Originally Posted by wheel interested
I would like to explore the nuances and ramifications of walking away from anger...
whatz the matter, NOT enough traffic at the save/defend websites???
pot stirring r u C' ?
u posted recently in one of the MANY threads on the wb' how much u enjoyed the mud-wrestling HERE
SO far this thread had avoided that...
AND there is PLENTY of THAT plastered on the forums already.
IF in fact the 1st love/loyalty is ARF...
WHY try to provoke more about these issues in a thread where it isn't.
the on and on and on about the wb and the childish ex members playing in the their OWN back yard now...
HURTs ARF when it TRIES to dominate the portal page here.
yes it HURTs this place and the overall a/s community members who largely DO NOT care about the wb' much.
or have their OWN approach to trying to morph
and savewally wasn't started to save wally.
it was started to SAVE AIR FORUMS from the repetitive stress of wacking the wb' here everyday in dozens of threads...
once the NEGATIVE feedback about ALL of those threads peaked,
savewally was WISELY started to focus (and CONTROL) those discussions...on a DIFFERENT website.
wally's name as used by the club was NEVER at risk.
the name change was NEVER going to happen and savewally had nothing to do with REALLY effecting ANY changes...
same with the thor products INCLUSION in the wb', THAT was never going to happen either.
THIS place was USED by the dozen or so wb' members who CLAIMED to be doing something important for the REST of membership...
when what they were REALLY doing was something important for THEMSELVES...
as in SELF PROMOTION, which continues but predictably
has worked AGAINST any efforts at real change.
NOT ONE change has resulted in the wb' as a result of ANY commotion by the core/primary savew' group.
it could be claimed that AWARENESS was raised by that group and their efforts...
but that awareness was already happening and enabled by modern communications (like arf) more so that ANY direct action at savew'
ok there's yer mud, now start slinging.