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07-30-2009, 12:02 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2009 23' International
Boulder
, Colorado
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 59
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Wireless Speakers 12 DC options
Hello,
In my search for a clean solution to outside speakers i've purchased the following: JBL On Air Control 2.4G wireless speaker system Surround Speaker System reviews - CNET Reviews
These speakers sound great and the wireless connection has proven clear and reliable. My only issue is where to route them as the wireless transmitter requires a 120v plug. My first solution was to place the unit (with some double sided tape) behind my TV and plug use the headphone jack to tap into the airstreams audio system. This allows me access to both sound input and 120v plug. It's almost a perfect setup except that I have to set the headphone volume and the AS stereo volume. The BEST option is to plug into the AS Line in jack and use the existing speaker switch (inside/outside/both) this also would probably have better sound quality.
BUT there is no 120v plug for the trasmitter in the cabinet space next to the AS stereo...my only option is the 12 DC plug.
So i need an adapter.....which leads me to my question. The wireless transmitter needs 5v 1000a. (it currently uses a 120v plug to 5v adapter) I have found a couple options for 12 volt to 5v adapters that might work in place. But one from radioshack is a 4.5v 1000a and the other is had a switch to let you choose from 4.5 or 6 v and up to 2000a. My question is....is there room for a .5 variance in voltage? Will it work? Will the transmitter only draw 1000a of the 2000a some of these adapters are rated.....How much danger is there of frying my wireless transmitter if I use something not rated at exactly 5v 1000a?
THANKS
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03-25-2013, 09:36 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Rancho Murieta
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
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tmarquis,
I am trolling the Forum for information on wireless speakers and came across your thread. I figure 4 years later, you must be an expert in the field of WIRELESS by now. I have a 2007 27FB and I too am trying to expand my sound to the outside of the coach. What can you share?
Thanks in advance!
Ron
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03-25-2013, 10:01 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2006 16' International CCD
Salt Lake City
, Utah
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Posts: 301
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03-26-2013, 12:05 AM
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Maniacal Engineer
1971 25' Tradewind
Lopez Island
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,244
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Note that wireless speakers still need powered amplifiers, so that means either wires or lots of batteries.
If I just needed music outdoors, I'd use a jobsite radio that works w/ the Li ion batteries from my electric drill. Milwaukee and DeWalt both make 'em.
If I wanted to listen to the music playing in my Airstream while sitting outside, I'd turn it up and open the door.
If I wanted a dance party outside the Airstream using the music playing in the Airstream, I'd add a class D automotive power amp to the Airstream stereo and fit some speaker connectors behind a waterproof outlet cover set into a hatch somewhere, and plug in some of those waterproof speakers used in ski boats..... but this is likely to drain the batteries pretty quickly, and annoy the other campers, bears and rangers.
So far the most practical suggestion I think is to upgrade the stereo in the AS and open the door. I replaced our original "Golden Voice" speakers
with Infinity Kappas and the missing eight track with a 25w/channel kenwood - pretty good sound, and it draws less than 1 amp from the solar at reasonable listening levels.
Seriously, think about how you want to use these. There are likely better solutions to the problem.
- Bart
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03-26-2013, 09:23 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Bluetooth and a Sonos or Bose system.
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03-26-2013, 09:56 AM
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Moderator
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrunes
Bluetooth and a Sonos or Bose system.
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I think an expensive speaker system may be overkill when using Bluetooth as the interconnect between source and speakers, personally... neither of the "A"s in A2DP stands for "audiophile."
In our vintage Argosy there were no speakers, though it did come with what seems to have been a period dealer option, a "Truetone" semi-portable radio that plugged into the antenna. I've never bothered with it, it's just a prop.
I have a Monster iClarityHD bluetooth stereo speaker that charges via USB and is more than adequate for the kind of non-critical listening we do when traveling, and could easily be turned out loud enough to annoy campground neighbors (which is to say it does more than we need.) I caught a sale for about $60. It has a 3.5mm stereo jack as well as the BT interface, so we can use it with an old-school MP3 player as well as with our tablets or smartphones.
There are several competitive brands and models, that just happened to be the one I tried because the price was right.
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03-26-2013, 10:09 AM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DKB_SATX
I think an expensive speaker system may be overkill when using Bluetooth as the interconnect between source and speakers, personally... neither of the "A"s in A2DP stands for "audiophile."
In our vintage Argosy there were no speakers, though it did come with what seems to have been a period dealer option, a "Truetone" semi-portable radio that plugged into the antenna. I've never bothered with it, it's just a prop.
I have a Monster iClarityHD bluetooth stereo speaker that charges via USB and is more than adequate for the kind of non-critical listening we do when traveling, and could easily be turned out loud enough to annoy campground neighbors (which is to say it does more than we need.) I caught a sale for about $60. It has a 3.5mm stereo jack as well as the BT interface, so we can use it with an old-school MP3 player as well as with our tablets or smartphones.
There are several competitive brands and models, that just happened to be the one I tried because the price was right.
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Sorry for the confusion..I was referring to the portable systems...you can use them via BT for your DVD, laptop, tablet, smartphone/ no3/ hotspot in the trailer or out...$250 and like you said, all bases are covered no sense running wires for much of anything these days unless its for your sit down audiophile environment, which is definitely not the airstream and camping.
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03-26-2013, 10:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
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I have a Jambox by Jawbone, and I have been really happy with it. It will connect via bluetooth from my phone or you can hard wire it from a 3.5 mm plug. It is a really quality product. It is not cheap but worth the money imho.
Dan
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03-26-2013, 10:44 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 22' Safari
modesto
, California
Join Date: Jul 2010
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I agree with Barts well thought out solutions. Upgrade your system,
Kenwood KDC-x995
Boston Acoustics SR60 up front
Pioneer Stage 4 PRS-D4200F AMP
Bose Acoustimas 3 speaker system in the rear
open the door and windows and enjoy!
With the 25/W kenwood and Boston Acoustics only pulls about 1 amp, however kick on the Amplifier and rear speakers and it pulls 3.2 amps.
But I also have 4 lifeline GPL-4CT batteries to back it up.
Dennis
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03-26-2013, 11:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 25' Classic
Prescott
, Arizona
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Since our heat pump, air conditioner is soooo quiet, our speakers in the flat tv were not able to put out enough volume. I also just wanted something that would not disturb the DW sleeping late at night. The wireless speaker has solved the problem and can be taken outside when needed. The shelf comes off when not needed.
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03-26-2013, 11:27 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2006 25' Safari FB SE
Mercer Island
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I love the Bose Soundlink. BT or standard plug to portable player. Sound quality is great, charges with USB plug.
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03-26-2013, 01:16 PM
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retired USA/USAF
2001 30' Excella
Somerset
, New Jersey
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We got a set of speakers that have a plug for the I-pod. Works great. Cordless when necessary. Nice sound. Has re-chargable batteries for when we are without outside power and plugs in and charges itself and the I-pod when we do. There are several of these out there. I forget what brand mine is but it's small enough to store in the drawer under the TV in the Airstream.
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03-26-2013, 09:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 25' Classic
Prescott
, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronman
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The one I have is the Audio Unlimited SPK24G speaker. I did not need a 2 speaker set up for my needs. The sound is very good for the price.
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03-26-2013, 10:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronman
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I have the answer to your vexing problem...iPod and earphones! You can get an earful of your tunes and avoid the earful of your dear wife. I will deny authoring that statement, should I ever be subpoenaed into court for the divorce proceeding. Hahaha
I think your proposed setup sounds great!
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03-26-2013, 11:16 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Rancho Murieta
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Phrunes,
I just fell out of my chair!! The earphones can be a multi-purpose aid!! Plus...I'll never hear it coming!!
Humor is a great thing!!
Thanks again!!
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03-26-2013, 11:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Ronman,
I have five kids...I have earphones surgically attached to my head. I figured the alternative; a straightjacket, would have restricted my arm movements and I would not be able to work on my airstream.
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03-27-2013, 08:58 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 27' Safari FB SE
Rancho Murieta
, California
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Phrunes...
Sounds like you could use the counsel of a quality pharmacist too! No…Wait…then you couldn’t work on your Airstream either!! Earphones!! That’s the ticket!!
Love your humor, my friend!!
R
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03-28-2013, 10:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronman
phrunes,
i just fell out of my chair!! The earphones can be a multi-purpose aid!! Plus...i'll never hear it coming!!
Humor is a great thing!!
Thanks again!!
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2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
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03-28-2013, 10:58 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2006 31' Classic
Archer
, Florida
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 303
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phrunes
Bluetooth and a Sonos or Bose system.
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Agree- we have the Bose wireless speaker and connect with Bluetooth to our IPhone- great sound for a little box and gets plenty loud for any campground.
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