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09-21-2018, 01:10 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 27' International CCD FB
San Diego
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Honda Generator on Tongue
Finished my project today, just in time for a long weekend camping trip this weekend.
I built a "tray" to hold and secure my Honda eu2200i on the factory battery box. The generator just fits in this narrow location. The tray has rails to keep it in position and avoid rubbing the AS body or propane tank cover. Also make provisions to secure it.
More detail pics to follow, but here's what it looks like at the moment.
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09-21-2018, 03:44 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Austin
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Are you going to run it off the tray? That will create a lot of vibration in your unit not to mention proximity to carbon monoxide and heat, the generators need a certain amount of space also if you read the manual.
Curious to hear others thoughts on this
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09-21-2018, 06:31 AM
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Winter Garden
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Also adds lots of weight to the tongue. With the right tow vehicle, no problem, but if I were already close to the load capacity of my TV, that extra weight right there on the tongue could be an issue.
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09-21-2018, 07:54 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Austin
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One other issue I would be concerned about is that generator you mentioned I believed needs to be paired to run the ac. I think they tray only holds 1 generator ? How are you going to pair it because the pairing wires are only around 18” long which I don’t think will reach the ground. Also if you have a reserve tank and or need to fill up with gasoline there are potential issues with gravity and gas will trickle down into the battery box or the propane area which I think could be an issue.
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09-21-2018, 08:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2013 20' Flying Cloud
Westerly
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Looks good, nice job!
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09-21-2018, 08:14 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by troubadour1
One other issue I would be concerned about is that generator you mentioned I believed needs to be paired to run the ac.
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Not with a MicroAir easy start. I can run my 15K on a Honda EU2000 no problem.
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09-21-2018, 09:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 27' Tommy Bahama
Marana
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Honda Generator on Tongue
Interested to see how it does, please let us know! Would like pictures of the build as well if you have them, been thinking of doing the same.
I believe Colonial RV also made a kit to mount Honda’s on the battery tray, but they won’t sell it, just install it. Long trip from AZ.
You could fab and exhaust snorkel to get the exhaust further away from the AS.
Any rubber feet or something else to mitigate vibration?
Is your Honda gen running off propane?
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09-21-2018, 09:23 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Austin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Not with a MicroAir easy start. I can run my 15K on a Honda EU2000 no problem.
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Those look cool
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09-21-2018, 09:27 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 23' International
Austin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Not with a MicroAir easy start. I can run my 15K on a Honda EU2000 no problem.
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Since you brought it up I’m curious if you did have them paired with two generators using that micro air thing that you have if you could run 2 AC’s?
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09-21-2018, 09:42 AM
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4 Rivet Member
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Fletcher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
Not with a MicroAir easy start. I can run my 15K on a Honda EU2000 no problem.
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It’s probably been explained before but can you explain what you are doing and measuring with the clamp on and probe me5er st the same time and what it shows? Thanks.
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09-21-2018, 09:50 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirstreamCSH
It’s probably been explained before but can you explain what you are doing and measuring with the clamp on and probe me5er st the same time and what it shows? Thanks.
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Just looking at the 2 meters, he's delivering 14.5A at 123.1 volts.
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09-21-2018, 10:26 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2022 27' Globetrotter
Fletcher
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Thank You
Where is the black wire he is clamping around going to and from? Too small to be an extension cord.
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09-21-2018, 10:33 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1985 25' Sovereign
Olympia
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Has anyone used the soft starter accessory which purportedly enables the use of one Honda generator to start and run one RV air conditioner? Is this a viable alternative for boondocking, as may be an interest of #1? The use of the soft starter on an airstream trailer videoed at
https://networkrv.com/review-easysta...nd-generators/
and at
https://www.microair.net/blogs/news/...r-testimonial/
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09-21-2018, 11:06 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AirstreamCSH
Thank You
Where is the black wire he is clamping around going to and from? Too small to be an extension cord.
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Just guessing, but since there's a 30A plug below the ammeter, and a red wire coming from the area near the plug on that blue generator in addition to the black one running through the amp-clamp, he's rigged a short dog bone with separated conductors so he can use that amp-clamp. You only clamp it around one leg. I suspect it's not GMFL's photo, since he said he has a Honda EU2000 and the generator in the photo is blue.
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09-21-2018, 11:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
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I like the generator mount on the tongue. Good place to carry the weight. No problems running the AC if a micro start is added. At least mine works fine with the AC and my Honda 2000. If you have a SUV instead of a pickup the tongue would seem to be the best place to carry a generator. Was going to do the tongue mount with the generator but still carrying it in the pickup bed. Right now I have the spare tire mounted where your generator is located.
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09-21-2018, 11:43 AM
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Renassiance man
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Simi valley
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Join Date: Aug 2016
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Generator
I used the loc pro locking plate and it works great!!
I have a spare 6 gallon tank I can use if need be, the “micr-air” capacitor for the roof air allows me to run the ac on one Honda 2000
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09-21-2018, 12:28 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' International
2014 25' International
2006 23' Safari SE
Oregon Buttes
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For those not towing with a pickup truck... a very good alternative option to haul the Honda. When there is a need... some find a way to do it.
The Honda fuel tank seals so well, I have never noticed any gasoline fumes when riding in the back bed with shell in our pickup. I also have not noticed the exhaust being excessive... as auto exhaust purring outdoors, as some seem to say. With our one 100w Solar Panel, I have left the Honda at home. When we camp at elevation, mornings in the low 40's and daytime in the 70's... no AC needed in the Rockies.
I am sure you will tweak things over time. The 'never do anything different crowd' will crow and bellow... but you did it and lets see how it works out.
It is better to have tried and failed, than done nothing and succeeded...is the way to be thinking. I have failed more often than succeeded, but that is why I own an Airstream. A project needing some gentle tweaking and occasionally a... well directed power hand tool.
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09-21-2018, 12:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 Avenue Coach
Corpus Christi
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It's good to see discussion about a generator solution instead of solar and batteries. Are there considerations, yes, as many have already pointed out. But the low cost and relative simplicity of a generator for the limited amount of time you'll actually use it makes good sense.
Plus, you have a generator for whatever other use you'd need one for!
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09-21-2018, 12:38 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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...works for us. 24gal AP. Notice the add-on foam seal on the lid.👍
Bob
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09-21-2018, 12:48 PM
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Rivet Master
1996 34' Excella
Elberta
, Alabama
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocinante
Also adds lots of weight to the tongue. With the right tow vehicle, no problem, but if I were already close to the load capacity of my TV, that extra weight right there on the tongue could be an issue.
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I doubt if 54 extra pounds on the tongue is going to make any difference
Larry
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