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01-19-2010, 04:22 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,107
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If that support is in the center as mine was. It did not go the entire length of the trailer. There was not one over the black tank and they support the floor. The way I mounted my grey it was below that support so that I could insulate between the floor and the top of the tank.
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01-19-2010, 04:29 PM
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#242
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverHoot
If that support is in the center as mine was. It did not go the entire length of the trailer. There was not one over the black tank and they support the floor. The way I mounted my grey it was below that support so that I could insulate between the floor and the top of the tank.
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How did you handle putting the belly pan back on? Dropping the tank below the support would put the tank well below the level of the current belly pan location.
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01-19-2010, 04:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,107
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You're right it will hang below the belly pan. Check out FLYNCLD's install here.
Airstream Forums - 1962 Flying Cloud Eco-Friendly Reconstruction
Mine will be very similar to this, even though it hangs lower than the belly pan it will not be lower than the axle.
Hope he doesn't mind!
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01-19-2010, 05:01 PM
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#244
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverHoot
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OK, that helps some. I hate to have the tank hanging, but what can you do? I guess eventually I can attempt to build a belly pan box to cover it up. Right now I just need to get the thing on and working.
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01-19-2010, 10:02 PM
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#245
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
I also managed to refurbish the LP warning plate and reinstall it.
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Teach me how you did this (please!!!)... wow!!!
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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01-20-2010, 07:26 AM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Easy
Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
Teach me how you did this (please!!!)... wow!!!
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This one is easy!
1. Drill out old rivets and remove plate.
2. Clean plate with mineral spirits.
3. Spray paint, wait for paint to completely dry.
4. Use steel wool to remove paint from surface (paint will remain in letters).
5. Reinstall plate.
6. Have a refreshing beverage.
7. Repeat step 6 as necessary.
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01-20-2010, 09:34 AM
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#247
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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And then, the rains came
Rain is forecast for every day I have open to work on the camper for the next week and a half. No good. I still have to get the gray tank in and bumper shortened.
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01-20-2010, 01:37 PM
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#248
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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It never rains but what it pours....
I got out in the rain today having decided that I had the problems worked out. HA. While pulling out the spray on expansion foam insulation the PO had sprayed I discovered-guess what? Hidden by all that crap was the furnace ducting, making the space about 5 inches to narrow.
So, having absolutely no experience with duct work, I am wondering what the argument against putting a reduction piece into the duct at that point to make room for the tank? Or can it even be done? I REALLY need some help on this one.
Maybe some of this stuff?
[IMG]file:///C:/Users/Rodney/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.png[/IMG][IMG]file:///C:/Users/Rodney/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.png[/IMG]
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01-20-2010, 01:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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A step back-in-years?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
... Hidden by all that crap was the furnace ducting, making the space about 5 inches too narrow...
So, having absolutely no experience with duct work, ... I REALLY need some help on this one...
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Apparently, your Airstream's year was the first for below-deck ducting. My ductwork looks like this:
A reduction in the line might not let the potty seat get warm enough (a feature my wife appears to enjoy immensely). Plus, the back tank might not get enough heat.
Tom
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01-20-2010, 01:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
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That expansion foam insulation is factory installed. I had it on the 67 and it was a real SOB to get off. I start to twitch if I think about it too much.
Is your original ducting below the floor? I've seen this on a 65. The 67 was above like TomW.
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
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01-20-2010, 01:57 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
1955 22' Flying Cloud
2021 27' Globetrotter
Gulfport
, Mississippi
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
Well, I'm at least half done......
Made some progress today, polished for a couple hours, repainted part of the name tag and test hung the new rock guard from Vintage Trailer Supply. I am going to polish around the window before I permanently attach the guard. It looks like its going to work great though. I pulled off the front name plate too, I have a new one to put there. Man there was a mess behind that plate.
I got a start on painting the name plate as well. Not sure how to go about painting the really small text and the middle recessed area. But I do like the look of what I have done so far.
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Rodney,
Your work looks great. I was thinking about buying one of these rock guards from VTS since they're back in stock. Did you get the tinted or the clear? Can you see through it & out the back window when towing?
Thanks for your help,
Rick
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01-20-2010, 02:02 PM
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Hair brain idea
It seems that a guy could completely disconnect the old ducting and re-duct using the hose type ducting or something like it. I could run it under the sink, under the bed midships, and then behind the shower/toilet. The gray and black tanks could be ducted. It seems there would be three advantages to this.
1. It makes room for the tank,
2. After forty years, I hate to think what is in the old ducts,
3. This would run the furnace ducting along the same route as the fresh water, presumably adding some extra protection.
Has anyone tried this? How bad a plan is this?
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01-20-2010, 02:07 PM
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#253
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 4,971
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Overlander & Sea
Rodney,
Your work looks great. I was thinking about buying one of these rock guards from VTS since they're back in stock. Did you get the tinted or the clear? Can you see through it & out the back window when towing?
Thanks for your help,
Rick
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I got the tinted one, I haven't towed since installing. I wouldn't think that either would be easy to see through when towing, but I don't know.
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01-20-2010, 02:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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I don't even play a foam expert on TV
Quote:
Originally Posted by silverleeper
That expansion foam insulation is factory installed. I had it on the 67 ...
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What makes you think that? I can't say you're mistaken, but expansion foam is typically a poly-urethane based product, and I thought it was not commonly used until the last 20 years or so ago.
You may very well be right. But since my '67 Airstream had no any spray foam of any kind anywhere, your comment got my attention.
Thanks,
Tom
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01-20-2010, 02:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomW
What makes you think that? I can't say you're mistaken, but expansion foam is typically a poly-urethane based product, and I thought it was not commonly used until the last 20 years or so ago.
You may very well be right. But since my '67 Airstream had no any spray foam of any kind anywhere, your comment got my attention.
Thanks,
Tom
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Curious. Is yours a California or Ohio?
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
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01-20-2010, 02:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverleeper
Curious. Is yours a California or Ohio?
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Ohio.
Tom
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01-20-2010, 02:46 PM
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#257
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,499
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Mine is a California model. After scraping ever inch on the frame I have little doubt that it was factory.
Well Gen Disarray, Is your 68 a California or Ohio model?
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
TCT
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01-20-2010, 02:51 PM
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#258
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Naysayer
1968 24' Tradewind
Russellville
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by silverleeper
Mine is a California model. After scraping ever inch on the frame I have little doubt that it was factory.
Well Gen Disarray, Is your 68 a California or Ohio model?
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Ohio. If it wasn't in my way now I would be for it. I am sure it keeps things warmer and protects the wood. Its just in my way now.
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01-20-2010, 03:01 PM
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#259
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,499
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gen Disarray
Ohio. If it wasn't in my way now I would be for it. I am sure it keeps things warmer and protects the wood. Its just in my way now.
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That blows the different plant theory. TomW I envy the regular fiberglass that you had in your belly pan.
Gen Disarray, That 4" vent hose should work if you can figure out how to connect it to the furnace. They also sell a 4" ridge flexible vent hose that will take a lot more abuse that the one in the photo.
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1973 F-250 4X4 390
1965 Chevy Suburban 454
AIR 6030
WBCCI 4258
TCT
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01-21-2010, 08:23 AM
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#260
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Rivet Master
1967 24' Tradewind
Greenville
, South Carolina
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,107
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Interesting comments about the expansion foam. My California 67 didn't have any in the belly. Had some that a PO had sprayed to fill the rotted floor though!
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