View Poll Results: What computer do you use?
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50.42% |
Mac
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54.02% |
Other
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11-01-2007, 11:19 PM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
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The reason I switched to Mac recently is because I was just tired of the way windows does things. Genuine Advantage, spyware, virus software and definition updates, constant scanning. I just got board with it.
Since being on the Mac I'm having fun on the computer again. Partly because so much to learn but also there is nothing getting in the way of just doing what I want. No need to nurse the OS along.
For those who need help deciding, maybe this will help :-)
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11-02-2007, 05:26 AM
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#222
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Rivet Master
1997 34' Limited
Young Harris
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 981
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Safari Tim
The reason I switched to Mac recently is because I was just tired of the way windows does things. Genuine Advantage, spyware, virus software and definition updates, constant scanning. I just got board with it.
Since being on the Mac I'm having fun on the computer again. Partly because so much to learn but also there is nothing getting in the way of just doing what I want. No need to nurse the OS along.
For those who need help deciding, maybe this will help :-)
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I like PCs, but have issues with the OS (MacroShaft). I have played with Linux, but on the cheap equipment I have, no dice...
I like much of the Mac stuff, but hate the attitude ("it's intuitive"? Not it is not intuitive at all unless you learn it first...that's not intuitive.)
Stupid icons always grate on my nerves too...why not use words? And that's not unique to Mac either.
I saw another U-Tube video that cracked me up... .
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Phil and/or Sue w/ Cheryl & Annie and Stuart
(Buffett RIP 9/15/08, Gus RIP 12/22/15)(Roger RIP 12/30/20, Penny RIP 6/14/21)
1997 34' Excella WBCCI 5936
'09 Dodge Cummins Ram 3500 Crew 4x4 auto
AIR 1753
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11-03-2007, 09:19 PM
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#224
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,570
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil and/or Sue
I like PCs, but have issues with the OS (MacroShaft). I have played with Linux, but on the cheap equipment I have, no dice...
I like much of the Mac stuff, but hate the attitude ("it's intuitive"? Not it is not intuitive at all unless you learn it first...that's not intuitive.)
Stupid icons always grate on my nerves too...why not use words? And that's not unique to Mac either.
I saw another U-Tube video that cracked me up... .
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Hmmm.... I wonder what version of the Mac OS that video is referring to? Bears no resemblance to my Mac, but does describe some of my Windows experiences. I still get to enjoy Windows when I use it with Bootcamp for business reasons.
If your really want to use words rather than icons (which only appeared on the computer scene in the early 1980's so they may be a new learning experience for some), you really should switch to Linux. Unix command line input was the source of the DOS type of command line which it sounds like you wish to have.
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11-04-2007, 01:55 PM
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#225
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Rivet Master
Tonka Bay
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 770
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil and/or Sue
I saw another U-Tube video that cracked me up... .
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That was pretty much tongue in cheek considering he said at the end he put the video together with a Macintosh and closed with, "Mac kills my inner child".
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Davydd
2015 Sprinter Class B Camper Van
(Former 1971 vintage Airstream Owner)
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11-04-2007, 02:25 PM
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#226
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Paul
1979 29' Ambassador
Woodinville
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokelessJoe
My first computer was a Mac SE, about 20 years ago. I’ve never used anything but a Mac.
I’m not a sophisticated user. Essentially writing, recordkeeping, the INTERNET.
I have the latest OS Tiger 10.4.4 on both my iMac desktop and iBook G4 but have not yet explored the wonderful world of all the exclusive Mac features: iTunes, iChat, iMovie,iCal, on and on.
I do use iPhoto in a limited way and wish I had time to explore more.
I am wireless with a Airport Extreme at home and a Airport Express out in the country with the trailer.
For all these 20 plus years I’ve heard others complaining about problems with their PC. Most Mac users will be like me and not understand why they have so many issues. We rarely do.
On the other hand, we have Apple Care. Day or night, 7 days a week, we can call a 1-800 # and talk to a specialist.
Apple makes the machine AND the operating system. There is no equal to this in the world. They have never failed to fix a problem or find out what I was doing wrong.
Steve Jobs, the founder of Apple Computer recently said:
“Don’t let the noise of others’ opinions drown out your own inner voice”
That is likely the main reason they are so far ahead in so many areas.
I hope to remember his advice as I remodel my ARGOSY.
Sergei
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SmokelessJoe
I have an Airstream and am wondering if you have to use an antenna.. because of the all aluminum trailor...
Paul
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11-04-2007, 03:55 PM
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#228
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Rivet Master
Nipomo
, California
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 629
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It's important to understand what a "Trojan" is...
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Originally Posted by CanoeStream
Lack of history doesn't mean Macs are invulnerable. Especially since they're operating Windoze these days! There is a trojan that attacks Macs if you visit websites much less reputable than AIR Forums.[/url]
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A Trojan is a program just like any other program that might be loaded on your system to perform tasks. For a Trojan to work, however, the user must perform several steps that anyone with an IQ over room temperature would not likely perform.
First, you have to download the Trojan app. Then, you have to open it so it can do it's nasty business. People who download apps from untrustworthy or unknown sites and then authorize their use are just asking for trouble.
Notice that a Trojan is not the fault of an operating system and that there is no way to write software to protect against one. Safety rests with the human user. Fortunately, Macs require a deliberate action from users to download, authenticate, and launch an app, all of which protects the computer user.
Be careful out there, but don't think that every vulnerability is either preventable by some third-party security software or that the existence of a vulnerability is some defect in the OS.
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Mike Young & Rosemary Nelson
Bowlus Road Chief "Endymion"
BMW X3 xDrive 28D
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11-04-2007, 07:58 PM
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#229
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Rivet Master
1976 Argosy 24
now being enjoyed by Heath and Mary in
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,432
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Paul:
I suppose you are referring to this part of the post above:
I am wireless with an Airport Extreme at home and an Airport Express out in the country with the trailer.
To clarify, I actually have the Airport Express in my HOUSE in the country. I am renovating the trailer out in the front drive, probably 70 to 100 feet away, but I have taken the iBook out to the remodel from time to time and I do get a weak but mostly useable signal there.
Maybe I should test the signal just outside the trailer to see if the aluminum makes a difference. (Radio signals are seriously affected by the aluminum shell)
I am not a sophisticated Mac user so I didn’t even know about antennas until this thread appeared.
They’re one more new thing I’ll have to learn about.
Sergei
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12-26-2007, 06:58 PM
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#230
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2 Rivet Member
2008 22' Safari
Milledgeville
, Georgia
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 22
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Mac all the way !
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12-26-2007, 07:08 PM
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#231
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
1986 31' Sovereign
1975 25' Tradewind
1967 17' Caravel
Sherfield English
, Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 700
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Coming up to 20 years as a Mac user. Started with an SE + 9" Mono screen. I upgraded it to 4 megs of RAM and felt like a king! Lol! It had a GUI better than Windows nearly 10 years before it arrived! Thank God for the return of the Megalomaniac Steve Jobs and that well known toilet designer, Jonathan Ive! Lol! iMacs, iPods, iPhones - brilliant!!
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12-26-2007, 10:01 PM
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#232
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,618
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonstruck
Thank God for the return of the Megalomaniac Steve Jobs and that well known toilet designer, Jonathan Ive! Lol! iMacs, iPods, iPhones - brilliant!!
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If you are a Steve Jobs / istuff fan, you might enjoy this....
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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12-26-2007, 10:17 PM
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#233
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Rivet Master
Nipomo
, California
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 629
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We're lucky to have a son who took my advice and bought Apple stock at about $3.75 a share when Steve Jobs returned. Over time he has sold a bit at peaks and bought back when the price has dipped. His last purchase was a bunch at $59/share. The closing price today was just shy of $200/share.
So what does this budding stock picking genius do with his riches? Also, lucky for us, he buys us Apple gifts to bolster his stock investments. The latest is a fully tricked out iMac with a spectacular 24-inch monitor. I never knew that my pics looked so good until I saw them full screen on this iMac.
Oh, he also threw in an Apple TV. Great kid.
We shipped the old iMac to our granddaughter in Chicago so now we can video iChat with her each day. That's how Apple brings people closer together better than any other company in the business.
Perhaps the most interesting thing to come from sending the iMac to our granddaughter was that her mother has decided to buy herself an iMac too. She's totally disgusted with Vista and she and her husband are tired of purchasing anti-everything software that degrades performance and wastes valuable time. For years, both of them have ignored our suggestions to get a Mac. It took just a week of seeing how easy and intuitive the Mac OS is to convince them that it was time to chuck their Dells. Our daughter works for AT&T and our son-in-law works for IBM. Both are tech savvy but it took a few day using a Mac to bring them out from behind the Iron Curtain.
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Mike Young & Rosemary Nelson
Bowlus Road Chief "Endymion"
BMW X3 xDrive 28D
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12-26-2007, 10:21 PM
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#234
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2 Rivet Member
1970 31' Sovereign
Collierville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 66
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Mac runs on an OLD OS. It was developed on the NeXT computers. Macs also now run the the same hardware with any other PC. They are ok, but so are the BestBuy Pc's. Here is a link for the NeXt pc/mac.
NeXT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Another thing, I don't see Apple on the cutting edge of ANYTHING! Where is thier VOIP, (SIP enabled) system? Where is thier CRM, Exchange, Sharepoint, IIS, SQL, or even thier OWN VM???? You don't see it! Apple isn't a player in the Enterprise network at all!!
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12-26-2007, 10:32 PM
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#235
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1 Rivet Member
1968 20' Globetrotter
Avondale
, Arizona
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 13
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Mac and PC
I'm Mac at home, and free-lance, and PC at work. Used to be Mac and Mac, before that... and Mac at work and PC at home, then before that PC at work and home, and before that nothing at work and PC and Commodore at home. I'll play and work on any platform. I'm currently one of 5 professional Vidiots (spelled video editors) at the largest retail advertising agency in the U.S. However, if pushed to choose only one platform, it would have to be Mac! My fellow editors at work totally disagree with me, but they're Vidiots!
Don In AZ
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12-26-2007, 10:58 PM
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#236
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Rivet Master
Nipomo
, California
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 629
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TN-TUNDRA
Another thing, I don't see Apple on the cutting edge of ANYTHING! Where is thier VOIP, (SIP enabled) system? Where is thier CRM, Exchange, Sharepoint, IIS, SQL, or even thier OWN VM???? You don't see it! Apple isn't a player in the Enterprise network at all!!
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Smart, successful companies learn to pick their battles carefully. Comparative advantage does not mean doing everything yourself or doing what others do. If you don't think Apple is on the cutting edge of anything, perhaps a visit to an Apple store will disabuse you of this opinion. Or, perhaps, MCSEs are not permitted to be disabused of notions instilled by the Lords of Redmond.
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Mike Young & Rosemary Nelson
Bowlus Road Chief "Endymion"
BMW X3 xDrive 28D
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12-27-2007, 06:53 AM
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#237
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Classic 30
Sum Wear
, Ohio
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I have always wondered how the number crunching capabilities compared between the PC and MAC. On my PC, the poll results add up to exactly 100%. Just curious, what do the poll results total for you MAC owners?
Thanks
Dale
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2500HD DMax............30' Classic
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12-27-2007, 08:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
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Join Date: May 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TN-TUNDRA
I don't see Apple on the cutting edge of ANYTHING!
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What, since Windows copied the Mac OS? What about everything that starts with "i"? iMac, iPod, iPhone. Yup, nothing new there.
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12-27-2007, 09:06 AM
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#239
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam
What, since Windows copied the Mac OS? What about everything that starts with "i"? iMac, iPod, iPhone. Yup, nothing new there.
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It was all copied from Xerox.
The History of Apple Computers
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Jim N5TJZ Air# 174
2012 International Serenity 28
2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
2011 F150 Ecoboost
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12-27-2007, 09:21 AM
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#240
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TN-TUNDRA
Mac runs on an OLD OS. It was developed on the NeXT computers. Macs also now run the the same hardware with any other PC. They are ok, but so are the BestBuy Pc's. Here is a link for the NeXt pc/mac.
NeXT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Another thing, I don't see Apple on the cutting edge of ANYTHING! Where is thier VOIP, (SIP enabled) system? Where is thier CRM, Exchange, Sharepoint, IIS, SQL, or even thier OWN VM???? You don't see it! Apple isn't a player in the Enterprise network at all!!
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I am an MCSE and have no problems with Apple. I will order an IMAC after the first of the year. I currently own a Mac Cube, a NeXt (Cube and Slab Version), and whole bunch of SE’s and 128’s (Collectable). I at one time had a Lisa Network. BTW today is my last day at work I am retiring form managing a very large secure network with nothing but DELL workstations and servers. Any good network manager can work cross platform with out getting into a contest on which is better.
All operating systems evolve and you may be the only person who has referred to Leopard as an old operating system. Now CPM, TOS, and about 20 others I can think of might be considered old or no longer supported.
As a side note my older brother has an Apple 1 with a letter from Steve Jobs apologizing for how bad it runs.
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2012 International Serenity 28
2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
2011 F150 Ecoboost
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