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09-13-2011, 08:53 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Counter and Table Edge Trim
I was wondering if you can still get the edge trim that goes around the tables and countertops. It is T shaped and it presses into a groove cut into the edges of the plywood. My table and countertops are in pretty good shape but some of that trim is coming loose.
Perry
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09-13-2011, 09:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Yes, try Outwater Plastics. We used this on our first trailer.
There is also a edge trim that VTS provides or can be special ordered from most hardware stores that screws on instead of going in a groove. We used this on our current trailer.
Shari
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09-13-2011, 10:21 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1985 31' Limited
Nellysford
, Virginia
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 139
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T molding
Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Yes, try Outwater Plastics. We used this on our first trailer.
There is also a edge trim that VTS provides or can be special ordered from most hardware stores that screws on instead of going in a groove. We used this on our current trailer.
Shari
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I need it too, cannot find anything on those sites. RT
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09-13-2011, 10:30 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 31' Classic
Nellysford
, Virginia
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,067
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Speaking as an old woodworker, T-molding will be an ongoing problem for restoration. I, too, am searching for solutions for a 1985 Limited which needs some TLC inside. We need both 1/2-inch and 13/16-inch T-molding for this project. I posted to my woodworking forums and got a suggestion of Patwin Plastics [ http://www.patwin.com/] but have not called them yet. Experience shows Outwater is a less-than-useful source. I'll stay subscribed to this thread and update folks on what we find.
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09-13-2011, 10:37 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RTurnConn
I need it too, cannot find anything on those sites. RT
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Really? Hmmm...the links work for me. Try these...
This is the T-moulding from Outwater Plastics Page A-19
Outwater Catalogs - 2010 Master - page 19
This is the screw on type from Vintage Trailer Supplies
Countertop Moulding - 13/16" Satin
If you want to order the screw on type (same as VTS) from Home Depot or someplace else local, it's called: M-D Anodized Aluminum Counter Edging, Item #A-813. Anybody that carries M-D Mouldings should be able to order it for you. Here's a couple of pics of the M-D Moulding installed in our '56 Safari:
Shari
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09-13-2011, 10:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gheuer
Experience shows Outwater is a less-than-useful source.
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You're right, they may not be helpful for DIYr's, but they have the requested product to do the job - we just used them as an "order house", not a learning center.
Shari
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09-13-2011, 11:40 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,627
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We used the M-D Anodized Aluminum Counter Edging, Item #A-813, as well...it's great stuff, easy to install and looks great!. We got ours at Ace...
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09-13-2011, 12:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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These guys seem to have a pretty good selection. I will have to measure the thickness of the stock counters and tables etc. I may replace the OEM stuff at some point but there is not reason not to make it look good in the mean time.
Perry
Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
Yes, try Outwater Plastics. We used this on our first trailer.
There is also a edge trim that VTS provides or can be special ordered from most hardware stores that screws on instead of going in a groove. We used this on our current trailer.
Shari
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09-13-2011, 12:49 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1974 Argosy 22
1976 Argosy 28
1972 Argosy 24
Chico
, California
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 52
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while I spend most of my time and money at one of the big box hardware stores, I find my local hardware store is a goldmine for these kinds of items. the Ace stores and other independents usually have knowledgable workers that can order just about anything.
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09-14-2011, 02:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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That aluminum edging has a lip that sticks up above the edge of the countertop does it not? I would think it would tend to funnel water into the edge of the wood causing delamination problems. This is one problem I have with the T-moulding as well it lets water in and leads to delamination or complete distruction if the counter is made of particle board.
Perry
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09-14-2011, 09:23 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
That aluminum edging has a lip that sticks up above the edge of the countertop does it not? I would think it would tend to funnel water into the edge of the wood causing delamination problems.
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We used a bit of Vulkem under the top edge to help with this. Also used plywood, not particle board. Having worked with both the t-moulding and the overlap, I think the overlap w/sealant is "better" if this is your concern.
Shari
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09-14-2011, 09:47 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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How do you bend the aluminum around the corners? Also I was wondering how it would look on the existing 1981 Tables and Counters. Are the screw holes predrilled or is that something you determine? I would think the aluminum would be more durable than the plastic OEM junk. Of course if I end up buying a 250ft roll I guess it is a moot point.
Perry
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09-14-2011, 11:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
How do you bend the aluminum around the corners?
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For the overlap moulding - we just bent it by hand, it's pretty soft. We made a point to align the pre-drilled screw holes so there wasn't going to be a screw on the outside curve, attached it along one side and just bent it around the corner and used a rubber mallet to get it tight. Then we cut the last leg to the proper length. No special tools required.
For the T-moulding - we had to cut the "T" off the back to bend the trim around the corners. You do have to have a special adjustable router blade to put the receiving grove in the edge of the countertop.
As far as the look is concerned, I don't specifically know what 1981 tables & counters look like from memory - but I'm sure it would look fine. TBRich's photos show it in a 2006 Bambi (which is a beautiful trailer in person!) - the look is timeless IMO.
Shari
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09-15-2011, 05:59 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Shari do you think they make this same trim with a pewter finish on it to match the rest of the trim in my 81 Excella II? The existing trim is a dark copper color which I am guess would be pewter. My tables and counters are fine but they need new trim.
Perry
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09-15-2011, 07:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,707
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
Shari do you think they make this same trim with a pewter finish on it to match the rest of the trim in my 81 Excella II? The existing trim is a dark copper color which I am guess would be pewter. My tables and counters are fine but they need new trim.
Perry
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Don't know...not likely.
Shari
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09-15-2011, 10:41 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
1972 23' Safari
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,356
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I probably have 10' left of black plastic T moulding left when I redid the folding table in my 72 Tradewind. We cut the table down as it was too large and heavy to fold out over the gaucho. I wanted to use the MD metal trim but the T moulding was the best fit.
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09-16-2011, 12:07 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1985 31' Limited
Nellysford
, Virginia
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 139
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichHog
I probably have 10' left of black plastic T moulding left when I redid the folding table in my 72 Tradewind. We cut the table down as it was too large and heavy to fold out over the gaucho. I wanted to use the MD metal trim but the T moulding was the best fit.
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Where did you buy that?
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09-16-2011, 11:39 AM
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New Member
1979 31' Sovereign
1998 34' Excella 1000
Indian Trail
, North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4
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1979 counter trim
I called Outwater Plastics and they have a 250 ft minimum on the wood T-trim. I only need about 10 ft - any other suggestions? Don't know what I'd do with the other 240 ft.
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09-16-2011, 06:11 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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VTS has brown T-moulding I believe. There was another company I found but the link is on my work computer. They did not have the wood grain moulding. I may end up with the stuff at VTS.
Perry
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09-16-2011, 06:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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I found this company and I sent them an email. They have lots of stuff.
T-MOULDING COLOR MATCHES
Perry
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