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02-28-2009, 10:00 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1986 31' Sovereign
Elkhorn
, Nebraska
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 21
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Segment protectors
Does anyone know where can I find segment protectors for a 1986 Soveriegn?
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02-28-2009, 10:09 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b8sfamily
Does anyone know where can I find segment protectors for a 1986 Soveriegn?
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We have them, but they are not listed in our web site 'sale" list.
Andy
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02-28-2009, 10:24 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 27' Overlander
Grants Pass
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 45
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Boy am I dumb.. whats a segment protector..?
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02-28-2009, 10:27 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1986 31' Sovereign
Elkhorn
, Nebraska
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
We have them, but they are not listed in our web site 'sale" list.
Andy
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Andy, Thanks. How much are they and are they difficult to install? Also, I posted a thread on the forum today asking for feedback on replacing carpet in my 86 sov. Do I need to 'gut' the AS to do this. Is it reasonable to replace only the main area, including under the sofa and twin beds?
Can you recommend a durable carpet?
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02-28-2009, 10:30 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1986 31' Sovereign
Elkhorn
, Nebraska
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pixiehat
Boy am I dumb.. whats a segment protector..?
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They wrap around the front corners of the AS. They look very much like the underlying skin, but they attach over the skin. If you look closely at some of the pictures on the forum, you can see them on many of the units. I want them to cover a decent size dent on the front corner of my 86 Sov.
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02-28-2009, 11:09 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b8sfamily
Andy, Thanks. How much are they and are they difficult to install? Also, I posted a thread on the forum today asking for feedback on replacing carpet in my 86 sov. Do I need to 'gut' the AS to do this. Is it reasonable to replace only the main area, including under the sofa and twin beds?
Can you recommend a durable carpet?
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I will PM the price to you Monday, when I am at my office. The pair will take aboout 1 1/2 to 2 hours, for the first time.
You can replace the carpet without removing anything, except the old carpet.
Durable carpet against what? Dirt, sand, water?
If just in general, then most any brand, better to best grade carpet works well. We use Horizon.
Also, the carpet, to some degree, is secondary, to the pad that you will use.
The best pad is called "rebond." You can use 1/2 or 3/4 inch pad.
It adds a lot of softness to the carpet, and is fairly reasonable.
Andy
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03-04-2009, 05:59 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1986 31' Sovereign
Elkhorn
, Nebraska
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
I will PM the price to you Monday, when I am at my office. The pair will take aboout 1 1/2 to 2 hours, for the first time.
You can replace the carpet without removing anything, except the old carpet.
Durable carpet against what? Dirt, sand, water?
If just in general, then most any brand, better to best grade carpet works well. We use Horizon.
Also, the carpet, to some degree, is secondary, to the pad that you will use.
The best pad is called "rebond." You can use 1/2 or 3/4 inch pad.
It adds a lot of softness to the carpet, and is fairly reasonable.
Andy
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Andy, Thanks for your feedback. Can you give me a price on the segment protectors for a 1986 31 Sov.. Also, In a previous thread you had suggested the first thing I should do to my First/ 'new' AS is to replace all gaskets. Do you sell gasket 'kits/ sets'? of will i need to purchase them individually from you? I know I will replace the door and window gaskets first. What kind of a job is that going to be?
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03-04-2009, 06:07 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by b8sfamily
Andy, Thanks for your feedback. Can you give me a price on the segment protectors for a 1986 31 Sov.. Also, In a previous thread you had suggested the first thing I should do to my First/ 'new' AS is to replace all gaskets. Do you sell gasket 'kits/ sets'? of will i need to purchase them individually from you? I know I will replace the door and window gaskets first. What kind of a job is that going to be?
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I cannot post prices here.
I will PM them to you when I get to my office, so that I can look the prices up, but I have 2 Doctors appointments first thing today. So it should be about 10am, my time.
Replacing gaskets, is an easy project.
We send instructions with each gasket shipment.
I have a chart that tells me how many feet of gaskets you need.
But from memory, doesn't your coach have 8 opening windows?
Andy
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03-04-2009, 06:16 AM
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Rivet Master
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,478
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Here's a picture for you..
Quote:
Originally Posted by pixiehat
Boy am I dumb.. whats a segment protector..?
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If you look just under the front window..
You will see the stainless steel Segment Protector~
The covers over the front windows are called "Rock Guards".
Now you know what a segment protector and, a rock guard both look like..
Remember..
Never a dumb question asked here, only a dumb answer..sometimes..lol
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05-20-2009, 03:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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Rather than start a new thread.....
On the segment protectors there is a retaining nut at each upper corner. I replaced those two years ago right after we got the trailer. They are rusted again and staining the protector. Those puppies are a little expensive - think I paid like 15.00 each at the Mothership - recall griping to the parts person then that they should be made out of stainless for that price. I bought 4 at the time so I'd have extras but why bother with the extras if they are just going to rust out again in two years
Anyone know of a source for these in stainless.....
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05-20-2009, 06:41 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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I need the whole rubber thingy too. Interested to know where to get those as well!
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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05-20-2009, 07:20 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 30' Classic S/O
Currently Looking...
Mohrsville
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,313
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganglin
Rather than start a new thread.....
On the segment protectors there is a retaining nut at each upper corner. I replaced those two years ago right after we got the trailer. They are rusted again and staining the protector. Those puppies are a little expensive - think I paid like 15.00 each at the Mothership - recall griping to the parts person then that they should be made out of stainless for that price. I bought 4 at the time so I'd have extras but why bother with the extras if they are just going to rust out again in two years
Anyone know of a source for these in stainless.....
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Gary,
They are just acorn nuts and I believe any good hardware store should have them in stock. I just did a Google search for "stainless steel acorn nuts" and came up with a lot of hits.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beckybillrae
I need the whole rubber thingy too. Interested to know where to get those as well!
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Becky,
Can you be a little more specific than "rubber thingy"???
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2006 30' Classic W Slide & Limited Package Katarina
2006 GMC 2500 HD 6.6 Turbo Diesel Crew Cab 8' Bed
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NQ3U (was KB3UOM)
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05-20-2009, 07:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DEITZ645
Gary,
They are just acorn nuts and I believe any good hardware store should have them in stock. I just did a Google search for "stainless steel acorn nuts" and came up with a lot of hits.
Becky,
Can you be a little more specific than "rubber thingy"???
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Deitz - the ones I have are I think called a T nut? Round head with a shaft and a T on the end. It fits into the "rubber thingy" mounted on the body and does a quarter turn to hold the segment against the body.
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05-20-2009, 08:40 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beckybillrae
I need the whole rubber thingy too. Interested to know where to get those as well!
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Is this what your talking about?
Andy
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05-20-2009, 08:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 30' Classic S/O
Currently Looking...
Mohrsville
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,313
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganglin
Deitz - the ones I have are I think called a T nut? Round head with a shaft and a T on the end. It fits into the "rubber thingy" mounted on the body and does a quarter turn to hold the segment against the body.
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Gary,
Ah-Ha, The rock goards on my '06 are held in place with acorn nuts, but I think I now know what you and Becky are talking about. Are these it???
They even post this picture of a rusted one ...
I found them at Out of Doors Mart...
TURN FAST.STUD 685358 [685358] - $1.99 : ODMRV , Out-of-Doors Mart
I think I can also help Becky with the "rubber thingy". I think this may be what you are looking for...
And it can be found at Out of Doors Mart at this link...
RUBBER RECEPTACLE 685359 [685359] - $10.87 : ODMRV , Out-of-Doors Mart
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Carl, Elaine & Finn The Beagle
2006 30' Classic W Slide & Limited Package Katarina
2006 GMC 2500 HD 6.6 Turbo Diesel Crew Cab 8' Bed
TAC PA-3
S/OS#042
AIR #14487
NQ3U (was KB3UOM)
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05-20-2009, 09:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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Thank you - yes that's the part. I'll call them to see if they have it in something other than "guaranteed to rust" material.
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05-20-2009, 09:37 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1975 31' Sovereign
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 494
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Andy
I notice in an above posted picture that the rub-rail has been added to the segment protector.
Is this necessary? Will the seg-guard not fit snug if placed over the trailers exixting front rub-rail?
Also one would have to split their existing rubrail to place it onto each seg-guard half. That would leave 6 exposed ends on the extrusions.(remember the middle section that would stay on the trailer) In the picture the cut end is closed with a stub-wedge type end filler piece. Surely those are not avaliable for the older styles of rub-rails are they?
And how many rubrail styles have there been?
Lastly I would not feel good if those snap-over fasteners were all that held such an expensive accessory as segment protectors on.
Oh and for the handy (real handy) somewhere on these forums there used to be a thread about making your own seg-guards.
I cannot recall seeing two out of fifty Airstreams that had any noticeable segment damage.
Front banana wraps dented yep probably 40 out of 50.
Someone should come up with a snap-on protector made from old carpet which could be stowed easily and used when off roading in a rock or gravel area.
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05-20-2009, 09:58 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 30' Classic S/O
Currently Looking...
Mohrsville
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,313
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Drummer,
Out of Doors Mart has belt line end caps for older trailers so I am sure Andy will also.
Search Results : ODMRV , Out-of-Doors Mart
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Carl, Elaine & Finn The Beagle
2006 30' Classic W Slide & Limited Package Katarina
2006 GMC 2500 HD 6.6 Turbo Diesel Crew Cab 8' Bed
TAC PA-3
S/OS#042
AIR #14487
NQ3U (was KB3UOM)
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05-20-2009, 10:10 AM
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WBCCI 11067 WDCU
1986 25' Sovereign
Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 198
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Segments
I had a number of dents in my front section so I also added Segment protectors. I was luck enough to find a set for sale directely from Airstream on EBAY for way below retail. There were three catches:
1-They were for a wide body (not really a big deal as they are fairly plyable and just have some extra space.
2-They were used and had (1) pre-drilled hole in them.
3-They only cover a portion of the Airstream panel. If you look at new trailers you will not that the Segment protector goes all the way to the window to protect the whole panel.
Given these three issues I thought the cost benefit was good. But if you want picture perfect you might want to consider new and Andy is great to deal with.
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WBCCI 11067
1986 Sovereign 25' CB
2007 Chevy Silverado 1500
2007 Toyota Land Cruiser
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05-21-2009, 04:03 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 27' Overlander
Central
, Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Distantdrummer
Andy
I notice in an above posted picture that the rub-rail has been added to the segment protector.
Is this necessary? Will the seg-guard not fit snug if placed over the trailers exixting front rub-rail?
Also one would have to split their existing rubrail to place it onto each seg-guard half. That would leave 6 exposed ends on the extrusions.(remember the middle section that would stay on the trailer) In the picture the cut end is closed with a stub-wedge type end filler piece. Surely those are not avaliable for the older styles of rub-rails are they?
And how many rubrail styles have there been?
Lastly I would not feel good if those snap-over fasteners were all that held such an expensive accessory as segment protectors on.
Oh and for the handy (real handy) somewhere on these forums there used to be a thread about making your own seg-guards.
I cannot recall seeing two out of fifty Airstreams that had any noticeable segment damage.
Front banana wraps dented yep probably 40 out of 50.
Someone should come up with a snap-on protector made from old carpet which could be stowed easily and used when off roading in a rock or gravel area.
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The rubrail is on the segment protector. Your current rubrail stays in place and the segment protector goes over it. The units are hinged on the front with a piano hinge - so they aren't going anywhere. the connectors shown just hold it back against the side body.
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