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Old 12-02-2007, 11:50 AM   #15
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Ok, I won't go to Ohio either.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:55 PM   #16
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both have major operations in kent.

it's part of the seattle metroplex folks, on continuous domino of burbs

you wouldn't likely know you're even IN this city,

unless you needed public services,

like the police.

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Old 12-02-2007, 01:36 PM   #17
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Police may have done you a favor.Since thay have NO legal obligation to protect you.
Kent WA crime rate is quite a-bit above WA state average and in many crimes above national average.

You should alway's be aware of the areas where you go or camp and what is going on around you.Like what you saw in park they sent you to and you went.BE DO NOT look for trouble,but sure be ready for it if it finds YOU.It can find YOU any where any time.
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:59 PM   #18
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South Sound is not the best part of the Seattle area. Tacoma/Lakewood are frequently features on 'COPS', which we always get a kick out of - aparently there's garenteed action for them to film, because they are there all the time We stopped at the Lakewood Mall once and took all of a couple minutes to realize we had wandered into the wrong neighborhood. If you feel like you may be the only one in the building who isn't armed, it's time to move on! This may contribute to the police attitude in the area.

But LYH is right there in Olympia, so if you're in an AS and looking for a place to sleep, that's the place to go. Further up the sound it gets trickier. We regularly do a Comic Book Show near downtown and stay in a hotel because there's no place for trailers within 20 miles.

The NW is a beautiful place with a zillon exciting camping opportunities, but the Seattle Mero area is NOT one of them. It is really big! The Portland Metro area would be better. You could stay out by us at Battle Ground Lake and be close enough to spend a day exploring Portland. Much smaller city, and in my opinion, much safer.
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:47 PM   #19
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interesting.

it's not clear from your post...

were you planning to boondock or overnight on a public street?

i don't think opening the door to your trailer or going inside is specifically the issue.

sleeping on the streets, parking lots or city parks is...

i doubt that even the walmarts in this region have 'campers'...

kent is 80-90,000 people and a HUGE industrial area...

while being buried in the the massive sea-tac/king county metro area.

i suspect most every metroplex city has a rule like this,

and especially along both coasts and major metro destinations.

it's not easy to find most of there ordinances online but kent's are easy...

City code Chapter 8.09 Camping - City of Kent, Washington

you could have easily stayed at the a/s land yacht harbor just a few miles south....

all airstreams and friendly folks.

the police probably did you a favor by saying 'move along'

i'd never consider overnighting in a metro city park.

even the ones with hookups and a gate are crime magnets.

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doesn't salem have a similar code and guidelines for 'overnighting or camping' in city parks?
I don't believe Salem has such an ordinance. When I was a full timer, I often stayed in Salem and never had a problem.

Also, my work forces me all over the place, so I often bring my own sleeping quarters, and find quite places parked on public streets. Usually around the corner of commercial businesses that are closed for the night, and I'm gone before they open their doors. I don't bring anything outside, and I don't hang out outside. I just mind my own business. I travel from Eugene, Oregon all the way to Seattle, and this is the first time I have ever been asked to move along by anyone. I am very curtious to my temporary neighbors, and most of the time they don't even notice that I was there.
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... so I often bring my own sleeping quarters, and find quite places parked on public streets. Usually around the corner of commercial businesses that are closed for the night, and I'm gone before they open their doors...
yeah 56' been there and done that.

but it was 20 years ago.

a quick saturday nite in a vacant bank lot,

or tuesday at the church or friday night in a 'light industrial zone'

or a summer night near a closed public school...

but parking/sleeping on urban public streets NOW is widely regulated and enforced...

if you are still doing this and NOT getting a 3 am door tap from police, they are just missing u.

check those salem city ordinances again....

fire/police/emt access cannot be blocked,

lp fired stoves cannot be used in or near many public places, any effluent discharge is forbidden, and on and on...

besides 'salem proper' isn't the safest place anymore either.

folks just stopping on a side street for midnight nap in cars, trucks, rvs and so on...

are not the 'criminals' ...they are targets for crime.

this is one of the MANY reasons (right or wrong) that folks stay at wally world...

or with the truckers in a pilot diesel stop.

and now, almost every public parking lot in urban zones prohibits overnight parking.

i realize you didn't knowingly do anything wrong,

but 'pulling around the corner, behind the building' is an old wally dream in the current urban world.

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Old 12-02-2007, 05:10 PM   #21
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but 'pulling around the corner, behind the building' is an old wally dream in the current urban world.
My 1968 owners manual actually says there are many places where you can just pull off the road for the night, or ask a friendly farmer if you can stay in his field - yeah right...in 1968 I guess. People are way too suspicious now. You certainly should be able to spend a night on a public street if you're not bothering anyone, but in reality, someone is bound to notice, and tell you to move along 'just because'. I'm surprised you haven't been rousted more often.
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Old 12-02-2007, 06:01 PM   #22
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In this day and age, I'm really suprised that they didn't taze you first and then send you on your way...
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Old 12-02-2007, 08:06 PM   #23
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In this day and age, I'm really suprised that they didn't taze you first and then send you on your way...
Still lots of good LEO's everywhere. However there are getting to be more and more of the sort that will taze you first and then arrest you for falling down and twitching. Seen some pretty poor examples show up on Youtube. What shows up in the bad examples is the LEO's poor people skills.
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I am a couple of towns away from Kent and to be honest, I don't even like to drive through there. I grew up in Boston and Kent is a rough 'hood in some places...so I am sure the police are on the lookout all the time. Had a friend who lived in Kent and her truck windows were broken 3 times before she had enough. Kent does not have the best of reputations, and that is from a newbie to the state (been here a little over a year now, and yes, I still drop my r's. As in, yer freakin' retahded!). There are lots of nicer places close to Kent where I would choose to boondock...that aren't a designated area completely trashed...blech! Poor thing!
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right-gotta love the Rat City Roller Girls!
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right-gotta love the Rat City Roller Girls!
And some great rock and roll bands. The birth of grunge; Sonics, Wailers,
Little Bill and the Blue Notes, Statics..all Rat City.
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... "rat city"...
too funny, i had forgotten this.

but the seattle community i lived in,

was once called fleaburg...

and is still connected to the sound,

by the original skid road...

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