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Old 02-04-2015, 05:53 PM   #29
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Size of fuel tank--If the 1 ton comes with a bigger fuel tank this could be important.

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Old 02-04-2015, 06:13 PM   #30
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Hmm...what do you think about towing with a 3/4 or 1 ton van? GMC still makes those. Their Savana model might be just the ticket.

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Old 02-05-2015, 12:03 AM   #31
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I just took the jump - ordered in December and awaiting delivery in a week or so. We bought a 2014 Classic 27FB (9,000GVW) last Spring and did two Mississippi - Vermont round trips and a quick trip to the Gulf using my 2001 Dodge 2500 4/4 Ton 4x4 with a Cummins diesel and 5 spd stick tranny. It pulled like a charm and rode like a farm truck - because that is what I originally bought it to be. So, inasmuch as we do no farming but hope to do a lot of 'streaming, a new TV was decided upon.

After looking at all 3 - Ford, Chevy and Dodge 3/4 tons and 1 tons - all comparably equipped with diesels (except that the Dodge still offers a standard shift, which I greatly prefer!) we settled of a 2015 Dodge Laramie 3500 SRW 4x4 with Crew Cab and 8' box. There are a couple of trim levels above the Laramie, but heated/cooled leather seats were fine by me, I didn't need them to be embroidered for an extra $6,000.

Of the three diesels, I really preferred the Cummins. My old one has given me 110,000 miles with nothing more than changing the oil and filters. And, since I like to do my own oil and filter changes, the straight-six Cummins is MUCH easier to tinker with than the V8 Fords and Chevys. I've gotten good mileage (21 mpg empty, 15mpg towing the AS), but that may drop a bit as the new Cummins is larger than my '01. For all its "bells and whistles", the Ram also had the best price. Window sticker reads $60,500 MSRP, but we shook hands on a little over $53k

As for the bed, since the main purpose of this truck will be as an AS TV, I wanted something to handle the weight and space of tools, generator, and all the other things that one wants to bring on cross-country or long-term camping - and have them secure and easy to get to. I even considered ordering a cab and chassis with a utility box so I would have easy to reach and lockable compartments. Instead, I've ordered a "pickup pack" with a bed roller from Highway Products. Same convenience and security - about $10,000 cheaper than a utility box on a C&C.


Even the dealer is excited about my new TV - he's trying to get the sales manager to get them to be the local rep for Highway Products - and told me he's going to take a lot of pictures of my rig when we get it all set up. I expect that I will get a lot of questions as well, between the Airstream and the "pimp my ride" Ram.

If you're not already sold on the Chevy, take a look at the Dodge - they impressed me enough to make the jump!


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Old 02-05-2015, 05:01 AM   #32
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:36 AM   #33
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:09 AM   #34
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To fuel tank size, Ford Super Duty Diesel come with 26 gallon tank, NO option from the factory for larger. Titan does make an aftermarket 50 gallon tank which I have not gone to yet, or if. Some people are having issues with re-programming of the computer to determine how much fuel is remaining with new tank installed, computer still thinks it's got a 26 Gallon tank. We stop every two hours anyway to exercise my back so probably will stay with 26 gallons.

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Old 02-05-2015, 10:57 AM   #35
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Be sure to check all of the big three in tow vechels
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:23 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by Adiredneck;1577170


that is going to one slick setup. Lookes very versatile.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:35 PM   #37
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Tank size

Originally Posted by paiceman View Post
To fuel tank size, Ford Super Duty Diesel come with 26 gallon tank, NO option from the factory for larger. Titan does make an aftermarket 50 gallon tank which I have not gone to yet, or if. Some people are having issues with re-programming of the computer to determine how much fuel is remaining with new tank installed, computer still thinks it's got a 26 Gallon tank. We stop every two hours anyway to exercise my back so probably will stay with 26 gallons.

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Went with the Titan 50 gallon tank on our 2011 F250 Super Duty Diesel last summer. Was shipped to the dealer and installed. Computer reprogrammed and have had no issues with showing miles to empty and gallons remaining. We like to stop at Flying J's or Loves - refueling is a breeze and DEF is available. Now the range exceeds 600 miles. Nice not having to always be looking for fuel stops as with the 26 gal. tank.
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Old 02-05-2015, 04:07 PM   #38
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My 2015 F350 Supercrew 6.7 8ft box single rear wheel has a 37.5 gallon tank (my 2012 did also).
1.Aux heater is a must in cold climate.
2.Platinum package gives you a heated wheel that is activated automatically along with the heated seats when remote start is used.But a big thing is "real leather" that is more durable than than the pleather that comes with the Lariat package is included with Platinum and King Ranch Pack.You get your money back for the Platinum pak when you trade or sell the truck.
3.No difference in ride between F250-F350 as the spring pack is the same on both trucks with the exception of the overload spring that comes with the f350it only comes into play when you have a very heavy load.Price difference is $200.My truck has the optional 11000 gvw pak and the ride with the trailer attached is better than my 2010 F150.Unloaded it also rides smooth more firm than the F150 but I personally like it better.Not harsh like the old 3/4 and 1 tons used to ride.
4.Off road package is a joke with Chinese made Rancho branded shocks that have no rebound when new.Do not order this.
5.2012-2013 had anemic brakes and Ford upgraded them for 2014-2015.In 2015 they changed the turbo's and fuel delivery system and the trucks are much quieter overall.
6.Navigation's backup camera now has a magnify mode which makes hooking up a breeze. Real time radar that is included has saved me more than once from big hail and ice.I will now not be without this.
7.The 20 inch wheels and e rated tires do not ever scrub on the Ford's
8.You will pay almost as much for a 2013-2014 as a new one after incentives so be careful.Most people make the mistake of not exploring the new trucks and end up paying almost the same and sometimes more for the used one.If you buy a used one get the Ford extended service contract and not a aftermarket one
9.I have used a Lund locking tonneau for years with good results and a plastic bed liner for resale.Weathertech mudflaps fit the best and protect your Airstream.

I trade it off at 39500 miles and have found it to be the sweet spot.I will not go back to a F150,they are nice but for me they don't fit the bill.

Leasing is not a good idea for Airstreamers that put over 10000 miles per year on.Due to the high resale of trucks in general it does not compute.

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Old 02-05-2015, 04:27 PM   #39
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Paula, go with Kenworth or Peterbuilt.
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Old 02-05-2015, 06:58 PM   #40
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Re electric trailer mirrors ....

We have trailer mirrors on our 2500HD diesel but they are just manual ones. To be honest, with our wide body Classic, many a time I forget to pull them out at all, and the difference in rearward visibility with them in or out seems very little!

If I have forgotten to pull them out, I generally wait until the the next fuel stop to pull them out - if I remember, and sometimes don't bother at all!

I almost wonder if I should just put back the regular standard heated / remote adjustable mirrors that came with the truck an have never been used since I bought it!

We are very pleased with the vehicle as a tow vehicle - it is our first diesel. Nice as it is though, I'm not really sure I would spring for the extra cash to buy the diesel though.

Nice to have and the torque is great. Working 34 years on the railroad I like the sound too! But for the extra $$, I could probably charge up hills with a bit less gusto and not worry about it!

I'm sure that in our case, the slightly better fuel mileage nowhere near covers the premium cost of the diesel engine and higher cost of diesel fuel vs. gas.

If trading trucks though, I have to admit I would still be tempted to go with the diesel!

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Old 02-05-2015, 09:02 PM   #41
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Wow... maybe you can spend all your $$ =) buy one each?

How long before you 'decide'?
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:42 PM   #42
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USED - great deal, good fit!

Just talked to a local GM dealer - they have a 2012 3/4 ton diesel that even has a bed slide. Prior owner sold it back to dealership after he became disabled. Have there been any huge improvements since 2012 in the diesel... and does the 2012 need DEF?


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