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06-14-2011, 03:06 PM
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Chief Chili Cook
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Bakersfield
, California
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Gringo, I have the Yamaha EF2400iSHC. It starts and runs the 15,000btu A/C on my 2010 Airstream with no sign of strain from the a/c or generator. I believe the a/c's started coming with the large starting capacitors a few years go which makes them easier to start (some have added these to older units also). The 2400iSHC can output 4400 watts for up to 10 seconds. The way the handles are designed make it very easy to carry and at 75lbs, no trouble for 2 to lift into the truck. I bought it recently for around $1250 (with cover and a nice Yamaha hat!), you probably can find it cheaper. For me, I wouldn't pay $1900 for the dual 2000 setup just so I could take one most of the time. That makes for a very expensive 1600 watt (2000 watt max for 30 minutes) generator. If I'm not running the a/c, then we would probably have a friend or family's RV plugged in also so 2 could charge batteries on 1 generator. Then you can have them buy the gas & beer!
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06-14-2011, 03:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Yes, and my Handi3000 is thoroughly capable of running my 15K BTU Carrier A/C.
You just can't turn on the microwave at the same time.
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06-14-2011, 04:15 PM
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one of those
2011 27 FB International
'03 F250 PSD
, Airstream summers, Catalac winters
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,091
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75 lbs is no problem for me to lift. waist high or so. not yet, anyhow.
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06-14-2011, 05:20 PM
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#24
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by UAPachyderm
Here is a pic.
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Please post a link to the company. or the post number if I missed it.
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Sarah, Snowball
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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06-14-2011, 07:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1985 31' Excella
Fresno
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 307
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Do the two Honda's auto sync or is it a manual synchronization?
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06-15-2011, 06:37 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
Birmingham
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 323
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Here's the Handi's Holy Grail ... http://www.vmsales.com/New_Images___Text_Layout_1.html
Scroll down and you'll see they sell the same type tank Robert Cross references above for the Handi.
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06-15-2011, 08:33 AM
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#28
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wsmith
Do the two Honda's auto sync or is it a manual synchronization?
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The EU2000i's auto sync. One is the master the other the slave. The i is important. They are inverter generators. I have one 6500W Honda that does not have an inverter. It cannot be paralleled.
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Sarah, Snowball
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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06-15-2011, 09:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,153
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In my research of several Dealers Wise Sales has the best price,with no tax and Free Shipping on the Two EU2000i's. Good warranty also.
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F350 CREWCAB SW LONG BED
7.3 liter Power Stroke Diesel
1977 27ft OVERLANDER
KA8LMQ
AIR # 22336 TAC- OH-7
May your roads be straight and smooth and may you always have a tailwind!
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06-15-2011, 12:00 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 20' Safari SE
Charlotte
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 147
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Quote:
Originally Posted by newroswell
I bought it recently for around $1250 (with cover and a nice Yamaha hat!), you probably can find it cheaper. For me, I wouldn't pay $1900 for the dual 2000 setup just so I could take one most of the time. That makes for a very expensive 1600 watt (2000 watt max for 30 minutes) generator. If I'm not running the a/c, then we would probably have a friend or family's RV plugged in also so 2 could charge batteries on 1 generator. Then you can have them buy the gas & beer!
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Good thinking. Where'd you buy your Yamaha?
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06-15-2011, 12:56 PM
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one of those
2011 27 FB International
'03 F250 PSD
, Airstream summers, Catalac winters
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,091
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If anyone is interested, here's a kinda gutless comparison of the 1,2, and 2.4 kw generators including Honda, Subaru-Robin, and Yamaha:
COMPACT GENERATOR SHOOT-OUT
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06-15-2011, 01:29 PM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 7,172
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gringo
If anyone is interested, here's a kinda gutless comparison of the 1,2, and 2.4 kw generators including Honda, Subaru-Robin, and Yamaha:
COMPACT GENERATOR SHOOT-OUT
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Here is another more recent test and an article on using the Yamaha in parallel.
Aaron
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06-15-2011, 03:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2009 27' FB Flying Cloud
1982 31' International
1991 35' Airstream 350
Jay
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,706
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To answer some of the questions above, the Honda 2000’s are available with different AC outlet configurations.
One of them is a standard 15 amp 2 outlets, similar to a standard household receptacle. This configuration also includes a 12 volt battery charger outlet.
The other configuration is usually considered the companion unit, and is the one you want if powering an RV. It includes one 15 amp standard outlet, and a 30 amp twist lock outlet.
Both units have lab styled “banana” plugs that facilitate parallel operations. Honda sells a kit with the parallel cable and an adapter from the twist lock outlet to a RV 30 amp female.
The procedure for operation is to plug the parallel cables in, start both generators, plug the 30 amp RV cord into the adapter and enjoy.
An outboard fuel tank is a worthwhile investment. There are several available. The one I chose is a six gallon that will feed both generators at once. The system comes with a custom fuel tank cap for the generators that allows a fuel hose to be connected. You start with a full tank on the generators, and they pull fuel from the tank. I have not tried the tank yet, so I can’t offer run time numbers.
I have borrowed and used the Honda 3000 with electric start. It is a great unit, but HEAVY! I chose the smaller and easier to handle 2000s, for the reasons listed here.
Regards,
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'09 27FB Flying Cloud;'82 31 International
'91 350 LE MH; '21 Interstate 24GT
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06-15-2011, 04:00 PM
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#34
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one of those
2011 27 FB International
'03 F250 PSD
, Airstream summers, Catalac winters
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,091
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I'm thinking I will be trying to rent one of the Yamaha 2400's to see if it will fire up the AC. I'm really not worried that much about noise. We will be mostly sitting in the middle of a 35 acre lot, in a land of 35+ acre lots. If the 2400 won't run the trailer, I'll go up to the 3000.
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06-15-2011, 04:30 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 27' FB International
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 17
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I've used a Honda EU3000i Handi and extended run fuel system for the past two years.
I made my own gravity feed extended run fuel system using a 12 gallon Attwood Marine fuel tank and a fuel line with a primer bulb. I modified the fuel cap by removing the vent, drilling it out and installing a marine fuel fitting. I placed a towel on top of my propane tank cover and place the fuel tank on top of the cover.
This set up gives me the 40 hour plus run time I need to tail gate with out ever shutting down to refuel. The Honda easily runs my 15K A/C and converter, but thats about it. I run everything else off propane and I shut off the A/C before using the microwave.
My Honda has 750+ hard hours (often 90-100 degrees) on it with zero problems. I use Mobil 1 and change the oil every 100 hours.
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06-15-2011, 04:32 PM
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#36
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
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Thanks,
I ordered two "spare" caps for my EU2000's today. I can get the marine fuel tank at one of our local Marine stores. I am going to make the set up myself.
My larger house backup generator is going to be converted to propane.
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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06-15-2011, 04:52 PM
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Chief Chili Cook
2010 30' Flying Cloud
Bakersfield
, California
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 738
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gringo
I'm thinking I will be trying to rent one of the Yamaha 2400's to see if it will fire up the AC. I'm really not worried that much about noise. We will be mostly sitting in the middle of a 35 acre lot, in a land of 35+ acre lots. If the 2400 won't run the trailer, I'll go up to the 3000.
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Make sure it's a 2400iSHC which is a recent model. The older 2400iS does not have the 4400 watt boost and most likely won't start a 15k unit.
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06-15-2011, 05:45 PM
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#38
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan3940
I've used a Honda EU3000i Handi and extended run fuel system for the past two years.
I made my own gravity feed extended run fuel system using a 12 gallon Attwood Marine fuel tank and a fuel line with a primer bulb. I modified the fuel cap by removing the vent, drilling it out and installing a marine fuel fitting. I placed a towel on top of my propane tank cover and place the fuel tank on top of the cover.
This set up gives me the 40 hour plus run time I need to tail gate with out ever shutting down to refuel. The Honda easily runs my 15K A/C and converter, but thats about it. I run everything else off propane and I shut off the A/C before using the microwave.
My Honda has 750+ hard hours (often 90-100 degrees) on it with zero problems. I use Mobil 1 and change the oil every 100 hours.
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Do you tailgate for UT games?
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06-15-2011, 05:56 PM
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#39
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one of those
2011 27 FB International
'03 F250 PSD
, Airstream summers, Catalac winters
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,091
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When we're not in the trailer, i.e. for most of the year, I'll have to store the generator inside the trailer, I'm thinking. That would make size and weight a little bit of an issue. Probably try to find some kind of Rubbermaid box or something to seal it up in. the wardrobe in the 27FB is probably big enough.
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06-15-2011, 06:17 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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some kind of Rubbermaid box or something to seal it up in...
24 gal Rubbermaid ActionPacker for the H2000i
http://www.google.com/#q=24+gal+rubb...w=1440&bih=720
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