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02-04-2017, 02:42 PM
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TetonStreamer
2021 27' Flying Cloud
Delaplane
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 140
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2017 OEM Rear Camera Option
Buying a 2017 23 FB, does anyone have experience with the Airstream rear camera that is offered as an installed option? Is it worth it? Off the shelf better? What does it connect to for a screen?
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Wilson, WY 83014
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02-04-2017, 03:27 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 28' International
Perry
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 104
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I had the Voyager rear camera installed by my dealer, about three months after purchase.
It is great. Going down the highway, you can see what is behind your trailer before you change lanes.
It is also nice, because it has a microphone built into the camera so you can hear the person in back, when you are backing into a spot. i turn the volume off going down the road so you do not hear the wind noise.
There is a slight delay in the screen updates on mine. Once you know that, not a problem. Comparing the mirror with the monitor screen keeps you on top of what is around.
John
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02-04-2017, 03:54 PM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Venice
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,024
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Voyager is an excellent camera. Mine is aftermarket but I understand the factory option camera is comparable in cost including labor. I find it extremely helpful while traveling on the interstate & backing in. Good investment, worth the money!
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Venice, FL
2016 FC 25RTB
TAC FL-47
2018 Nissan Titan XD Cummins Diesel
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02-04-2017, 08:54 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 23' Flying Cloud
Goodyear
, Arizona
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 55
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I have purchased a voyager backup camera. Is there any available information regarding locating the previously mentioned prewire? I was thinking I would either have to get under the middle marker light or route the wires into my 23d's locker over the corner bed. Now that there is a prewire it would make installation easier.
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02-04-2017, 09:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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I just purchased a 2017 FC 23D with the camera option. I love it. It doesn't have a delay and helps me see what's going on in back, making lane changes easier, and also backing up better.
I had to adjust mine after I got it, as the factory/dealer had it aiming way to low. In order to get it to show down the road away, I had to remove two of the side screws. Each side of the camera has three screws. I had to take the two further ones out, leaving just one in the center to allow me to swivel the camera to get a good downstream angle. It works great though. Highly recommend.
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02-04-2017, 09:50 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 23' Flying Cloud
Goodyear
, Arizona
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 55
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Troutboy
When you adjusted the camera was there any sign of/attempts at sealing the camera from water?
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02-04-2017, 11:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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Doc, I'll take a few pics and post tomorrow.
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02-05-2017, 09:23 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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Here are a few pics. The first shows that it looks like a rubber gasket of some sorts is used. I could t tell if they used a sealant and didn't want to take it off.
The second picture is of the side screw I mentioned. Tough to see due to sun. But you can see the single screw, one in each side. When you remove the others it swivels more.
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02-05-2017, 10:03 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 23' Flying Cloud
Goodyear
, Arizona
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 55
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A grommetdesigned to fit in a three-quarter inch hole comes with the camera kit. I think that's what you see in the large hole in the center of the base. But is there also what appears to be a closed cell foam layer between the base and the airstream just like they do with the marker lights?
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02-05-2017, 12:49 PM
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Reads a lot
2017 30' Classic
Titusville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,209
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Troutboy- I need to adjust my camera as well and just haven't gotten around to doing it yet. Was it terribly difficult? Did you need any special tools. Full timing and not a lot of tool options but if I knew what you used I could go get them. Thanks for the help.
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02-05-2017, 01:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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All you need is an Allen Wrench. I don't know what size, the camera came with one, it was in the box the dealer gave me.
It's super easy:
1. Use Allen Wrench to loosen all set screws, 3 each side
2. Remove two screws from each side completely, leaving the center screw loose.
3. Adjust camera, tighten two center screws by hand.
4. Go Check camera on monitor, if good tighten with Allen wrench
5. If not good, Loosen center screws and adjust, keep checking until it is at the angle you want
6. Tighten center screws with Allen Wrench real,tight.
Note. Better picture below. You can see the center set screw, it's a hex. You can also see two "tracks" where I removed the other two screws. I had to remove mine, because when I rotated the camera to the angle I wanted, the screw holes in the camera were not accessible/visible. Depending on how the factory installed the camera, you may be able to adjust the camera and still use the other two screws I removed.
You can see on mine, the holes are visible, but when I inserted the screws they would not fit. If I moved the camera angle to fit the screws, the angle was too low.
I have only put 100 miles on it, but the camera seems fine with just the two center screws and is not moving
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02-05-2017, 03:33 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 27' International
Somewhere it snows
, Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 71
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Troutboy
All you need is an Allen Wrench. I don't know what size, the camera came with one, it was in the box the dealer gave me.
It's super easy:
1. Use Allen Wrench to loosen all set screws, 3 each side
2. Remove two screws from each side completely, leaving the center screw loose.
3. Adjust camera, tighten two center screws by hand.
4. Go Check camera on monitor, if good tighten with Allen wrench
5. If not good, Loosen center screws and adjust, keep checking until it is at the angle you want
6. Tighten center screws with Allen Wrench real,tight.
Note. Better picture below. You can see the center set screw, it's a hex. You can also see two "tracks" where I removed the other two screws. I had to remove mine, because when I rotated the camera to the angle I wanted, the screw holes in the camera were not accessible/visible. Depending on how the factory installed the camera, you may be able to adjust the camera and still use the other two screws I removed.
You can see on mine, the holes are visible, but when I inserted the screws they would not fit. If I moved the camera angle to fit the screws, the angle was too low.
I have only put 100 miles on it, but the camera seems fine with just the two center screws and is not moving
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Could the bracket be installed upside down? Seems that when keeping the three screws in their respective curved holes it could rotate pretty extremely pointing back at the trailer.
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02-05-2017, 04:08 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2021 30' Globetrotter
East Northport
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 141
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airdream99
Could the bracket be installed upside down? Seems that when keeping the three screws in their respective curved holes it could rotate pretty extremely pointing back at the trailer.
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You may be right. Here's how mine was mounted.
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02-05-2017, 07:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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Hmmm, might be. I may try flipping it. It's working now, and I might not want to mess with the water proofing etc. thanks for the idea though.
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02-06-2017, 01:52 AM
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Reads a lot
2017 30' Classic
Titusville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2016
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I will be watching this thread closely before I try to adjust my camera. I really do need to get this done as my current view only allows be to see about 10 feet behind me. I trailered way back in the 70s and a little in the 80s before the invention of rear cameras so it is possible but having the camera provide a better view would sure be nice.
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02-06-2017, 06:09 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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I would adjust it as soon as you can. It's easy, even if you do it the way I did and have just one center screw.
The difference is night and day when you have it adjusted right. Mine was like what you said, and it was useless, maybe a little help for backing in.
Now I can see the horizon behind, make lane changes safer, see when cars are coming up on me, etc.
Easy adjustment and adds to safety right away.
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02-06-2017, 06:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Florence
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kendrick.l.j
I will be watching this thread closely before I try to adjust my camera. I really do need to get this done as my current view only allows be to see about 10 feet behind me. I trailered way back in the 70s and a little in the 80s before the invention of rear cameras so it is possible but having the camera provide a better view would sure be nice.
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I got the camera option with delivery of my AS from factory. I decided to adjust mine also to see more of what was behind me. Very easy to do as others have said I took out two screws on each side leaving one on each and that allowed the camera to look back more. One screw on each side is quite sufficient to hold camera in place.
I do notice that objects behind appear farther back than they are so have to take that into account. Wish I could change lens to get better depth view, but having this camera is essential in driving to me.
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02-07-2017, 02:46 AM
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Reads a lot
2017 30' Classic
Titusville
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2016
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Ok, will be removing two screws on either side as described by others but apprehensive. Just seems wrong and there must be a better solution than trashing four screws on a perfectly new mounting. If the manufacturer thought two screws was sufficient to safety secure the device then why did they use 6??? Got to be a better way...
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02-07-2017, 08:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Parker
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,772
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You might still be able to get all 6 screws in. Depends on how the tracks are lined up. Loosen all 6 and see if the radius will allow you to adjust.
Loosen screws adjust camera. If angle good. Tighten all 6. If angle not good and you need to adjust further, then you have to remove the screws.
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