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Safari Tim · 12-13-2004, 11:23 AM

I tried to order some tubes of Parbond to try and stop some leaks on my trailer.

I placed the order online from egutter.com last week. They called today and said it is illegal to ship the product to Calfornia

So... what are Californians using to seal their trailers?...

**Stefrobrts** · 12-13-2004, 11:28 AM

Are you sure they aren't confused? After all, I got mine from InlandRV in CA, and he obviously had it shipped to him.

Safari Tim · 12-13-2004, 11:37 AM

I just talked to them (egutter.com) on the phone. They said it would be illegal to ship it to California.

I suppose I could have it shipped outside of CA and sent in via a family member.

If you notice on inlandrv.com they do not specifically reference parbond.

They call it

Sealer, Aluminum 5 oz. for seams, rivets, etc

and have NO PIC under the picture column.

Here is the link to the egutter.com page that sells it.

12/13/04 13:10 Edited to clarify who I talked to.

Wardinbb · 12-13-2004, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Safari Tim

I tried to order some tubes of Parbond to try and stop some leaks on my trailer.

I placed the order online from egutter.com last week. They called today and said it is illegal to ship the product to Calfornia

So... what are Californians using to seal their trailers?...

I got the 5oz tube from AirstreamDreams and a 10oz tube for the caulk gun from Hilltop RV.net .
Ed

**Stefrobrts** · 12-13-2004, 12:04 PM

Well, I guess you just need to find someone in CA that sells Sealer, Aluminum, you know - for seams, rivets, etc.

Funny that Airstream Dreams also doesn't have a problem with it, but egutters does. You Californians! Always got some crazy enviromental law getting in your way (actually we're probably being exposed to some horrible cancer causing substance in the Parbond, but what can you do?).

Safari Tim · 12-13-2004, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefrobrts

. You Californians! Always got some crazy enviromental law getting in your way (actually we're probably being exposed to some horrible cancer causing substance in the Parbond, but what can you do?).

Yep... But that's the kinda of stuff that usually works!

I checked airstreamdreams.com and they show out of stock.

So, unless someone else pops up here I'll checkout hilltoprv.com, thanks for the tip Ed.

Inland RV Center, In · 12-13-2004, 01:41 PM

Safari Tim.

Our part # 51600 is Par Bond.

We order it and it is shipped to us. We in turn ship it to you.

You indicate that "we" said it's illegal to ship that in California. I have questioned all of our telephone people, and none of them remember talking to you, let alone making such a comment.

To set the record straight, we have the Par-bond, and we ship it anyplace, anytime.

We have never heard fromk "anyone" that shipping Par-bond is illegal.

Further, since we have a legitimate business location in Corona, we always have 50 to 100 tubes of Par-bond, in stock.

Andy

74Argosy24MH · 12-13-2004, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In

You indicate that "we" said it's illegal to ship that in California. I have questioned all of our telephone people, and none of them remember talking to you, let alone making such a comment.

Re-read the thread, he was referring to egutter.com.

John

**Stefrobrts** · 12-13-2004, 02:01 PM

I don't think anyone took it to mean InlandRV said it was illegal to ship it, after all, I got mine from Andy too.

campcollector · 12-13-2004, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefrobrts

I don't think anyone took it to mean InlandRV said it was illegal to ship it, after all, I got mine from Andy too.

See!

I knew Par-bond was bad for you! Look what its done to ANDY

campcollector · 12-13-2004, 09:43 PM

Acrylic R from AS works great I have some with the pump applicator and it does a wiz bang job.

Safari Tim · 12-14-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by campcollector

Acrylic R from AS works great I have some with the pump applicator and it does a wiz bang job.

Thanks for the idea. I checked the airstream website and it shows the Acrylic R as being the official seam sealer from Airstream.

Makes me wonder my most of the talk is using parbond for seams instead of this product.

The picture shows just holding the applicator to the seam and pulling the trigger. Is it really that easy?

No masking the area with tape or anything? How far does one can go?

I have a couple of vertical seams I want to seal first to see if thats the cause of my current leak.

InsideOut · 12-14-2004, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Safari Tim

Thanks for the idea. I checked the airstream website and it shows the Acrylic R as being the official seam sealer from Airstream.

Makes me wonder my most of the talk is using parbond for seams instead of this product.

It probably is the current sealer used by Airstream whereas the Par-Bond/Vulkem is older technology, which was used on vintage units.

We've used the Vulkem & Par-Bond and had great success...no leaks since we painstakingly removed all the silicone that the previous owner had gooped all over! We didn't remove the old 'non-silicone' sealer, (assuming it was a combination of Par-Bond & Vulkem) so we wanted to stick with the old 'tried & true' not sure of the adhesion of the newer Acrylic R to the old sealer that was still intact.

Shari

campcollector · 12-14-2004, 09:26 PM

Well easy application depends on how much skill you have running the applicator. I was able to do my seems without tape after a few trial runs using tape. Does that make sense??

Anyway just sqeeze the trigger as you move and ya should do ok. This looks like it doesn't go into the seam at first but let it suck in and dry and it looks great. Make sure you do it on a warm day when the joint is open the most. It stays permanatly soft and flexable and its very sticky.

Also this can goes along way............. You probably won't use half of it and it only keeps for 12 months in a cool environment. Smells real good too

If you have a freind or somone at a rally who needs it spread the wealth.

It is $$$$$ so maybe thats why an inexpensive tube of parbond works well for small jobs. Have fun and don't get it on your clothes

wallybyam · 12-15-2004, 10:49 PM

If Parbond is illegal, better lock me up! I have recently bought, at our local RV dealer, enough to stick Ted Kennedy to George Bush. I purchased and have used; silver, clear and grey. Can't beat the stuff! The squirrels, mice, birds, ants and spiders are as plentiful as ever, but the leaks stopped!

Crack is illegal, but if you wanted some you could probably find it. Illegal or not, if I wanted some Parbond, I would find it and use it.

Luck to you!

Bruce

Safari Tim · 12-16-2004, 12:32 AM

Well, I checked with airstreamdreams.com and they were out of parbond but their site states they recommend alcoa gutter seal for seams.

Since I already a had some of that I taped up the seam real good an applied it.

I'm giving a good couple of days to cure before I hose it. Its the vertical seam just under the front wrap windows. I hosed it before I started and could tell it was getting the inside edge of the floor wet.

Pick · 12-16-2004, 05:14 AM

Last Sunday, Nickcrowhurst stopped by and helped me replace the right front banana wrap, that was damaged by a "road gator". After everything was riveted back together, Nick got out his "Acrylic R" and sealed everything up. Nice stuff, that applicator is the cat's meow!