, we are encouraged to see a solid frame. Ordered por15. Need to finish removing the floor, probably get some welding done by the steps, wire brush everything, paint the frame.... seems like the list goes on for ever. But, we are enjoying working on it and glad to find no unexpected or nasty surprises so far.
Any feedback from those who have reinforced their frames to prevent rear end separation?
While we were taking off the interior lower panels we found a funny cartoon that I assume was drawn on by the original factory worker as we don't think any repairs have ever been done to this unit. I have included a picture. Anyone else ever find anything like this? Just drawn in pencil. Gave us a chuckle.
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Quick update,
One week and 46 hours of work later, we are making progress. The interior bottom surround is off, some of the floor has been removed, a few pounds of very smelly foul wood, insulation, turds, bugs, wasp nests (at least a dozen), ant homes, small unidentified bugs, one bird (alive and healthy- released), and I think we are getting to the clean stuff!!!
Taking up some of the floor, we are encouraged to see a solid frame. Ordered por15. Need to finish removing the floor, probably get some welding done by the steps, wire brush everything, paint the frame.... seems like the list goes on for ever. But, we are enjoying working on it and glad to find no unexpected or nasty surprises so far.
Any feedback from those who have reinforced their frames to prevent rear end separation?
While we were taking off the interior lower panels we found a funny cartoon that I assume was drawn on by the original factory worker as we don't think any repairs have ever been done to this unit. I have included a picture. Anyone else ever find anything like this? Just drawn in pencil. Gave us a chuckle.
Jenn and Russ
Reinforcing the frame, does not prevent rear end separation.

Reinforcing the shell hold downs at the rear, does prevent rear end separation.

When your nearing that point, make a post, and I will be glad to share with you, how that is vry easily done.

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Old 12-14-2009, 12:24 PM   #10
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Rear end separation fix

Thank you Andy!
I spoke to you on the phone this past week but I must have messed up something in my notes as what I explained to my hubby wasn't correct. Please give me the run down anytime you have a minute. We have almost 2 weeks off to work on our airstream (starting next week) and need to get supplies ahead of time, so we should be at that point very soon.
I appreciate the info!
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Andy...would you mind sharing this information with others on the forum as well. I know I would benefit from this information as well. Thanks for helping so many of us needy Airstreamers!

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Andy...would you mind sharing this information with others on the forum as well. I know I would benefit from this information as well. Thanks for helping so many of us needy Airstreamers!

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JSTOTT, Roadrunner and others.

The following is a quick sketch I made of "how to" take care of the rear end separation, permanently.

Of course, the floor channel must be OK. The floor must be OK. The (2) steel plates are quarter moon shaped and should be 1/4 or 3/8 inch steel.

The hold down bolts should be 3/8 inch, with washers and lock washers.

The (2) steel right angled parts should be 1/4 or 3/8 steel plates about 2 inches long, and they are welded to the outside of the frame and should be located so the the banana wrap, when reinstalled, will hide them.

Several bolts should be installed in the rear hold down plate, and the steel plate. 2 nolts can be used in the angle bracket.

This fix, takes a little more time, but when done, the separation problem will not return, since you have greatly increase the shell to frame attachment strength. Also, when the rear quarter panels are fastened back onto the floor channel, use 3/16 inch pop rivets, about every 2 inches apart.

As you can see, the elephant ear fix, now becomes a joke.

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Old 12-15-2009, 12:04 PM   #13
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Thanks Andy from Inland RV!

Andy,
I REALLY appreciate the drawing. Makes perfect sense. I will post pictures as soon as we get that part done!
Thank you again,
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How do you plan to make a template for the floor since it appears the rear bath was rotted out? Also what was involved in removing the the bath/toilet unit.
My 65 Amb. is probably pretty close to yours.I will be following your work in the next week or so .Thanks for the pics.Steve
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