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06-28-2007, 12:59 PM
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3 Rivet Member 
2007 34' Classic
Pecos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 124
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Or the one with the guy lying on the floor with a "fatal error" Been there done that!!
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Pecos Pete
Cow Creek, NM
'07 34' Classic
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06-28-2007, 01:12 PM
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#142
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Rivet Master 
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,422
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vswingfield
On another note, I realize that there is no Autocad for Mac, but I just bought TurboCAD for Mac. Am just starting to learn it.
Vaughan
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This is what made me switch from Apple to PC back in the early 80's. I needed to operate Autocad. Mac had nothing for Architecture, other than MiniCad, which at the time was woefully inadequate. MiniCad has evolve to Vectorworks, which is a great programme. It may be worth looking into, if you are interested in a full-function draughting programme. It has always been available for Mac and is also available for PC. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than Autocad, too!
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Cameron & the Labradors, Kai & Samm
North Vancouver, BC
Live! Life's a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death! - Mame Dennis
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06-28-2007, 01:35 PM
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#143
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Rivet Master 
Nipomo
, California
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 629
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Aluminum beats Titanium...
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Originally Posted by cameront120
I thought they were "Titanium".
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The aluminum-bodied Apple laptops are substantially stronger than the earlier titanium-bodied ones. Perhaps the best way to see the difference is to view the screen while pressing the cover with a finger. With the titanium, you will see a "pooling" effect around the depression. With the aluminum, you will have to press so hard that your better judgement will cause you to stop before damaging the cover. The gauge of the aluminum is heavier than that of the titanium on the laptops.
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Mike Young & Rosemary Nelson
Bowlus Road Chief "Endymion"
BMW X3 xDrive 28D
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06-28-2007, 02:09 PM
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#144
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,475
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I dunno, we had a kid throw the Ti laptop across the room, broke one of the screen mounts, but it was fully functional and had no other dents, etc.
Kids drop our G4 Powerbooks that are alum, and they crush like a beer can if hit at the right angle. Too bad Apple doesn't build a Mac version of this, then there would be no worries at all:
Toughbook Laptop Computers from Panasonic
Be great for the education market.....
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Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq and millions of others are by far the most popular with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form. -NY Times 11/91
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06-28-2007, 02:23 PM
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#145
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3 Rivet Member 
2007 34' Classic
Pecos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 124
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If you need to run a PC application on a Mac, take a look at Parallels. I use it on my MacBook Pro to run Quickbooks (don't like the Mac version of QB). It runs PC software seamlessly from your Mac desktop while giving you all the advantages of a Mac.
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Pecos Pete
Cow Creek, NM
'07 34' Classic
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06-28-2007, 11:18 PM
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#146
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Rivet Master 
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,821
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CAD PC & Mac
Quote:
Originally Posted by cameront120
This is what made me switch from Apple to PC back in the early 80's. I needed to operate Autocad. Mac had nothing for Architecture, other than MiniCad, which at the time was woefully inadequate. MiniCad has evolve to Vectorworks, which is a great programme. It may be worth looking into, if you are interested in a full-function draughting programme. It has always been available for Mac and is also available for PC. It's a heck of a lot cheaper than Autocad, too!
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Hi Cameron, and all,
My CAD needs are light. I got TurboCAD for Mac because it was relatively inexpensive ($200 for V2 for Mac vs $1,400 for V14 for Windows). I don't expect all the features of V14 for that price, but do suspect that some of the price is them breaking into the Mac market. My brother used an older version of TurboCAD in his boat manufacturing startup, but has been using RhinoCAD more lately because it supports the digitizing arm (high-end item) he bought. It also is more suited to 3D compound curved design rather than architecture, which suits boat design very well. Even jewelry designers are using it.
Vaughan
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06-28-2007, 11:22 PM
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#147
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Rivet Master 
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,821
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vswingfield
Hi Cameron, and all,
My CAD needs are light. I got TurboCAD for Mac because it was relatively inexpensive ($200 for V2 for Mac vs $1,400 for V14 for Windows). I don't expect all the features of V14 for that price, but do suspect that some of the price is them breaking into the Mac market. My brother used an older version of TurboCAD in his boat manufacturing startup, but has been using RhinoCAD more lately because it supports the digitizing arm (high-end item) he bought. It also is more suited to 3D compound curved design rather than architecture, which suits boat design very well. Even jewelry designers are using it.
Vaughan
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Boy,
I never seem to get everything into one post. My brother's CAD stuff is all Widows. RhinoCAD proudly states that there will never be a version for any other platform. I went with TurboCAD to minimize dificulties exchanging files.
Vaughan
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06-29-2007, 12:15 AM
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#148
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Rivet Master 

2014 27' Flying Cloud
Viera
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,228
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pecos Pete
If you need to run a PC application on a Mac, take a look at Parallels. I use it on my MacBook Pro to run Quickbooks (don't like the Mac version of QB). It runs PC software seamlessly from your Mac desktop while giving you all the advantages of a Mac.
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Pete,
I recall reading somewhere that Parallels doesn't connect all the peripherals where Boot Camp does. What is your experience?
Randy
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Florida Airstream Club (027)
WBAC# 1212 - AIR# 17017
2014 27FB Flying Cloud - SilverCabin II
2018 F-150 Platinum - unnamed
The best part of any trip is when you pull away from home.
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06-29-2007, 04:51 AM
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#149
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Rivet Master 
Commercial Member
1986 31' Sovereign
1975 25' Tradewind
1967 17' Caravel
Sherfield English
, Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 700
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvertwinkie
I dunno, we had a kid throw the Ti laptop across the room, broke one of the screen mounts, but it was fully functional and had no other dents, etc.
Kids drop our G4 Powerbooks that are alum, and they crush like a beer can if hit at the right angle. Too bad Apple doesn't build a Mac version of this, then there would be no worries at all:
Toughbook Laptop Computers from Panasonic
Be great for the education market..... 
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If my kids did that to my Mac Laptop, I'd cut their bloody hands off!
This is my workstation. No hassle, no panic, no crashes, no problem!
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06-29-2007, 07:11 AM
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#150
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 10,475
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Yea, I hear ya, but working in a school, it's a CLM, (carrer limiting move) if I cut the hands off all the kids that bang 'em up!
BTW, lines at the Apple Stores for the iPhone have been growing since yesterday. Something tells me, yer gona see these on eBay (at a premium) from the folks that got in line to horde the 2 they are allowed to buy.
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Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq and millions of others are by far the most popular with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form. -NY Times 11/91
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06-29-2007, 08:15 AM
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#151
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Rivet Master 
Commercial Member
1986 31' Sovereign
1975 25' Tradewind
1967 17' Caravel
Sherfield English
, Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 700
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You have my sympathy!
The iPhone is being trailed on the uk site. There will always be people willing to pay top dollar for the latest gizmo! Personally, if it can't make me coffee, I'm not interested! Lol!
Marc
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06-29-2007, 09:11 AM
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#152
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More than one rivet loose

Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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I have been having no end of problems with the current version of Parallels trying to use a USB-serial adapter. They told me to download the previous version that did not have those problems. only problem. My software key does not work for that version. Email support takes several days for them to get back to me. I gave up.
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball 
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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06-29-2007, 09:14 AM
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#153
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4 Rivet Member 
2006 16' International CCD
New York
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 268
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rgodfrey
I recall reading somewhere that Parallels doesn't connect all the peripherals where Boot Camp does. What is your experience?
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The only peripheral weirdness I've had with Parallels is that it only supports USB 1.1 instead of 2.0 - so if you have to do large downloads over USB it takes forever.
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06-29-2007, 01:36 PM
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#154
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2 Rivet Member 
1988 32.5' Airstream 325
La Follette
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 40
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First post to the forum since I bought my 325 last week.
Once you go Mac, you never go back...... Glad to see Mac are popular with this crowd. We're Ibook and Imac users.
We need ISP service to run a small business from the MH. It will have to be high speed so most likely we'll need satellite.
Any thoughts?
Regards,
Kevin and Debbie Edwards
Studebakerboy@gmail.com
Airlandandseaparts.com
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06-29-2007, 01:58 PM
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#155
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Rivet Master 
2008 27' International CCD FB
Boerne, TX /
, Evergreen, CO
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 904
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There are several wireless internet threads in the Computers, Internet and Satellite forum: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f451/
Personally, I'd go with a combination of WiFi at campgrounds ans business and a EVDO card. There are even USB wireless modems for us PC Card-less Mac (or MAC?  ) users. Satellite internet, while possible, would be too hard to setup if you move frequently.
VIVA LA MAC!
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2008 27'FB Int'l Signature CCD
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06-29-2007, 03:07 PM
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#156
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Rivet Master 
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,821
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The Mac in My Excella
Finally found a workaround for the photo uploading problems. This is my Mac G4 400Mhz upgraded to 1.8Ghz with 2 gigs of ram. The flat screen is a 37" Mitsubishi 1080p with 2 hdmi and 1 DVI inputs. Makes a terrific monitor, 1920 by 1080. I do use a Microsoft wireless desktop. I need my right mouse button and wheel.
Vaughan
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06-30-2007, 08:19 AM
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#157
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Rivet Master 
Tonka Bay
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 770
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cameront120
I use a PC. Mac hasn't figured out how to operate Autocad yet. Although, now that they can operate Windows, I suppose it is no longer an issue.
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This pretty much sums up my disdain for the PC, Microsoft OS and AutoDesk especially because they have little creativity to even try to adapt to the Macintosh. AutoCAD represents the last bastion of arrested development that Apple has not concurred. If it hadn't been for Steve Jobs bringing WYSIWYG to the masses we would probably still staring at amber ASCII text on black screens as we still draw with color representing lines on black screens with AutoCAD. At this juncture I expect someone here to pipe in about yeah but really it was Xerox at Palo Alto. Yeah, but they sat on their butts with it.
If you remember your history it took Microsoft kicking and screaming at least 8 years to get a Windows operating system out that could emulate the Mac OS. That only highlights the significance of Apple and Mac in 1984 considering Microsoft was an early partner with Word on the Mac that you could not get on the PC for several years.
Apple dabbled and demonstrated very early on you could do a WYSIWYG with MacDraw and a CAD program in ClarisCAD and Adobe demonstrated Illustrator from the beginning how to draw on a computer and see what you intuitively have. No one yet has combined the richness of the two to make art and scaled drafting (CAD) totally intuitive. Engineered Software's Mac PowerCAD is probably the closest but is only 2D. VectorWorks is close but ignorance of them and the sheer dominance of AutoCAD has continued the arrested development sprung out of the old antiquated DOS operating system.
I often wonder if the Mac hadn't happened if Microsoft would have remained as arrested in development as AutoCAD and we would still communicating here in ASCII text and the Internet as we know it would still be waiting to develop. It seems Apple continually keeps pushing the envelope and dragging the others in and giving others the platform with which to spring new ideas. Apple has always been the leader in hardware design. The iPod and iTunes are rapidly changing music and video buying and delivery. Just as we got used to accepting our clunkily operating cell phones along comes the iPhone that will probably completely change the paradigm again (much for the better).
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Davydd
2015 Sprinter Class B Camper Van
(Former 1971 vintage Airstream Owner)
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06-30-2007, 08:43 AM
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#158
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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, Illinois
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Lee Iacocca said it best Davydd. "Lead, follow or get out of the way."
Apple may not be the most popular or have the numbers Microcommunist has, but they do lead where they can. One bit at a time!
On a side note I may tear into Microsoft, but ponder this, what if Microsoft was a company based in China, Japan, Russia or some other country. As bad as Microsoft is, at least they are our own home grown thorn.
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Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq and millions of others are by far the most popular with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form. -NY Times 11/91
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06-30-2007, 09:53 AM
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#159
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4 Rivet Member 
2000 34' Limited
Somewhere in Western
, North Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 252
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MacBook Pro durability
My wife asked that I post my recent experience with my one year old MacBook Pro. While on a recent work trip I had my laptop bag partially run over by a crew van. Fortunately the driver was the head honcho of the company involved immediately stopped realized what had happened and gave me his card and said he pay whatever it cost.
So I've gotten a new machine out of the deal. The run over machine was able to start and run but the display would not work.
One of the unique things Apple does when you get a new machine is during the startup procedure they have programmed a simple way to transfer your old programs and files over to your new machine. To do this you start the machine you want to transfer your files from in Firewire Target mode and have it hooked up to the other machine with a firewire cable.
It took about 2 hours to transfer all my other programs and files and once the new machine was up and running I didn't lose a beat from when other machine was run over.
Here's some shots of my run over machine:
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06-30-2007, 10:30 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Target mode has saved a number of folks.
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Computers manufactured by companies such as IBM, Compaq and millions of others are by far the most popular with about 70 million machines in use worldwide. Macintosh fans note that cockroaches are far more numerous than humans and that numbers alone do not denote a higher life form. -NY Times 11/91
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