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Old 07-17-2018, 05:44 PM   #1
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Solar prewires

Hello,


In the process of getting a solar panel for my 2003 22ft. I've located the green and yellow wires in the ceiling (for the roof installation) and in the locker where the controller should go, I also see the black and red wires that are labeled Solar and connect to the battery. Problem is I do not see the black and red wires in the locker where the controller goes. There are black and red wires but they are connected to other things, not isolated and labeled Solar.


Question is: do I only need to connect the green and yellow wires to the controller?


Thanks in advance.
J
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Old 07-20-2018, 03:08 PM   #2
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You say above that you see "black and red wires labeled Solar that are connected to the battery". Where do you see these wires?
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:33 PM   #3
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Hi,


Thanks for responding. The black and red wires are bundled together with labels attached marked "solar" under the bed towards the front where the battery bus bar is. They are not connected to anything but AS said these are to be connected once panels are installed. The problem is that I don't see the red and black wires in the locker where the controller should go, only green and yellow marked "solar.


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Old 07-20-2018, 06:35 PM   #4
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First step is to dig a bit. They may be buried in a bundle of wires in a hard to find corner of the space.

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Old 07-21-2018, 07:25 AM   #5
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Well, I've been digging all morning with no luck. There is definitely no black and red wires behind the radio as it states in the manual. ugh. I wonder if they just forgot to install? Green and Yellow Solar are clearly marked.
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Old 07-21-2018, 07:52 AM   #6
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If the wires are marked and present at the battery end of things, they go *somewhere* in the trailer. Just where they wound up depends a lot on how they did stuff on your model in that year. If the green and yellow wires terminate ( show up as unconnected ends) in the locker with the radios, it's a good bet the red and black are somewhere near by.

In my case, all the wires are up under the sofa. None of the solar stuff is anywhere near the radio or overhead lockers. The green and yellow do run overhead, but they end under the sofa (and on the roof). It's Airstream so ... "never the same way twice" applies.

If you aren't the first owner .. possibly the PO "borrowed" the red / black for some other purpose ...

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Old 07-21-2018, 08:08 AM   #7
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I called AM solar and asked them about the wires. My 2010 had solar panels installed but they did not work very well. The controller was a thirty dollar part on Ebay. I rewired with six gauge wire instead of the ten gauge that was there, a new controller and new panels to make four hundred watts. The system is great thanks to Am Solar.
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Old 07-21-2018, 03:57 PM   #8
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I've been digging for most of the day with no luck, definitely no black and red anywhere to be found except by the battery bus. bummer. I'd really like to avoid rewiring.


Thanks for all of your help!
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Old 07-22-2018, 07:15 AM   #9
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Not all of the wires may have been completely pulled and stuffed under the sound gear before that was bolted in place. There's only just so much room in some of these areas for loose wires. Working out the route they would take is the next step in finding them.

With that in mind, which direction do they head from the battery? How far can you follow them from that point? How do the other wires get into the space you think they should show up in? Is there a "utility space" along the way? If you yank on them do you hear noise "up the line"? (which might help track things).

As an example: If wires were heading from the battery in my trailer to up by the sound system, they would pop out first under the sofa. Then they would show up in the vicinity of the dinette. Finally they would head up past the fridge. All those areas have wire tangles in them. All would be candidates for the "where is the wire" hunt. Yes, that's all my trailer and yours is going to be different. Not all of the wires may have been completely pulled and stuffed under the sound gear before that was bolted in place.

There's no disadvantage of working out the route and pulling this and that open. You will have to do pretty much the same thing if you decide to pull your own wires. Looking at this and that is *way* easier than pulling the wire ....

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Old 07-22-2018, 07:43 AM   #10
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Do the yellow and green wires terminate in the locker you referred too? In my trailer they ran all the way to the front under the bed where the battery bus bar, inverter and some other wiring was. The red and black wires you located under the bed, where do they appear to go from there?--Frank
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Would a 'tone generator' work to find the wires behind the walls?
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Old 07-22-2018, 08:21 AM   #12
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Do the yellow and green wires terminate in the locker you referred too? In my trailer they ran all the way to the front under the bed where the battery bus bar, inverter and some other wiring was. The red and black wires you located under the bed, where do they appear to go from there?--Frank
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That's how it worked in my trailer as well. Everything terminated right by the main DC thermal breaker "bus".

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Old 07-22-2018, 08:32 AM   #13
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Yes, the green and yellow terminate behind the radio in the locker, they are clearly marked Solar. Under the bed by the bus is the red and black terminated wire (not connected) marked Solar.


What's missing is the black and red in the locker. I'll keep looking, but I've tried almost everywhere.


Also, those black and red wires by the bus travel upwards from there so they have to go somewhere?


Thanks for the help.


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Old 07-22-2018, 09:30 AM   #14
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From looking at some pictures, the area behind the fridge is a likely place for wires to come out. There appears to be a "chase" up the side of the wardrobe from there. In some trailers there is a flimsy wall in the wardrobe that separates that wiring chase from everything else. I'd look behind it. If they aren't there, check behind / under the fridge.

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