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10-22-2008, 04:16 PM
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Mini Rivet
1975 25' Tradewind
Holland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 273
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1966 GlobeTrotter, so sad, what should I offer for it?
Hello,
I finally have a reason to post, my first one.
I have been lurking for awhile and recently joined, I have been looking for a 1959 to 1964 Safari twin, my wife and I want something small but it also needs to sleep 5, don't care if it has a bath or not.
Anyway ran across this today a 1966 Globe Trotter, according to the current owner it as sat in this spot for the last 20 years.
The shell is in near perfect condition, all glass is there, the inside although complete is bad, the rear vent cover is missing and it has leak for a long time, to bad to because the floor is solid everywhere but in front of the fridge to the street side edge.
I like the idea of buying a trailer that needs to be gutted, unless I can find a Safari twin I'll need to gut it anyway to accommodated sleeping for 5.
My question is what should I offer for this and what is it worth in its current condition?
Photo's 1966 Globe Trotter - a set on Flickr
Bruce
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10-22-2008, 04:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Welcome to the forums!
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmklawt
My question is what should I offer for this and what is it worth in its current condition?
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As little as possible. Unfortunately, from the looks of it, there is probably more wrong with it than you can tell at first glance...
Use this as a guide: Price vs. Condition - Airstream Values
Good luck if you decide to go for it!
Shari
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10-22-2008, 04:51 PM
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Mini Rivet
1975 25' Tradewind
Holland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 273
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Redo or resell
Thanks for the info.
I have been studying the price vs condition guide but $1100.00 seems like to much. I would assume the whole floor needs to be replaced maybe even a shelf off redo and new everthing else.
If it is cheap enough I could afford to fix it myself or resell and puts funds towards a Safari.
I was thinking of offering $600.00
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10-22-2008, 05:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2001 30' Excella
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 838
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My knee jerk response to the photos was $500. Additionally, since it has sat for so long, you will have to replace the running gear, tires, etc... The good thing is that it is complete and the smaller units bring a higher dollar amount when they are restored.
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10-22-2008, 05:05 PM
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Rivet Master
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,341
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Yikes! That's a total gut job.. did you see that mouse nest in the rear? I'm sure there's more somewhere else too!
Yuk! Considering what you'd have to do... yes, $600 seems about right.
Marc
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10-22-2008, 05:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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I wouldn't count on fixing it and reselling it for a profit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmklawt
Thanks for the info.
I have been studying the price vs condition guide but $1100.00 seems like to much. I would assume the whole floor needs to be replaced maybe even a shelf off redo and new everthing else.
If it is cheap enough I could afford to fix it myself or resell and puts funds towards a Safari.
I was thinking of offering $600.00
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Rarely will you get profit out of a "good restoration", most restore &/or customize them for their own use looking at it as a hobby or "pay as you go" proposition. The best advice is to find what you want in the best condition possible as your budget allows. It'll always cost more to fix it up yourself than if someone else already did. Same could be said about classic cars, boats or ???
But FWIW, $5-600 looks about right to me too. The premium price is because the smaller vintage trailers are very desirable, more so than their larger counterparts.
Shari
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10-22-2008, 06:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
Currently Looking...
Great Lake State
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,480
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bmklawt
Hello,
I finally have a reason to post, my first one.
I have been lurking for awhile and recently joined, I have been looking for a 1959 to 1964 Safari twin, my wife and I want something small but it also needs to sleep 5, don't care if it has a bath or not.
Anyway ran across this today a 1966 Globe Trotter, according to the current owner it as sat in this spot for the last 20 years.
The shell is in near perfect condition, all glass is there, the inside although complete is bad, the rear vent cover is missing and it has leak for a long time, to bad to because the floor is solid everywhere but in front of the fridge to the street side edge.
I like the idea of buying a trailer that needs to be gutted, unless I can find a Safari twin I'll need to gut it anyway to accommodated sleeping for 5.
My question is what should I offer for this and what is it worth in its current condition?
Photo's 1966 Globe Trotter - a set on Flickr
Bruce
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I would pass on this one, even if it was free.
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10-22-2008, 06:13 PM
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Mini Rivet
1975 25' Tradewind
Holland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 273
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I just wanted to offer a fare price, don't want to get screwed or screw someone else.
If I bought it for resale it would be as it is now, I might take out the carpet.
If I refinish it, it will be for what I need for camping, the resale won't matter at that point as I would be keeping it for some time. After 10 years I could remodel again for camping just for my wife and I.
FYI: I would like a Safari twin but haven't seen one I could afford yet, I would like to modify a Safari to have 6 bunks. My intention would be to do this to the GlobeTotter if I get it.
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10-22-2008, 06:21 PM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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, At Large
Join Date: Jun 2003
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$500 seems like around what it is worth. I noticed there is what looks like a bicycle rack welded on the back bumper. Added to that, it looks like the left side of the trailer is almost resting on the ground. I would count extensive frame repairs into any cost estimates, and consider flatbedding the trailer out of its current location.
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10-22-2008, 06:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,478
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What "overlander63" said..
Put it under cover and, take stock of what you have.
Here's a link to a 64GT that I once owned and, how nicely it turned out.
You can get some idea of the detailed work involved.
about - airstream renovation pics
Be sure to watch the short video clip of the lifting of the shell..
Good Luck~!
53FC
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10-22-2008, 07:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Wow!
Quote:
Originally Posted by bmklawt
FYI: I would like a Safari twin but haven't seen one I could afford yet, I would like to modify a Safari to have 6 bunks. My intention would be to do this to the GlobeTotter if I get it.
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6 people in a GlobeTrotter...yikes!
We have a '64 GT (19' instead of 20') and 2 adults is cozy ~ I can't imagine 2 adults & 3-4 kids! I can't even imagine how you would get 6 bunks in there...would you remove the bathroom?
Shari
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10-23-2008, 06:26 AM
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Mini Rivet
1975 25' Tradewind
Holland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 273
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Yep 5 people in a Globe Trotter, this thing is huge compared to our 10' popup.
I most likely would remove the bath and put 6 bunks in the rear, we have a shower/bath in the popup but have only used it twice. We like them small because we go where no camper should be allowed to go and all we do in them is sleep and wait for the rain to stop
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10-23-2008, 09:34 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Greeeneville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,301
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IMHO, it would be wise to look for a Safari for the room and hopefully you'll locate a trailer needing less restoration.
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10-23-2008, 01:08 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 20' Globetrotter
Sauquoit
, New York
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 638
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1967 Globetrotter 20 feet
We are two and very comfortable. More people...I don't think so. Aria
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11-10-2008, 07:05 PM
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Mini Rivet
1975 25' Tradewind
Holland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 273
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From bad to worse
Well the guy selling the GT told me he'd sell it for scrap price, went to see him today to see if he had come up with a price yet, said he hadn't. He informed me he is going to give it to his brother who is going to make a deer blind out of it. He wished me a good day, told me how rotten the weather was and then closed the door on me.
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11-10-2008, 07:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 31' Sovereign
1967 22' Safari
1958 22' World Traveler
Pardeeville
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 569
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Im sorry to hear that the owner was like that...But, maybe its just as well...this may have been more work than you anticipated...
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WBCCI #10917
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04-02-2010, 10:10 PM
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Mini Rivet
1975 25' Tradewind
Holland
, Michigan
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 273
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I finally got it
Was deleting phone numbers from my cell phone and ran across this guys number again and thought what the hell I'll call.
I called and left a message saying I would give him $600.00 it he still had the trailer and then deleted his number. Two days later he called and said I could have it, I promptly when to his house and paid for it.
This was missing the rear roof vent for many years and the carpet that was in there was still soaking wet when I took it out and we have not had rain for weeks. I took the carper out and have had a dehumidifier running for two days and its getting pretty dry in there but the amazing thing is the bottom of all the cupboards are rotted out but I can find no rot in the floor except for a few inches in front of the door. It does smell real bad.
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04-02-2010, 10:22 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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With all that moisture for all that time, I would count on having mold between the inner and outer panels in the trailer. Need all those inner panels off to get that out.
Major work to come, but I wish you well with it. You sounds just stubborn enough to make it all work.
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04-02-2010, 10:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Portland
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 685
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Nice rescue! You are to be commended.
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04-02-2010, 11:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
Trotwood
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,153
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Looks like ya got alot of work to do there Pilgrim. At least the price was rite.
Great Find Nice Rescue.
Good Luck
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7.3 liter Power Stroke Diesel
1977 27ft OVERLANDER
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