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06-10-2011, 10:50 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2005 30' Classic S/O
Delta
, British Columbia
Join Date: Oct 2010
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Two Honda 2000 gens?
Why are ASers using two 2000 W generators instead of one larger one? Can all models of (eg Hondas) generators be joined together? Looking to buy a generator but unsure of pros and cons of different sizes. I have a 2005 As 30' Classic SO with one AC unit.
LRL
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06-10-2011, 11:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Trabuco Canyon
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Several reasons.
The two generators produce more power than one 3000 watt generator. Each 2K watt generator is easier to lift than one 3K watt generator. And in seasons where AC or high draw appliances are not needed some bring just one of the generators.
That said I have one 3K watt generator I ramp into the back of the truck. My reason is the larger generator holds more fuel in stock configuration and has greater run time (more than 8 hrs running AC). It is sufficient to run the air conditioner or the microwave but not both together.
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06-10-2011, 11:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Welcome to the forum.
Hi, although this wasn't my choice of generators, it is the most popular choice. At about 50 lbs each they are manageable and with two of them paralleled they will run your air conditioner. If your air conditioner is not needed, you can get by with one. Not all generators can be paralleled. With the exception of the Honda Handi, a 3,000 or larger generator weighs about 130+ lbs and for some of us, it's too heavy.
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2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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06-11-2011, 12:19 AM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle
First off, welcome to the Forums. We're glad to have you with us.
As to your question, you will have a lot more flexibility with 2 2000's than a single 3000. When you don't need the air conditioner, you can use one generator. The 2 2000's are manageable, weight wise.
We have used the two 2000 Hondas for several years now, and have found that they work very well for us.
Brian
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06-11-2011, 03:05 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
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We, too, labored with making the decision about what generator set up would best suite us, but we eventually decided on two Honda 2000s — a regular one plus a Comapnaion model — for exactly the reasons stated...take one or two depending on what is needed at the time; they are easier to manage weight-wise; and two 2000s give you more oomph than a single 3000. We are set for anything.
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06-11-2011, 06:20 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2011 30' Flying Cloud
Arvada
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 411
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Honda generators
We too looked at the 2 - 2,000 or the 3000 Handi options and went for the 3000. I can handle lifting the unit without assistance - at least for now. Decision was based on initial cost and less complexity. Works just fine powering our 15K AC. Also purchased an external fuel tank. All works great.
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06-11-2011, 06:29 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood
, Ohio
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I do not as of yet have a Generator('s).From my research most all of the Honda's can be parrelled. I do have a quote at $1899 US(2 EU2000i's and a parrell kit) Delivered to my door. Being that you are in BC Im not sure if that quote will hold up. Contact WISE SALES and see what they say.
I would choose the 2 Honda EU2000i and the Companion because of all the reasons mentioned above. Im not sure I could rangle a EU3000is because of its 140 some pounds.
ID GO FOR THE EU2000i
Just one mans opinion.
ROGER
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06-11-2011, 06:34 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Welcome Aboard....
There are only two generators made....Honda and Yamaha ,
I have used both, they are quality units, you can parallel both brands, you won't go wrong with either one.
One more thing.....you can't stay without posting some photo's.
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06-11-2011, 07:21 AM
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Rivet Monster
1975 31' Sovereign
1980 31' Excella II
Sprung Leak
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I have used Honda 2000's in parellel for several years. Just sold them to a relative and plan to replace them with a pair of the new Yamaha EF2000S next year. We run both Honda and Yamaha at work with great results. You won't go wrong with either set.
I use two for a several reasons, primarily because if one goes down I still have one for basic power, the 3,000 watt units may or may not crank an air conditioner, but the combined 4,000 watt will. In the winter I only need to take one with me. At home I can use one in my shop and the other up that barn to power small power tools (no power at the barn). Each 2,000 is easy to handle by itself and I am only going to get older.
Aaron
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06-11-2011, 08:14 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack46
We too looked at the 2 - 2,000 or the 3000 Handi options and went for the 3000. I can handle lifting the unit without assistance - at least for now. Decision was based on initial cost and less complexity. Works just fine powering our 15K AC. Also purchased an external fuel tank. All works great.
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Hey Jack, which external fuel tank did you purchase and how does it work? This is the sole drawback I've found to my Handi300 which overall I just love. But I don't like getting up in the middle of an 88-degree Texas night to refuel the genny to make it through the rest of the night with AC...
Thanks,
-Marcus
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06-11-2011, 08:23 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2005 30' Classic S/O
Delta
, British Columbia
Join Date: Oct 2010
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thanks all for your replies!
Does the Honda 2000 only have a standard household outlet which would indicate a 15 amp output only? Do these units have a built in circuit breaker limiting Amps to 15? If 2 are paralleled the combined amperage at peak could be 33.3 amps. Obviously those running 2 don't have this issue with the output and circuit breakers so I am confused how all this works with limited technical info.
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06-11-2011, 08:45 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1984 31' Sovereign
1978 Argosy 24
Zavalla
, Texas
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In addition to the comments provided, two Honda 2000's offer an easy backup for each other and I added the EZ Tank (six gallons and $139) that keeps one or both generators running for many hours ...... and they are so quiet.
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06-11-2011, 09:16 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Hueytown
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 174
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Pictures please. How to hook up together and how to hook to AS.
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06-11-2011, 09:22 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Honda Power Equipment - EU2000i
Should be able to get all info here....but shop for pricing.
Click on the Parallel info in blue....
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06-11-2011, 06:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LRL
Why are ASers using two 2000 W generators instead of one larger one? Can all models of (eg Hondas) generators be joined together? Looking to buy a generator but unsure of pros and cons of different sizes. I have a 2005 As 30' Classic SO with one AC unit.
LRL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERTSUNRUS
Hi, although this wasn't my choice of generators, it is the most popular choice. At about 50 lbs each they are manageable and with two of them paralleled they will run your air conditioner. If your air conditioner is not needed, you can get by with one. Not all generators can be paralleled. With the exception of the Honda Handi, a 3,000 or larger generator weighs about 130+ lbs and for some of us, it's too heavy.
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Hi, the reason, or reasons that I chose the Yamaha 2400 were.
(1.) At the time, and now, the Yamaha 2400 is only about $200.00 more than one Honda 2000. [quite a bit less expensive than two Hondas]
(2.) I wanted to run my [11,000 BTU] air conditioner with one light weight generator. [70 lbs]
(3.) It has two handles, makeing it easier to lift by myself or with wife helping.
(4.) Only one to maintain, but not a big deal.
(5.) The color matches the stripes on my trailer.
(6.) All of my motorcycles were Hondas, but I know Yamaha is just as good.
(7.) Like most everyone else who isn't afraid to tell the truth, I also considered many of the cheap brands before buying one of the best.
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2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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06-11-2011, 07:40 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
Birmingham
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2007
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This is just my opinion but the Honda EU3000 Handi is a newer model that is under appreciated by RVers (probably because most are already invested in another gen model). The Handi has a handle and wheels. It weighs just 75lbs and it will work with an extended run fuel tank via gravity feed.
I also own two 2000s. The flexibility of 2000s is great. They are very light and easy to handle. And, 4000 watts allows you to run that microwave simultaneous to the A/C.
I also own and an oldie but a goodie ... EU3000is. The EU3000is is my favorite performer by FAR, but it's a bit too heavy for me to move around.
So, I find myself using the Handi almost exclusively when RV camping. Having said that, all three of the above options work perfectly well.
When we tailgate at football games, we often bring the EU3000is because it mostly purrs at a very quiet 49dbs. The Handi pushes 59dbs (still relatively quiet) and the 2000s push about 57dbs (but double the hum).
The National Park Service requires that generators not exceed 60 dbs measured at 50'. The "quiet" inverter series Hondas and Yamahas all comply.
Good luck!
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06-11-2011, 07:42 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
Birmingham
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utee94
Hey Jack, which external fuel tank did you purchase and how does it work? This is the sole drawback I've found to my Handi300 which overall I just love. But I don't like getting up in the middle of an 88-degree Texas night to refuel the genny to make it through the rest of the night with AC...
Thanks,
-Marcus
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Not to high"jack" Jack's answer, but the Handi uses the same extended run tank as the 2000s. However, the Handi requires gravity assistance ... the tank must be placed higher than the gen.
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06-11-2011, 07:48 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 28' International CCD
Birmingham
, Alabama
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Here is a pic.
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06-14-2011, 08:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Cool, thanks for the input. I've just sent off for a 6-gallon extended tank to use on my Handi3000, and I'll let you all know how it goes. I love this genny, just not its small fuel capacity, so I'm really looking forward to using this solution.
If I no longer have to get up at 2 AM on those 85-degree nights to fuel up the genny in order to get the A/C back on, this is going to be some of the best money I've ever spent!
-Marcus
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06-14-2011, 02:23 PM
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one of those
2011 27 FB International
'03 F250 PSD
, Airstream summers, Catalac winters
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I've seen several places say that the Honda 3000 ( the 70 lb one) will run the 13,500 btu airconditioner.
Since the newer 27's have the 15,000 btu ac, I guess it's a waste of time to even consider the single 3000 watt. I'll strike that one off the list.
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