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12-09-2009, 12:47 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 23' Safari
Long Beach
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 6
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Airstream with Pipe Organ
I recently met a woman who had a fascinating Airstream story. It seems her aunt and uncle, Ralph and Nellie Fleming, had a pipe organ built into their
Airstream! They had it from the mid fifties to the mid sixties. They lived in
Washington, and traveled around, with Nellie entertaining people on the organ.
Has anyone ever heard of this trailer? Does it still exist?
Karen in Long Beach, WA
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12-09-2009, 01:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 Argosy 24
Malakoff
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 490
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Hmmm....now a picture of this... I would like to see!
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12-09-2009, 01:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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There was a photo in a Smithsonian article on Airstreams several years that showed a spinet organ, but not a pipe organ. I haven't been able to locate a copy of the Smithsonian article, though.
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Vaughan
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12-09-2009, 03:28 PM
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banjobill
2000 30' Limited
battle ground,
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 516
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pipe organ?
ya know, it runs in my memory that when I first re-located to the Portland, OR area, that Portland has a very large pipe organ constituency. Actually, I want to say that Portland is known as the P.O. capital of the U.S., but will not say it cuz I really don't know. But, my brain has no real reason to make this up, either. So, an AS from Oregon with a pipe organ in it may very well have been a reality, and may reside with some P.O. collector in the area. Hmmmm, I think I will do a minor internet search on this topic...seeya
bill
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12-09-2009, 03:50 PM
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banjobill
2000 30' Limited
battle ground,
, Washington
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 516
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a quick search=zero, almost
well, an I-net search revealed nothing, except my Portland Pipe Organ thought appears to be ill-founded. Nothing new there, right 2air? anyhow, a pipe organ on ANY trailer would by function be an airstream, wouldn't it? now that I think about it, the very early AS had pipe frames and may have qualified as pipe organs just as they were built-hee hee.
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12-09-2009, 07:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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The only article I've seen is the one Vaughan references above. It's in the December 1985 issue of the Smithsonian. Written by Doug Stewart and titled " To Airstreamers, a nomad's life is a good life". Among other things, it talks about then 76 year old Frank Sargent - the inventor of the Porta-Potti. There is a photo of him and his wife seated on the sofa - her name not mentioned - with an organ on the street side. captioned: "The Sargents' 34 foot Airstream was customized to accommodate and electric organ instead of a credenza."
That doesn't mean there wasn't another one out there at some point.
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12-09-2009, 08:21 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Thanks for the Extra Info!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganglin
The only article I've seen is the one Vaughan references above. It's in the December 1985 issue of the Smithsonian. Written by Doug Stewart and titled " To Airstreamers, a nomad's life is a good life". Among other things, it talks about then 76 year old Frank Sargent - the inventor of the Porta-Potti. There is a photo of him and his wife seated on the sofa - her name not mentioned - with an organ on the street side. captioned: "The Sargents' 34 foot Airstream was customized to accommodate and electric organ instead of a credenza."
That doesn't mean there wasn't another one out there at some point.
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That's the article exactly! I remembered the Porta-Potti connection but didn't mention it. Great article. I had given that issue away when I got my first Airstream, the Trade Wind, a couple of years later. I have often wished for a reprint, pdf, or scans of the article.
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12-09-2009, 08:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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I can take in the office and scan it for you.... give me a day or two.
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12-09-2009, 08:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Thanks Again
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganglin
I can take in the office and scan it for you.... give me a day or two.
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Thanks,
I would appreciate it. I had even bounced the topic (complete with spinet organ reference) off Pee Wee, but due to proactive interference I was thinking that "Mr. Thetford" invented the Porti-Potty so I gave misinformation.
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12-10-2009, 12:30 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 23' Safari
Long Beach
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 6
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ARticle
I'd love a copy of the article to share with the woman who told me about it. In 1959 she came to Washington from California with her family to go camping with said aunt and uncle. As a teenager, she thought it was torture!
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12-10-2009, 01:22 AM
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Moderator
1968 17' Caravel
Battle Ground
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,255
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There's a whole community of Airstreamers in Land Yacht Harbor in Lacey, WA. If there's anyone around who might remember that, you would probably find them there. Better ask soon though, the old guard is passing at an alarming rate. You might just give them a call and see if the folks at the desk can do some asking around for you.
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12-10-2009, 03:26 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefrobrts
There's a whole community of Airstreamers in Land Yacht Harbor in Lacey, WA. If there's anyone around who might remember that, you would probably find them there. Better ask soon though, the old guard is passing at an alarming rate. You might just give them a call and see if the folks at the desk can do some asking around for you.
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While your at it - maybe you could ask them for me if they ever put out a cookbook. I just acquired one titled "Recipes for Land and Sea Cruising, your Travelin' cookbook." By: Washington Unit of the WBCCI. The recipes are all signed but there is no date of publication....
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12-10-2009, 03:57 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
2019 27' Tommy Bahama
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,347
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I had forgotten all about the electric organ installed in the Airstreams. The first customer I can picture I cannot remember his name at the moment but we removed the credenza in his 71 31' and installed an electric organ. We had a picture of it up on the wall at the store and wound up installing a few more over the years including Frank Sergent's.
Frank first invented the plastic dump valve in 1963 before that dump valves were brass, you can just imagine how that would have worked. The next thing was the plastic toilet valve and toilet. The portapoti he invented later but he built them all over the world. Frank was also the driving force behind the series of China Caravans in the late 80's.
Andrew T
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12-10-2009, 05:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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Smithsonian December 1985 Article
Here is a copy of the article mentioned above. Enjoy....
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12-10-2009, 05:38 PM
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Moderator
Vintage Kin Owner
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Well I'll be...........An electric organ in an Airstream.
Good article.
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12-10-2009, 05:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1957 26' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Saint Augustine
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2009
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I guess since I have an old pipe frame I know what I can recycle it into ;-) ha ha!
Can you imagine the acoustics inside an Airstream? It would be like living inside a speaker! I actually know of a boat that has an organ onboard, so why not. This forum gets more and more interesting everyday!
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12-10-2009, 06:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2010 25' FB Flying Cloud
Davenport
, Iowa
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,148
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PLEASE, end this thread before my wife sees it. She thinks that we have to carry her full keyboard and amp and speakers in our 25 foot. She says we'll never know when someone wants to do a sing along at the campfire.
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12-10-2009, 07:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,825
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Great Article
Thanks so much Gary!
It's as much fun as I remembered.
From now on, I'm going to respectfully refer all questions about satellite dishes to the photo on page 77.
I remembered the photo at Mont-Saint-Michel too. Check out the tow vehicles in that shot.
Arggh!!! Now I'm really jealous. Not only do they have an organ, the curbside window in front of the door in the door opens. Some friends have that option (the window, not the organ) and I really wish I did.
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12-10-2009, 09:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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Your Welcome
Glad you enjoyed it... your window next to the door doesn't open - which of your Airstreams?
Anyone know if the symbol on the roof locker above their heads, in the Sargent's' trailer, is something normal for that unit. Don't believe I've ever seen that before....
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12-10-2009, 09:31 PM
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Site Team
1974 31' Sovereign
Ottawa
, ON
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 11,219
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew T
We had a picture of it up on the wall at the store and wound up installing a few more over the years including Frank Sergent's.
Frank first invented the plastic dump valve in 1963 before that dump valves were brass, you can just imagine how that would have worked. The next thing was the plastic toilet valve and toilet. The portapoti he invented later but he built them all over the world. Frank was also the driving force behind the series of China Caravans in the late 80's.
Andrew T
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Andy,
Frank is mentioned in the .pdf of the Smithsonian article in Ganglin's post right after yours. Makes for great reading.
Thanks, Ganglin!
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