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Old 01-06-2010, 01:45 PM   #15
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Well, Gene hit on the answer again. One word sticks out in my mind. Compromises!

A/S designed a nice inside layout for both the 25 and 27 then compromised on the door placement. I don't have an answer and it looks like this was their answer. "Compromise"

I guess there is no perfect trailer. I like small units too, just for the reasons mentioned above, but the larger ones do have there advantages.

The answer must be to just buy what you can and suck it up on the flaws. Believe me when I say that I have searched and searched again for all the different makes and models and they all are lacking somewhere. UGH!
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:03 PM   #16
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Gene,

With our old trailer, I had the problem with the awning. I had to lubricate the extension arms with silicone before they would extend fully.

Bluto - I know we've camped during a rain with the door open without issues. It would depend on the direction of the rain since the door is at the end of the awning, however.

One of the GOOD things of the door is it will not blow open during travel if it's not latched/locked correctly.

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Old 01-06-2010, 03:12 PM   #17
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The arms on the awning work fine, though it seems to be a kind of goofy system. The simple solution is to have a clip to the awning and hook it to the arm—I think something like that is available. The expensive solution is a roller that attaches to the top of the door. I like the former, and someday I'll look for it (if I remember, most likely my wife will remember first).

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while 'deflappers' attached to the pole/cloth do reduce FLAPPING...

they don't help with door clearance.

and after proper tensioning the zipdee cloth shouldn't flap.

the zipdee "door wheel" allows for ROLLING on the cloth vs rubbing on the cloth...

but actually makes clearance worse, since it extends ABOVE the door.
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we have no pics so there no way to evaluate the problem.

typically it is from NOT using the 4th HOLE on the lower arm...

OR from not RATCHETING the upper tensioner arm a 2nd time...

AFTER the awning is fully up.

of course it's possible the arms are bent or a/s mounted it wrong or z/d cut the cloth too long...

but door rubbing is almost always operator error.

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Old 01-06-2010, 03:36 PM   #19
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Yes, deflapper, is the name—I think one strategically placed would pull up the awning just high enough. Arms are not bent, but mounted wrong, who knows? Not me.

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Old 01-06-2010, 08:50 PM   #20
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We have had a 25 and a 23 and a 27 and we have camped in the same places. Plenty of state and National parks. It takes a bigger space to turn around in a circle but camping spots have not been an issue yet. Also though a friend of mine told me about the rain thing with a rear door, I have kept the door open in the rain and not gotten wet inside. I suppose it depends on how hard it is raining and what direction it goes????
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Why not have both?

My wife and I have a 20 ft. GT and a 27 ft. Sovereign. I LOVE the extra room in the Sov and it pulls much smoother than the single-axle GT. As far as camping, I can take either trailer to most places where we go. There always seems to be room to park my towing vehicle (2000 Tundra) wherever we are, whether it's the GT or Sov. As I often use my trailers on camping/kayaking trips, the only place(s) I won't take the Sov. are river access parks which are not considered real campgrounds. The terrain isn't conducive to double-axled longer trailers.
I'm happy to have a choice of length in my Airstreams. A man needs only one wife, but he cannot have too many Airstreams.
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Old 01-06-2010, 09:36 PM   #22
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OR from not RATCHETING the upper tensioner arm a 2nd time...

How do you do this?
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On a recent trip to Rocky Mountain NP, we stayed in the Timbercreek CG and this was the only site available, If I had anything longer then my 19' I would had to have parked my TV in the overflow parking and walk back. And this was not the only small campsite located in this CG. There are some even smaller than this.

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How do you do this?
-1st rachet is just after attaching the strut arms to the roller tube rod ends... usually 1-3 clicks.

and can be done standing on the ground

then the awning is RAISED to the 4th hole.

most stop at the 3rd hole, and MAY need to stand on a foot stool to get it high enough for the 4th hole.

some folks need to ADD the 'assist handles' that z/d offers to fully extend and get the 4th hole.

-2nd ratchet is now done while standing UP on the stool under the strut, usually to the 3rd-5th notch or 'clicks'...
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when the awning is CLOSED try removing the ratcheting section from the strut arms and count the notches...

use as many notches (clicks) as are available when tensioning (this is also a good time to clean and LUBE the internal strut arms)

IF this is done correctly the cloth will b FULLY stretched and flat, no sag and the same height as the actual strut arms
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on new awnings it takes more EFFORT to get the struts fully extended.

some of us are strong enough to get 4-5 notches/clicks or a full stretch BEFORE raising it to the 4th hole...

but most folks aren't and need to stand on a stool and do in after RAISING the awning.

also DRY lube inside the strut arms can help with the process.
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now when lowering the awning it is important to DE-tension the struts FIRST before lowering.

after lowering the pins should pull easier, IF DE-tensioned in the raised positions.

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Got it....
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Old 02-27-2010, 06:04 AM   #26
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Night stand what is below the cabinet inside shelf?

I would like to mount a flash light inside the nightstand on the shelf but I do not know what is below the area?

I pulled up the parts manual but I do not see what is below it? Does anyone now if it's okay to drill and mount screws inside there?

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Old 03-03-2010, 07:21 AM   #27
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I started this thread almost a year ago and finally have a 2010 27 FB Classic on order. Thanks everyone for your comments.
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Old 03-03-2010, 07:54 AM   #28
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