Lot of Rope Light Under RV's While Camping All Night

[fthopkins]

My Dad, who camped A LOT, told my wife putting rope lights under the RV would keep the snakes away. Now I have no choice but to put them under our RV. Let me add one thing; Daddy never had a car that got less than 30 mpg, it never rained at his house less than 3 inches and his S.S. checks were always over $5,000.oo per month. hahahahahahahaa

BTW, I have one strain and turn them off as soon as our last "puppy walk". AND I love the smell of a good campfire.

[Hittenstiehl]

This thread is going the same way of many others here lately. Likely to get shut down in a few more pages.

My electric car is more eco friendly than your truck.
My diesel truck doesn't idle for long.
My generator isn't very loud.
My dogs never bark.
My dogs never off leash.
My firewood doesn't stink.
My trailer lights don't bother anyone.
My gray water doesn't hurt the ecology.
My boondocking is low impact.
My kids never screaming unnecessarily.
My kids never run through others campgrounds.
The rules don't forbid it so that implies it's legal or allowed.
Don't impose on me.
We can all decide on our own.
If you don't like it stay home.
If you don't like what they say insult them.

Anytime you add people to the equation they bring people problems. Lovely and annoying diversity of opinions and assumptions.

[GetawA-S]

Back when I was supervising contractors, I concurred with an electrician’s suggestion that installing outdoor lighting fixtures on an eighty foot tower without the hoods would be more cost effective and provide for better lighting.
The next day, the boss led me out to the job site and asked, “What’s with these bare light fixtures?” I explained, and he pointed at a neighborhood about a quarter mile away. “They care. They don’t want to look at the glare all night. They’ll be calling the city on us. Have the light hoods installed right away.” You can bet I did.
For the apparent majority of us who don’t go camping to stare at city lights all night or choke on someone else’s pathetic attempts at fire building or listen to a miserable, neglected dog, the best recourse is to complain to the management. Loudly. Consistently. Vociferously. It’s the campground manager’s job to establish acceptable behavior, communicate it, and enforce it. Otherwise it will always be a contest between those with “rights” and those who feel “violated”, with the end result being too many disgruntled campers.

[RivetED]

Originally Posted by Hittenstiehl

...Anytime you add people to the equation they bring people problems. ...

To me the lights are the secondary issue.

[kscherzi]

Though it's never happened to me, I hear and respect concerns about rats chewing through wires and causing thousands in damage.

Yet here's a video of a test made with real rats and mice that appeared unconcerned about the crossing the rope light.

https://youtu.be/EVN9JXUJXdY

Still, stringing some rope lights on top of a trucks engine with the hood most the way down should strike a reasonable compromise between light pollution and vehicle protection.

[gln826]

Originally Posted by BayouBiker

One man's trash is another man's treasure. Who are you to decide what for others is obnoxious? Camping is attracting a lot of folks who don't share your appreciation of nature, and our society has been teaching us for better than 50 years that diversity of thought, customs, behaviors and style is a plus. Welcome to the world of social diversity, and places like California seem to be leading the way. Enjoy!

Can't get much more self absorbed than that. What is obnoxious is imposing yourself on others. Lights and noise may be part of your camping experience, but by letting them leak into the domain of others, you're imposing, plain and simple.

[ITSNO60]

In the desert it gets pretty chilly at night, when you park a nice warm truck in the evening the pack rats are attracted tol the heat of the engine and figure they will build their nest there. Nice and warm and plenty of soy based wire insulation, what more could a hard working pack rat desire for his family? Opening the hood and putting lights underneath certainly helps keep them away. One other thing to note, where there are pack rats there are snakes, although not so active when it's cold.

[rmkrum]

Really, the bottom line on all of this is something I learned forever ago:

Your rights end where someone else’s begin.

Keep that in mind and life is a lot easier.

[StreamNTyme]

It is apparent some people still believe they do not need think of anyone else except themselves. They do not need to be considerate or "be kind" unless there is a rule. This is only part of what has deteriorated our Country.

[hobbie1]

Originally Posted by ITSNO60

In the desert it gets pretty chilly at night, when you park a nice warm truck in the evening the pack rats are attracted tol the heat of the engine and figure they will build their nest there. Nice and warm and plenty of soy based wire insulation, what more could a hard working pack rat desire for his family? Opening the hood and putting lights underneath certainly helps keep them away. One other thing to note, where there are pack rats there are snakes, although not so active when it's cold.

Curious - what type / brand of light with motion detection is being used

[B. Cole]

Originally Posted by gln826

Can't get much more self absorbed than that. What is obnoxious is imposing yourself on others. Lights and noise may be part of your camping experience, but by letting them leak into the domain of others, you're imposing, plain and simple.

The obvious sarcasm you addressed, was posted in the #3 post position ,( yours is #59).
Due to location of the OP, and the location pointed out at end of post #3, I thought I would point that out.
The chum line from post #3 has provided additional humor, all through the thread.
Bait, as it were...

[ROBERT CROSS]

Luckily it's a long road and we are a lot further along than most of y'all....It's unlikely 'yer woke choice of 'lighting' will ever stain our consciousness.
BTW...I'm the one who locked your screaming child in the outhouse.

Why we love our Adirondack NYSDEC Campground, anything that scares the Loons away at night is not allowed. 👍

Bob
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[djb75]

Out of curiosity, would red lights keep the pack rats at bay? If so, this would have less of an effect on night vision.

[369goose]

Originally Posted by BayouBiker

I guess you failed to see the sarcasm. Fortunately the woke crowd seems to be discovering their diversity arguments are a two way street. Perhaps someday manners and respect will be a part of our society again.

We can always hope. I’m not a fan of the overdone bright lights but I won’t let it ruin an otherwise terrific camping trip.

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by BayouBiker

I've made my point and am happy with it. Many campsites post their rental contracts and rules, including lights at night online. Some specifically prohibit lights, some specifically allow them. Others allow them by allowing a host of things not mentioned, other reserve the right to disallow anything that they find distracting. Take a look if you like.

Yep...if it's on paper it's always rite.

Bob
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[ITSNO60]

Most people just use an automotive drop light, some rope light, or those cheap Harbor Freight motion lights. Some say a few chlorine tablets work too.

[ondaroadagin]

Under body lights do NOTHING to dissuade pack rats. Sorry.

[ROBERT CROSS]

Originally Posted by ondaroadagin

Under body lights do NOTHING to dissuade pack rats. Sorry.

That's very true, no way would I leave her behind.

Bob
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[rucos]

Im curious as we don't have pack rats around here, but my airstream is sealed up with the belly pan.
Ive made sure that I have no critter holes, by double checking and blocking anything that may be a potential issue.
Dont most or all airstreams have belly pans??

[azflycaster]

Originally Posted by rucos

Im curious as we don't have pack rats around here, but my airstream is sealed up with the belly pan.
Ive made sure that I have no critter holes, by double checking and blocking anything that may be a potential issue.
Dont most or all airstreams have belly pans??

Our area is plagued by them. These rodents can do serious damage to water and electrical systems in trailers and cars. Blinking lights are the most effective tool is keeping them away. We also use snap traps around the exterior of the house, but the dozens that we eliminate hardly puts a dent in the population.

As far as rat and mouse proofing, they can squeeze their way through very small openings. A mouse can pass through a 1/4" hole and a fully grown Pack Rat can make it through a 3/4" hole.

There are also wires that are exposed such as the power cord, brake magnets and power jack. Rats love wires!