2020 Toyota Tundra Payload

[Rbarlow]

I just purchased a 2020 Toyota Tundra, Double Cab, 2WD.

The GVWR on my truck is 6900 lbs. The payload, according to the sticker inside the door is 1330 lbs.

On the way home from the dealership, I pulled across the CAT scales to verify the numbers (full tank of gas, me out of the truck). Instead of weighing 5,570 (6900 - 1330) like I expected, my truck only weighed 5400 lbs. So, am I correct that I have 1500 lbs of payload?

[AirMiles]

Yes. The Toyota payload sticker probably assumes there is a driver in the truck.

[Rbarlow]

Pictures of stickers. There is also an additional sticker that states "Load Carrying Capacity Reduced" by 95 lbs. For some reason, I couldn't get it downloaded. I subtracted that from the 1425 to get my new payload of 1330.

[Daquenzer]

Originally Posted by Rbarlow

I just purchased a 2020 Toyota Tundra, Double Cab, 2WD.

The GVWR on my truck is 6900 lbs. The payload, according to the sticker inside the door is 1330 lbs.

On the way home from the dealership, I pulled across the CAT scales to verify the numbers (full tank of gas, me out of the truck). Instead of weighing 5,570 (6900 - 1330) like I expected, my truck only weighed 5400 lbs. So, am I correct that I have 1500 lbs of payload?

I have an F150. When they consider payload they assume a driver that weights 150lbs. Looks like you weight 170lbs

[AirMiles]

Originally Posted by Rbarlow

Pictures of stickers. There is also an additional sticker that states "Load Carrying Capacity Reduced" by 95 lbs. For some reason, I couldn't get it downloaded. I subtracted that from the 1425 to get my new payload of 1330.

The 95# reduction was probably for a dealer installed option. Maybe a spray-in liner or tonneau cover . . .

[AirMiles]

Originally Posted by Daquenzer

I have an F150. When they consider payload they assume a driver that weights 150lbs. Looks like you weight 170lbs

Toyota probably assumes 150# also. Cat scales round to the nearest 20# and therefore theres a possible 20# error in all scale weights.

[AirMiles]

Looking at your rear axle weight limit of 4100# and subtracting your empty truck rear axle weight of 2360# leaves 1740# of allowable weight on your rear axle. That is going to be the critical number when you attach your Airstream with passengers and gear. Its going to be "close" from my experience.

[KK4YZ]

Bottom line is to look at GVWR, and GAWR’s. Those are the real numbers you need to stay under, all loaded up with trailer hitched up, too.

By the way, the Tundra is a great truck, but staying below your load numbers with a large Airstream hooked up will be tough unless you load the truck very lightly.

I see people pulling 30 footers with Tundra’s and they seem happy with it. Plenty of power and super reliability. But if you want to add a topper and load up all kinds of stuff (like we do) you’ll likely exceed one of your weight limits.

[Rbarlow]

Thanks for the replies.

Yes, minimum loading was something I accepted when I went to the Tundra. We can do that. Anxious to hook it up and see how it does.

I've owned Toyotas for 30 years. Originally went with 3/4 ton SOB for tv but had nothing but trouble.

[TouringDan]

Originally Posted by KK4YZ

Bottom line is to look at GVWR, and GAWR’s. Those are the real numbers you need to stay under, all loaded up with trailer hitched up, too.

By the way, the Tundra is a great truck, but staying below your load numbers with a large Airstream hooked up will be tough unless you load the truck very lightly.

I see people pulling 30 footers with Tundra’s and they seem happy with it. Plenty of power and super reliability. But if you want to add a topper and load up all kinds of stuff (like we do) you’ll likely exceed one of your weight limits.

I completely agree particularly about staying under the GVWR and GAWR for the rear axle.

I have a 2008 Tundra 2wd and love it. Our 66 Tradewind is fairly light so we are fine.

I will check the specs tomorrow, but my GVWR and GAWR are about the same as yours. The payload is about 1,500 lbs.

Dan

[Tom_T]

Originally Posted by AirMiles

Toyota probably assumes 150# also. Cat scales round to the nearest 20# and therefore theres a possible 20# error in all scale weights.

Yes, the industry standard & governmental reg. is for a 150# driver, although there is talk about raising it due to larger people now.



So the OP needs to subtract his "extra" lbs from useful load, as well as all passengers (pets too), luggage, gear, etc. - which is why stowing that stuff in your trailer is a better load balancing idea.



As noted above, HW + other load at the rear axle is yet another number that needs to be watched as well.


PS - I agree that the 95# adjustment is due to an option, undercoating &/or some other item(s) added to the vehicle after the payload door jamb sticker was generated, &/or a factory adjustment to same for some change in the build itself.



Cheers!
Tom
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[TouringDan]

Here are the door jamb vehicle loading specifications for my 2008 Tundra SR-5 2wd.

It looks like they are the same as your 2020 Tundra except for the payload is 1,475 lbs.

Dan[ATTACH]

[GammaDog]

We’ve got 30,000+ miles with the Airstream (25’ Eddie Bauer) behind the Tundra (5.7L CrewMax 4x4). I like the combo.

That said, weights and weight distribution are an issue. The two I struggle with are 1. GVW of the Tundra (keeping the total weight of the two axles under 7,200 is tough the way we travel) and 2.) tongue weight (my truck is rated at 920 lbs).

My front axle is rated to 4,000 and rear 4,150. Weight distribution in the hitch (Equal-I-zer) has allowed me to stay comfortably under both of those.

[Starlight Mike]

Start with a tongue weight of 1000+ and you better pack light.

[AirMiles]

Good to know that you are aware of your payload challenge. I had a truck that was payload challenged too. I found some creative ways to stay within the ratings.

1) As someone said, carry everything you can inside the Airstream. Moving 100# into the Airstream reduces truck payload by 90# (tongue weight at 10%). For example, carry your large cooler inside the Airstream and only have a six-pack cooler inside the truck.

2) Remove any unneeded items from truck such as floor mats, rear seat headrests, back seat, and clean out all junk from storage compartments.

3) Changing from 30# propane tanks to 20# tanks will save about 36# of tongue weight.

4) Use a weight distribution hitch. Set the bars tight to move 380# of weight from the TV rear axle to the TV front axle and 160# to the trailer axles. See these weight tickets which show those weight movements are possible: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f42/...ml#post2326921 I love my Propride, but would avoid that 200# WD hitch. I successfully used a Blue Ox Swaypro with my payload challenged rig.

5) Adjust hitch height to decrease tongue weight. Adjusting the hitch height changes the fulcrum point and can decrease or increase tongue weight.

6) Possibly move the batteries (AGM or Lithium) off the tongue and into the Airstream saving over 100# of tongue weight. Switch to Lithiums to save even more weight. Keep the heavy stuff away from the front of the Airstream and more in the mid-section.

I did most of the above to keep my payload challenged truck within ratings. Just make sure you don't take too much weight off of the tongue. You want to have at least 10% tongue weight.

Like I said before, I think you will be "close" so the above adjustments may make the difference like they did on my payload challenged truck.

[Steamy1]

We have a 2010 Tundra 4x4 CrewMax, which we really like but the payload is very restrictive at 1290 lbs.

However, one question I have always had with the doorjamb sticker and the reported capacity, is that it is based on the P rated tires. What if increased load range is used, e.g., LRE?

Does this increase the load capacity? Just curious.

[harryk]

My 31 is 1000 lb tongue wt. Cap 200 Generator 200 2 people 300. Gear 200. = 1900.
Sure adds up quick !

[Mollysdad]

One of the reason I've avoided adding a front receiver and bike rack is I'm probably exceeding the Tundra payload now.
I kept my Tundra with the double cab, not crew cab; cloth interior, not leather, but a 1000# tongue weight, a hard tonneau; a generator, gas can, some tools and I don't have any wiggle room.
The hitch moves some of that weight to the trailer, and the Tundra takes it all in stride. Toyota lists the curb weight at 5170#, and payload at 1700#.
I'd buy the Tundra again tomorrow, however if Toyota ever brings out a 3/4 ton, it's lights out for the competition.

[jeffmc306]

Originally Posted by Steamy1

We have a 2010 Tundra 4x4 CrewMax, which we really like but the payload is very restrictive at 1290 lbs.

However, one question I have always had with the doorjamb sticker and the reported capacity, is that it is based on the P rated tires. What if increased load range is used, e.g., LRE?

Does this increase the load capacity? Just curious.

Steamy1, great question and while it E rated tires would increase their payload capacity, your axles are really the limiting factors. The true test is to visit the CAT scales and do a three weight test. If you're close to or over the rear axle maximum, the tires won't matter.

I ended up moving from a 1/2 ton to a 3/4 ton for that very reason...

[KK4YZ]

Originally Posted by Mollysdad

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...... however if Toyota ever brings out a 3/4 ton, it's lights out for the competition.

Man, I agree with that one. We just traded our Tundra for an F350 because we don’t travel light and couldn’t stay under GVWR. We really loved the Tundra and I always said if Toyota made a 3/4 ton I’d be right there.

I really love the F350 we have and am keeping my fingers crossed to hope the reliability turns out to be OK.

I heard from a Toyota sales guy (TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT) that Toyota will come out with an HD truck, Hybrid powered, in 2 years. Actually I doubt it. Not sure Toyota will make the investment.