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11-15-2018, 10:06 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
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SANTA BARBARA
, CA
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HELP!!! Water leak inside 23D
First day of trip, arrived at campground, hooked up water and electric.
Just noticed big puddle of fresh water by bathroom door! It looks like it crept there from just left of the door hinge , outside the bathroom, by the ledge that’s to right of bed at bottom.
We haven’t used shower, and shower and shower head are completely dry.
What the heck could this water be from??? I’m afraid I’ll go to sleep and wake up with big puddle again!
Sorry, photo loaded sideways.
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11-15-2018, 10:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Not sure but did you connect your city water to the black tank flush? Is there a disconnect in your plumbing? Was the toilet bowl full while traveling and maybe it sloshed out?
Definitely shut off the city water at the post, shut off your pump (for fresh tank) and you’ll have no source of water coming in. That should help you sleep a little easier and then check it all out in the light of day.
Good luck!
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11-15-2018, 10:23 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
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SANTA BARBARA
, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Not sure but did you connect your city water to the black tank flush? Is there a disconnect in your plumbing? Was the toilet bowl full while traveling and maybe it sloshed out?
Definitely shut off the city water at the post, shut off your pump (for fresh tank) and you’ll have no source of water coming in. That should help you sleep a little easier and then check it all out in the light of day.
Good luck!
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No, no water came from the toilet either. The puddle seems to have come from outside bathroom.
Puddle wasn’t there upon arrival, so wasn’t travel related.
Thx for suggesting we unhook water for the night.
Phooey!!! Not the way you want to start a trip!
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11-15-2018, 10:30 PM
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
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SANTA BARBARA
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Here’s photo again. Red arrow pointing to where water seemed to come from. Blue arrow pointing in direction where puddle formed.
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11-15-2018, 10:45 PM
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Registered User
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Fairfield
, California
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 905
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdstuff
Here’s photo again. Red arrow pointing to where water seemed to come from. Blue arrow pointing in direction where puddle formed.
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Look to see if the connection between the toilet and the plumbing is tight. Give it a little twist to tighten it.
Also put paper out to see where the leak is coming from.
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11-16-2018, 04:07 AM
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"Hey, I know you!"
Chapin
, South Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 225
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Have you opened the rear hatch and checked the water lines there? Could also be a leak in the abs drain line that runs through there.
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11-16-2018, 05:14 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattirs
Look to see if the connection between the toilet and the plumbing is tight. Give it a little twist to tighten it.
Also put paper out to see where the leak is coming from.
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Ah, just be careful don’t this! Instead, may I suggest you put some Teflon tape on that connection and tighten firmly but not too much. I had a leak at the toilet input and hand tightened the connection and it popped off! Had to find a dealer that could install a new one! A slightly leaking toilet is better than no toilet! Btw....mine still leaks!
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11-16-2018, 06:01 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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A leak coming from that area on a 23D will either be one of the low point drains in rear storage compartment or a leak under the shower. Either one can be inspected from the rear storage compartment. Hope and pray it’s a low point valve and not under the shower.
If it is under the shower it can be fixed without removing the shower, but you will have to remove a large section of the plumbing to repair and then replace.
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11-16-2018, 07:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
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SANTA BARBARA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
A leak coming from that area on a 23D will either be one of the low point drains in rear storage compartment or a leak under the shower. Either one can be inspected from the rear storage compartment. Hope and pray it’s a low point valve and not under the shower.
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Was too dark and cold out when we discover this last night, to look. Just getting up now,and will go out and look for signs of a leak in storage compartment.
We just left home yesterday. Haven’t used shower yet. Set up at campground, went out to dinner, came back (still no puddle), turned on hot water heater...and then about 1/2 later, noticed the puddle.
So then I turned off water heater. We did stay connected to city water though. Have seen no sign of water since then. Paper towels I put down, are bone dry.
Is it possible it’s related to the water heater?
Going out to check storage compartment now....
YES...wetness in storage compartment!! Will have to take everything out of there to see what is going on. But a couple of things that are in there are wet.
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11-16-2018, 07:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdstuff
Was too dark and cold out when we discover this last night, to look. Just getting up now,and will go out and look for signs of a leak in storage compartment.
We just left home yesterday. Haven’t used shower yet. Set up at campground, went out to dinner, came back (still no puddle), turned on hot water heater...and then about 1/2 later, noticed the puddle.
So then I turned off water heater. We did stay connected to city water though. Have seen no sign of water since then. Paper towels I put down, are bone dry.
Is it possible it’s related to the water heater?
Going out to check storage compartment now....
YES...wetness in storage compartment!! Will have to take everything out of there to see what is going on. But a couple of things that are in there are wet.
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Could be WH low point drain. Follow the plumbing and be sure all handles are all the way in line with flow.
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11-16-2018, 08:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
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SANTA BARBARA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
Could be WH low point drain. Follow the plumbing and be sure all handles are all the way in line with flow.
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And this is where?? In the water heater compartment or inside the storage compartment?
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11-16-2018, 08:41 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
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FOUND the source. Leaking from valve on this white pipe in storage compartment. What is it and how do I fix it?!
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11-16-2018, 09:14 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2011 20' Flying Cloud
Lemont
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdstuff
FOUND the source. Leaking from valve on this white pipe in storage compartment. What is it and how do I fix it?!
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That's the low-point drainage valve. It's used to drain the water out of the pipes for winter storage. It should be closed all summer.
I suggest removing it, cleaning the fittings, and then reinstalling it. One of the clamps might not be tight, or there might have been water in the valve over the winter that could have frozen and caused a hairline crack.
If the valve is cracked or damaged, it's a cheap and easy repair. If you're not near an RV store, a hardware store would probably have a valve, or even an end cap, to stop the leak until you can get a proper replacement.
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11-16-2018, 09:34 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Washington
, Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,272
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Something like this happened to me in my new Airstream and it turned out to a loose fitting at the city water inlet port. I accessed it through the back of my closet and spotted a slow drip from it. After that, I stopped hooking up to water at city inlet and went off the fresh water tank and pump until I got it to an AS-authorized facility to do the fix. They confirmed my diagnosis.
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11-16-2018, 09:35 AM
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Rivet Master
2018 23' International
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SANTA BARBARA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn T
That's the low-point drainage valve. It's used to drain the water out of the pipes for winter storage. It should be closed all summer.
I suggest removing it, cleaning the fittings, and then reinstalling it. One of the clamps might not be tight, or there might have been water in the valve over the winter that could have frozen and caused a hairline crack.
If the valve is cracked or damaged, it's a cheap and easy repair. If you're not near an RV store, a hardware store would probably have a valve, or even an end cap, to stop the leak until you can get a proper replacement.
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Well, no winter problems here (SoCal and Arizona)! We’ve never winterized, and valves are in off position.
The technician said that on these new units, ours is a 2018, you need a special crimping tool for fitting the pipe and valve, you cannot just use a screwdriver to replace them.
Pissed off that the local dealer here in Tucson, Lazy Days is not willing to squeeze us into their schedule. Surely a water leak while traveling must be a priority...you’d think. Thanks for nothing.
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11-16-2018, 09:36 AM
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Rivet Master
2019 25' International
Washington
, Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Oct 2014
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I know how upsetting it is to see a puddle or rivulet of water coming out from under wherever. I figured out I could use the pump and fresh water tank by turning on water and pump and watching the pump to see if any leakage occurred. And of course if any puddling occurred doing this. It didn't, it only happened when I had city water hooked up.
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11-16-2018, 09:50 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Weirdstuff just a FWIW
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f542...ml#post2176203
I'm sure your access on the inside to FW services are different than our 20, but you may want to thumb tighten all connections, especially the hard to get to. I now check the FW/BW connections on a regular basis.
B
Ps, congrats on tracking down your leak. I too have felt the panic.
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11-16-2018, 10:07 AM
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Airstream Ambassador
Jackson Center
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdstuff
First day of trip, arrived at campground, hooked up water and electric.
Just noticed big puddle of fresh water by bathroom door! It looks like it crept there from just left of the door hinge , outside the bathroom, by the ledge that’s to right of bed at bottom.
We haven’t used shower, and shower and shower head are completely dry.
What the heck could this water be from??? I’m afraid I’ll go to sleep and wake up with big puddle again!
Sorry, photo loaded sideways.
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Thank you.*
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11-16-2018, 10:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mattirs
Look to see if the connection between the toilet and the plumbing is tight. Give it a little twist to tighten it.
Also put paper out to see where the leak is coming from.
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Yes, this.
We had a leak behind the toilet, that stopped with tightening.
Sorry for your troubles, and good luck.
Maggie
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11-16-2018, 11:19 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 28' International
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 405
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FWIW - Maintenance
Quote:
Originally Posted by weirdstuff
Well, no winter problems here (SoCal and Arizona)! We’ve never winterized, and valves are in off position.
The technician said that on these new units, ours is a 2018, you need a special crimping tool for fitting the pipe and valve, you cannot just use a screwdriver to replace them.
Pissed off that the local dealer here in Tucson, Lazy Days is not willing to squeeze us into their schedule. Surely a water leak while traveling must be a priority...you’d think. Thanks for nothing.
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Weirdstuff, Sorry to hear of your troubles, but congratulations on your troubleshooting and running to ground the source of the leak. We're fairly new to Airstreaming with our 2017 28 Serenity. Fortunately we've had no serious issues, but did take advantage of a factory visit to take care of some mods and have some minor adjustments made. One thing though is that there are a lot of things we can take care of on our trailers with a few simple tools and patience. If you can do some of your own maintenance you can avoid dealing with the dealers and all the frustrations that come with that. I have yet to take my trailer to a dealer and, knock on wood. As you experienced, this forum is an excellent source for help. I am fully confident no matter what issue we may be experiencing there is someone (most of the time lots of someones) on the forum who have experienced the same thing and have worked through it. For your leak, you can go to Home Depot or Lowes and purchase a valve that will fit and work and a couple of small clamps and you're good to go. It won't have the factory clamp - but that's ok - the old band clamps will work just fine. Good Luck and Enjoy your AS!
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