TV Question

[J. Morgan]

Originally Posted by out of sight

My front end goes up 1/4" when I hitch up the trailer. Maybe I should buy a weight distribution hitch to bring it down 1/8".

You should probably do exactly what you want to do without overtly seeking the approval of others.

That's what I do. [emoji4]

It's funny, by the time I post something to the forum, I've already done it. [emoji4]

And dude, my trailer is awesome.

[Profxd]

Originally Posted by gypsydad

Well, what are you towing and with what TV? Best to have the weight returned to the front...but then there are those who live life on the edge!

8,000 lbs of Jayco 28RBS. No Nissan says 50% max FALR so no they say it’s not best to have all weight returned to the front. Just like the front there are consequences to removing too much off the rear, vehicle manufacturers let you know where the balance of the two are by setting a FALR limit.

[J. Morgan]

Originally Posted by Profxd

8,000 lbs of Jayco 28RBS. No Nissan says 50% max FALR so no they say it’s not best to have all weight returned to the front. Just like the front there are consequences to removing too much off the rear, vehicle manufacturers let you know where the balance of the two are by setting a FALR limit.

I just adjust till it feels the "awesomest"
when I drive.

It's not complicated.

[jcl]

Originally Posted by Profxd

8,000 lbs of Jayco 28RBS. No Nissan says 50% max FALR so no they say it’s not best to have all weight returned to the front. Just like the front there are consequences to removing too much off the rear, vehicle manufacturers let you know where the balance of the two are by setting a FALR limit.

Agree that manufacturers have different FALR targets, but it isn’t necessarily due to not wanting to move too much off the rear axle. It is more likely that reduced FALR targets are related to the strength (or lack of it) of the installed receivers.

RAM calls for 50% FALR for their HD trucks, including those with the heavy diesel up front. They concurrently call for 33% FALR for their half ton trucks, which arguably would benefit more from higher FALR than the HD models. But the HD models have a stronger receiver, so can handle the bending moment.

[Profxd]

HD trucks can handle more FALR because they can maintain understeer with it. Front to rear tire pressure offsets help maintain understeer on HD trucks but you won’t find any half tons with this offset. Since the half tons are already light on the front end and lowering front tire pressure also lowers cornering stiffness, it doesn’t become an option. It’s not because of the receivers.

[mikextr]

Originally Posted by out of sight

My front end goes up 1/4" when I hitch up the trailer. Maybe I should buy a weight distribution hitch to bring it down 1/8".

Careful there. You may end up with some nasty trailer sway.

[pteck]

Originally Posted by jcl

Agree that manufacturers have different FALR targets, but it isn’t necessarily due to not wanting to move too much off the rear axle. It is more likely that reduced FALR targets are related to the strength (or lack of it) of the installed receivers.

RAM calls for 50% FALR for their HD trucks, including those with the heavy diesel up front. They concurrently call for 33% FALR for their half ton trucks, which arguably would benefit more from higher FALR than the HD models. But the HD models have a stronger receiver, so can handle the bending moment.

Originally Posted by Profxd

HD trucks can handle more FALR because they can maintain understeer with it. Front to rear tire pressure offsets help maintain understeer on HD trucks but you won’t find any half tons with this offset. Since the half tons are already light on the front end and lowering front tire pressure also lowers cornering stiffness, it doesn’t become an option. It’s not because of the receivers.

I agree with....both. They're equally necessary considerations in the overall picture.

At least we agree and have some understanding as to why not to apply 100% FALR. The forces necessary to do that on a long wheelbase HD truck is pretty ridiculous.

[JonDNC]

Originally Posted by out of sight

This is why race cars have 60% to 65% of their weight on the rear wheels, so when they brake hard going into a turn they are closer to 50-50 for better braking and steering..
.

Not sure where your race car experience comes from but every car I’ve seen or put on the track goes for a close to 50/50 as possible. Why do you think Porsche’s newest race cars are mid engine.

[Pubtym]

I tow a 26RB with a 2010 F-50 XLT. It has the 10 gears. All you need. Tows great. Use "Tow Mode" to get around in slow zones and traffic. Can easily shift up to normal or "Eco Boost" from 65-70 mph. I highly recommend the XLT.

[SilvaStreama]

Hi! I had a 2018 Raptor that was all tricked out (it was my dealerships SEMA truck that year). I purchased the 2019 Globetrotter (25 feet), because it was an F150. All of my towing experience has been with horse trailers, from goose necks with living quarters to 2 horse bumper pulls. Needless to say, I figured a camper would be a piece of cake, no 2000 pound animals moving around in the trailer. Let me tell you, it was a white knuckle drive home from the AS dealer. My tires were too big, the truck was jacked up, and every time a tractor trailer passed me, I was blown over. I immediately changed out the tires to more road worthy ones and it didn't really help. So, I traded it in for a nice Platinum F250 diesel, and I can't even tell it is behind me. Now I wish I got the 27 footer!

[gypsydad]

Originally Posted by SilvaStreama

Hi! I had a 2018 Raptor that was all tricked out (it was my dealerships SEMA truck that year). I purchased the 2019 Globetrotter (25 feet), because it was an F150. All of my towing experience has been with horse trailers, from goose necks with living quarters to 2 horse bumper pulls. Needless to say, I figured a camper would be a piece of cake, no 2000 pound animals moving around in the trailer. Let me tell you, it was a white knuckle drive home from the AS dealer. My tires were too big, the truck was jacked up, and every time a tractor trailer passed me, I was blown over. I immediately changed out the tires to more road worthy ones and it didn't really help. So, I traded it in for a nice Platinum F250 diesel, and I can't even tell it is behind me. Now I wish I got the 27 footer!

I understand completely! But the 27' is like the 25'...hard to watch TV...check out the 28"!

Never got the Payload numbers from you, but the Raptor is not made for towing a 7K+ TT in my opinion...my Platinum 2012 F150 4x4, short bed, only had 1039lbs payload...didn't do bad at all towing my 25' AS's over my Tahoe's for 2 years, but I was always way overloaded...the Raptor is a beast no doubt, but not made for towing a good sized TT like an AS...the regular F150's w/ EB work fine..just watch the Payload. My F250 I purchased 2 years ago is great for our 28' AS...but the F150 was better for maneuvering around town, gas, ride, etc... I don't complain about the F250 KR because it is very capable of the job towing an 8K+ TT, ride is very nice, and I can haul several 100 LB's extra toys and gear.