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11-01-2021, 01:28 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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Salem
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new dexter axles problem
I recently replaced the axles on our 1992 excella 1000 with dexter axles with the "easy spindle/hub replacement"option. After only three short trips with the new axles, we discovered the spindles on two axles have rotated in the axle's bracket.
I assume this happened during braking but I do not recall a time when I had to brake the trailer aggressively.
Has anyone purchased dexter axles with this option and have you found any issues with the spindle/hub rotating in the bracket?
Thanks for any insights or advice...
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11-01-2021, 01:48 PM
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Site Team
2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
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Contact Dexter tech support or vendor that sold to you.
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11-01-2021, 02:04 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Appears the bolt is missing & the spindle has started to back out...I would NOT tow with it.
Bob
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11-01-2021, 02:25 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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another pic
the bolt is in place. This is not the only spindle that has rotated.
here is another pic of the bolt holding the bracket tight.
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11-01-2021, 05:13 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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Salem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GCinSC2
Contact Dexter tech support or vendor that sold to you.
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I have!
Once I provided the requested vin#,
Axle serial #’s and pictures, for the warranty submission, dexter went dark on me.
Not sure what’s going on.
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11-01-2021, 05:52 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne.yl
the bolt is in place. This is not the only spindle that has rotated.
here is another pic of the bolt holding the bracket tight.
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I don't see how the bolt could 'clamp' a welded saddle.
Something has to keep the spindle from backing out, which obviously happening.
Are all the saddles welded like that?
Bob
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11-01-2021, 06:51 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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Salem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
I don't see how the bolt could 'clamp' a welded saddle.
Something has to keep the spindle from backing out, which obviously happening.
Are all the saddles welded like that?
Bob
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Yes I see what you mean!
After Looking at all the axles, it appears they are all welded this way.
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11-01-2021, 07:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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Salem
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Another pic
Here is another pic of a saddle and spindle that has remained intact.
Sorry for the unclear picture.
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11-01-2021, 07:24 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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I found this.....
Someone has mickey moused that axle. It's going to have to come apart for inspection. The 'clamp' should have held.
Bob
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11-01-2021, 07:37 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Well I don't see all the spindle collar, but it doesn't appear welded.
Bob
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11-01-2021, 07:38 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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Salem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne.yl
Yes I see what you mean!
After Looking at all the axles, it appears they are all welded this way.
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Wait a minute.. After more inspection, it appears not all the saddles are welded like others. Not sure what is going on?
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11-01-2021, 07:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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Salem
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Your are right Bob. This saddle is not welded!
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11-01-2021, 07:51 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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Salem
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Confused!
I ordered them direct from dexter. If someone has tried to modify the axles, they did it at the dexter factory. 
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11-02-2021, 05:52 AM
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2007 30' Classic S/O
Somewhere
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Wayne,
As shown in the video Robert linked axle has a flat they describe as a D and the axle has a matching D retained by a 1/2" bolt intersecting a machined groove in the spindle. Also torqued to spec 120 lb-ft if spindle only R&R?
Do all of the stub axles have the flat V profile in your pic? If only one moved can you check the pinch bolt torque?
Gary
https://www.dexteraxle.com/user_area...eplacement.pdf
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11-02-2021, 06:08 AM
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Rivet Master 
2013 31' Classic
billings
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
I don't see how the bolt could 'clamp' a welded saddle.
Something has to keep the spindle from backing out, which obviously happening.
Are all the saddles welded like that?
Bob
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Clamp is doing nothing..Dexter may want to see this  ..
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11-02-2021, 10:48 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2019 22' Sport
Sharon
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Deformed "D"
Looks like the female "D" feature is deformed; maybe welding softened material??? Why didn't clamp hold?
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11-02-2021, 12:06 PM
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2 Rivet Member 
1976 Argosy 28
Warrenton
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Different thought process
I was talking to the Dexter rep at the international rally and he mentioned that they had discovered that the system would shutter if there wasn't an angle put into the brake system.
1. If you look at the angle on the carrier not the spindle you will notice that there are two exact flats on the carrier, and since it is highly unlikely that you rammed the reverse the same as you rammed the forward but they are both the same and since the axle is not wobbling loose in the carrier I would conclude that the angles on the carrier are there to put this angle into the brake system which fixes a problem that they encountered.
2. I suspect that they forgot to include these angles in the video as they were put in later as a fix and documentation wasn't changed to reflect that.
3. The angles on both sided of the carrier are there so that you can install them on the left and right sides of the trailer...I would check with Dexter to make sure that you installed the axles with the angles in the proper orientation. Verifying that they are correct my belief is that they were made this way and it's not yet common knowledge but it might just be after this post.
This is what I suspect but please verify it with Dexter as they know why they do things and can professionally verify that you don't have an issue.
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11-02-2021, 12:16 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1977 31' Sovereign
1992 34' Excella
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Salem
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Dexter warranty update
Finally talked to Phillip at Dexter in Elkhart IN today. I should be getting an "administrator" assigned to my claim by tomorrow.
FYI... While Phillip is not a Warranty Administrator, he did say that this type of axle with the replacement spindle option should not be rotating like the picture shows. He also said that because the axles have this option, they should be able to get me back on the road again relatively soon.
So we will see...
Thanks fellas for your insights and advice...
Will keep you updated as I learn more from Dexter.
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11-02-2021, 01:12 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne.yl
Finally talked to Phillip at Dexter in Elkhart IN today. I should be getting an "administrator" assigned to my claim by tomorrow.
FYI... While Phillip is not a Warranty Administrator, he did say that this type of axle with the replacement spindle option should not be rotating like the picture shows. He also said that because the axles have this option, they should be able to get me back on the road again relatively soon.
So we will see...
Thanks fellas for your insights and advice...
Will keep you updated as I learn more from Dexter.
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Excellent news... Let's hope it stays excellent.
Bob
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11-02-2021, 01:46 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 30' Classic S/O
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Looking more closely...
Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne.yl
Your are right Bob. This saddle is not welded!
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It appears that the saddle (if that is what you are calling the ring with the two flats in it) is welded only one one side. That would allow the clamping bolt to tighten the around the spindle.
Further, the flat of the spindle does not appear (to me, at least) to have backed out, and the bolt should be engaging the groove in the spindle to keep that from happening.
I have no experience with this option, so my opinion is just that.
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