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11-30-2003, 11:53 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 199
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Sewer Solution
Waiting out the winter in Anchorage; and thinking about what we need for next season's use of our new 16. Past posts thought a lot of this Sewer Solution thing, and looking at the slinky AS provided, I can see why. But, the TT has a separate port for attaching a hose to flush out the tank as you drain it, so I wonder if this thing is an improvement. The owners manual is typically unhelpful here, doesn't even mention the flushing inlet or when/how to use it. IF nothing else, I like not having to store the large diameter slinky and using only the non-corregated small diameter Sewer Solution hose.
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11-30-2003, 04:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 65
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frozen chosen,
I have had a Sewer Solution for a long time infact I have one of the opague prototypes. You may have to have both the Sewer Solution and the slinky hose with you.
Some dump stations do not have a way to connect a hose. I have come across hoses with the male end cut off and the other end purposely located high in the air on the end of a long pipe to prevent people from temporarily replacing them. I think that some dump stations do not trust people to have antisiphon valves especially in areas that have a common water system.
I also have a built in tank cleaning system, but without a hose connection available, that will not work either.
I am going to make up a couple of pipe adapters that will fit inside the cut off ends of 1/2 and 3/4 inch hoses. Then with a short hose and a screw clamp, I can eliminate carring the sloppy slinky finally.
Be sure to carry a spare Theford adapter for the Sewer Solution. It is easy to break this adapter since the Sewer Solution somewhat conflicts with the dump vlaves on the Airstream. Once it breaks, you are SOL.
As you stated, the Sewer solution takes up very little room.
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et
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11-30-2003, 06:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 16' International CCD
Arcata
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 250
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So Frozen,
I hope I have this holding tank flush out attachment on my unit! Where is it and how do I use it? Sounds very handy since we don't have the advantage of using grey water to follow our black. Jamie
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11-30-2003, 07:42 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Hi Jamie; on the road side above the wheel there are two inlets, the top (larger) being the hookup for freshwater supply at the campground. Below this there is a smaller inlet which is the tank flush. The dealer said I would normally not have to use this, but in the event the trailer had sat for a while, this would agitate the tank. He also said you could use the same hose that you have going to the upper valve; just unscrew it there and re=attach to the flush valve. Ummmm, I see why some campgrounds might cut the hose screws. I have the entire walk thru on tape, so if you would want it I could try to have it copies and sent to you.
Another question I still have: how do you change the high-intensity bulbs (no jokes)? Do yyou have a TV for yours? If so, what is it and how is it working. When the financial dust settles from having bought the TT, I am looking at a 17in LCD.
Later, Brad.
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11-30-2003, 08:14 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 16' International CCD
Arcata
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 250
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I don't have the extra hose attachment for a tank flush, but I do have a tank flush hose that you put down through the toilet that is supposed to help clean it out. I'm not concerned yet.
I think the lights just pop down if you pry them from the most inner chrome ring. I started to pry one out once and it made a move but I stopped for some reason.
NoTV. We have a lap top that we think of using as a DVD player but haven't taken it along yet. We haven't stayed put at a campsite long enough to have time for some viewing. Usually running around sightseeing and wind up in bed as soon as it's dark. I'm looking forward to a lazy trip.
So how do you fit in the bed and bathroom?
Jamie
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11-30-2003, 08:31 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 299
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Hi Guys: I asked about changing the bulbs and haven't gotten a straight answer yet. I think they probably pop out. They are loose and you can push them around.
Have either of you gotten a new 16CCD manual?
Brad: Did you get the rear wrap around windows?
Cheers, Linda
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11-30-2003, 09:50 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 199
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The TT fits me fine (I lied; I'm really 5-10). We were really suprised to see how much leg room there is on the table/conversion bed. It would fit someone 6feet without problems. No new manual, although I hope AS is planning on it. I tore out all sections not pertaining to the 16, but its obvious there is a lot missing. I forgot how to turn on the heater and figured this would be carefully explained in the manual. Hah! The manufacturer-supplied info only showed how to wire the damn thing. Now I am wondering how the freshwater supply inlet for the tanks works with the fw supply thing for the hook up.
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11-30-2003, 09:51 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Oh, forgot.... no wrap around r. windows - although now that I see the lay out I wouldn't want them, as they would let a lot of light in, as well as less insulation value above the bed.
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11-30-2003, 10:07 PM
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4 Rivet Member
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Thanks Brad: I'll be calling Airstream this week to ask about a few items, and the manual will be one of them.
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12-01-2003, 04:05 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 16' International CCD
Arcata
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 250
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My mother-in-law said the wrap around rear window made the bed look like a hot tub!!! It made my wife feel better about not getting one. I agree with her and I agree with Frozen about the insulation value and light. It gets pretty chilly sleeping against the aluminum as it is.
I had to call AS to get an update for my trailer handbook. It isn't much better than the old one except the schematics for the wiring and plumbing match up now.
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12-01-2003, 07:25 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Re: the light bulbs; I'll bet a cookie they don't pop out. At least it would be unusual for a bulb that large to be a push-in , pull out-er. ITs around 5 below out, or I would try to see if I could unscrew one (not much to grab on to, is there?).
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12-02-2003, 03:54 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 299
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Water Inlets
Hi: Are these the water inlets we're talking about?
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12-02-2003, 07:49 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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yep
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12-03-2003, 10:03 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 16' International CCD
Arcata
, California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 250
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Dang! Our Pod doesn't have one. I want one!!!
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01-02-2004, 01:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 25' Tradewind
Metro Phoenix
, Arizona
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I just used my Sewer Solution for the first time...
...and I thought I'd share my observations with y'all.
First, it's a quality unit, and well thought out. It works just like it should.
Second, you'll need a Thetford to Valterra adaptor to hook it to your tank; if your trailer is laid out like mine, it will work better with about an 8" extension, so you can position it with the discharge hose pointing down.
It ain't real fast. You wouldn't want to use it with five people behind you in line at the dump station, but that's really not what it's for. IMHO, it's for those times when there's no other way to do it. If you don't need one now, you will some day!
You can buy a supposedly "second" quality direct from www.sewersolution.com for $75, although I cannot for the life of me see a defect in mine.
I used 1" PVC pipe on the discharge - I had to pump the full 10' length of the discharge hose, thru 30' of straight pipe, up a foot and a half, and thru (3) 90 degree bends, and down into the cleanout at my house. Here's a couple tips on piping that will help you out considerably, I believe:
First, do not use regular 90 degree elbows, as they add considerable flow resistance and will slow things down to a crawl. I use 1" PVC electrical conduit sweep elbows, which reduce the flow resistance quite a bit. Same stuff, same glue, more expensive, but they work wonders for the flow.
Second, if you'll be dropping into a cleanout, like I was, add an extension to drop a couple of feet down - this will let you take some advantage of a siphon effect.
Overall, I'm happy as a clam with it. It let me do something that would have otherwise been impossible!
-Don
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01-02-2004, 03:38 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1999 34' Limited
2002 19' Bambi
Allen
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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Would trade for the sewer solution
With a year of use, I could not be more happy. I have yet to use that big, messy 3" hose. I agree that it is not quick, but that is a small inconvenience. I have used mine with 50ft of hose (bought from sewer solution) going up a slight incline to my cleanout and it works perfectly. There is NO way that I could empty my rig at home without the sewer solution. There may come a day when I use the old 3" hose, but it will certainly be the exception to my wishes.
david
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07-26-2004, 02:34 PM
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3 Rivet Member
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Sewer Solution
Camping World is advertising something called the Sewer Solution (their part number 16617). It uses a high velocity water jet to pull sewage from the RV sewer pipe and eject it from a small-diameter discharge hose.
Looks interesting, but has anyone had any experience with this or a similar device? It seems to perform sort of the same function as a macerator pump. I'd like to eliminate that big floppy sewer hose if possible.
Bob
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07-26-2004, 02:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1964 26' Overlander
1977 25' Tradewind
Eastern
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mcneon
Camping World is advertising something called the Sewer Solution (their part number 16617). It uses a high velocity water jet to pull sewage from the RV sewer pipe and eject it from a small-diameter discharge hose.
Looks interesting, but has anyone had any experience with this or a similar device? It seems to perform sort of the same function as a macerator pump. I'd like to eliminate that big floppy sewer hose if possible.
Bob
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I have thought about these and see a big down side with my rig. The shower drains into the main dump pipe and if the sewer gismo ever fails to work the black water will back up into the shower pan.
I guess I'm a chicken and will not be using one of those things.
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Gary
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07-26-2004, 02:48 PM
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2 Rivet Member
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I'm new to camping, but it's the only thing I've ever used and it works great. I carry the larger hose along, but have never used it.
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Pensacola FL
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07-26-2004, 03:04 PM
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Just a member
1978 28' Argosy 28
Lutz
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,549
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Merged 3 threads with same topic. Have fun!
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