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Old 02-12-2016, 02:50 PM   #29
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Ray - That picture was taken at the last turnout before the extremely twisty section of HW1 that connects with HW101 to the North. We did the North and South HW1 coastal runs as shake down trips when we purchased the AS last Spring. Wonderful memories and we verified we could climb steep grades, make sharp turns, and cover enough miles to put smiles on our faces. Hope your friends like their trip too. Pat
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Old 02-12-2016, 03:07 PM   #30
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PKI... thank you for the update.

The only difference between traveling Miles and Smiles is the....S.

Living the Dream and Living IN the Dream are just how our imaginations can manipulate some discomfort with the freedom of traveling with an Airstream or any other trailer. Many on this Forum take it for granted.

Some see fields of yellow flowers as an allergy problem. Others beauty.

Death Valley rumors running rampant in southern Nevada is that this years "Spring Bloom" will be one to see. Maybe a bit too rampant for me. A mini bloom in Castle Rock, Colorado will do me just fine.
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Old 02-12-2016, 03:11 PM   #31
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Cruel and Unusual punishment!

This is not the kind of thread I want to read After just selling my third Airstream, and Before even finding my fourth. Good thread, should make me look all the harder.
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Old 02-12-2016, 03:29 PM   #32
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OldVW... look at it this way.

You made three new owners happy.
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Old 02-12-2016, 03:57 PM   #33
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OldVW... look at it this way.

You made three new owners happy.
Yes, the new owners are always smiling, I'm crying, and the dog always looks at me like....are you crazy?
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:10 PM   #34
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My wife and I own a 1995 Airstream Classic Limited that we bought new. We have been dry camping all over in CA and AZ for years. In 1996 I installed a 2kw Trace Engr inverter so we can make coffee and run the microwave in the AM without the use of a generator. In addition we have 400 watts of solar on top of the AS so in the spring and summer our generator use is minimal. When our grandchildren were young we would take them to a popular lake above Sonora, CA. The roads and campsites were tight for our trailer and TV so we would walk or ride bicycles until we found a suitable site and entry and exit. Now that the grandchildren have children of their own they still along with our own children join us for the camping trips. My wife and I have about 152000 miles on our AS which includes 5 trips to the east coast from CA. We both agree that in 1995 when we bought the AS we made a good choice.
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:14 PM   #35
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Ray: When I bought my 58 Caravanner I knew full well that no Airstream at any cost new, used, restored or highly modified would meet my needs which are: usable in the very most extreme weather conditions 24/7, have 11' ground clearance, simple, cheap, move all systems out under the awning for nice weather, no winterizing necessary, supportable with a trip to Wallmart, open concept and contents moved in tv, cook for 20 people. Now 2180 pounds and 1,000 in TV. So.... fuel: wood, kerosene, gasoline, D cell batteries, candles, propane in 1 lb bottles refillable from 20 pounder. Chassis: dual fuel 3500 watt electric start generator on tongue, spare tire on rear modified bumper. 100 % gut inside. Rig never changes weight, balance and CG. Twin independent air bag suspension w/11" lift, electric front jack. Fresh combustion air input and chimneys vent thru roof hatches each with a house attic wind powered turbine. Slant ramp entry. Inflatable furniture, folding: chairs, tables, stands, camp kitchens, and foldable "Little Red Wagon" Pure sine wave inverter , 100% duty air compressor. Trojan batteries. Some contents names: Coleman, Intec, Viair, NuWave, Cuisinart, Go Power, and General Electric. Rig has no tanks or water/propane/12v or 110v lines. Uses 40 milk jugs for water. 20 each 1 pound propane for point source use. Hot water for shower etc via pressurized 32 quart 45,000 Btu turkey fryer. Contents are set up/broken down as needed. Total invested: $11,000.
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:32 PM   #36
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It would be fun to hear from those who have taken their AS to Alaska - via the Alaska Marine Highway aka the ferry.

We ferried to Newfoundland this past summer and it was a great experience. I wonder if the on/off is as smoothe on the Alaska route.

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Old 02-12-2016, 05:14 PM   #37
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Ray, thanks so much for this thread. I love it! It's making me proud of every dent ding & scratch. When I'm not in my camper I'm hanging in my hammock.
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Old 02-12-2016, 06:56 PM   #38
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Imagine the roads during the 1930's to 1950's in the USA. Imagine the Airstream during this same period of time. What has changed since this generation of travelers have retired and passed on a tradition, yet lost on Airstream owners today.

It is not the Airstream that has changed. Many of these older Airstreams are still being used and restored today. A larger percentage of older/antique Airstreams remain than any other single brand of travel trailer. Consider that thought.

People have changed. Each "new owner" has lowered their expectations of the current Airstream models as incapable of handling anything but "level paved road travel".

This is due to several factors.

-Cost of an Airstream.

-Concern that the aluminum skin can be dinged, scratched or clad in mud, dust, dirt, grit or cow paddy fenders.

-The convenience of RV Parks, paved roads to places that were not paved in the past and just a new generation of owners considering their Airstream is more of a status symbol than an actual "home on wheels" where there are no motels, hotels or RV Parks.

-The belief that the Airstream is no longer built to the same standards as the original intent and design, which was capable for all kinds of travel, weather conditions and taking abuse of unlevel, wash board and pot holed lesser traveled roads for Boondocking.

This is NOT why I have an Airstream, having a spotless clean trailer and parked among other spotless other trailer brands, RV's and Buses at an RV Park. There are some of us with Vintage and Late Model Airstreams that use our trailer for "camping". The original vision of a riveted durable aluminum skinned trailer.

A modern Airstream is much improved over the decades. The only limitation of your Airstream... is yourself. An Airstream is not a Fair Weather camper. Although an Airstream is NOT an All Season / Full Timing trailer for colder climates. Neither is a tent in three feet of snow at -7F.

An increase of optional uses for an Airstream has arrived and available in the Boondocking Thread. It is a learning experience, as many have never had an opportunity to learn that their Airstream has limitations, but not to the point of being safely parked in a garage and used for gatherings at a RV Park.

The tradition of trailer camping is changing with the smaller travel trailers on the market. These are populating the Off the Grid and Base Camps. They are no more or less capable than your Airstream. They are not limited by the owner's inability to push their towing skills further away from the crowded RV Parks. I have seen them increasing among a new, younger, more ambitious outdoor camper.

I just want to remind all Airstream owners alike... an Airstream is capable of whatever was possible in the past, today. It is the limitations of the owner, not our trailer.

I do not abuse the limitations of my 2014 International. I do not abuse my health just for getting a point across. Improve your options by pushing your limited abilities to travel and explore. It is not for everyone. So I need no lesson in restricting my travels so my Airstream is as pristine as the day we wrote the large check to purchase, sales taxes and annual renewals of plates and insurance. What a wasted investment in time and money to be "status quo".

Wear out your Airstream in the next ten, twenty... thirty years. Make it your mission this season to improve YOURSELF and maintain your Airstream to fulfill its purpose... to take your home wherever and whenever time permits. Sell it to someone who will restore or carry on the Airstream tradition... go anywhere, any place to where the roads become a trail and then camp there.

Some prefer to do be cautious and succeed in doing so. Others go beyond the limitations of the majority and understand that the only thing preventing their doing more at the present time is... time, not the want to explore the capabilities of their Airstream.
I always believed that my Airstream is better and tougher than the rest. And once I got past the first dent and panel replacement I got over my anxiety.
When they are new and shinie they appear to be somewhat vulnerable and delicate.
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Old 02-12-2016, 07:32 PM   #39
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Frankly, Frank... you have solved the Riddle of the Airstream Sphinx.

A little ding will do you, and me and everyone else.

I purchased my Airstream in Denver the end of 2014. New on the lot. A month later I attached two of these all weather vent covers on top. My Airstream is stored in our RV garage attached to our home.

Hail dents were found on the top and a few on the curved top aluminum. Maybe 10, more or less. I was not counting. The dealer probably would not recall any hail in the area, ever hmmmm... especially if they had any hail found on their lot, of course. Well, they did. I have the proof. They may have the insurance check as far as I know. Car lots in Colorado have regular hail damaged vehicle sales...

You are so correct in getting over those "medals" in active Airstream Service. They are visible to you, but not so much for anyone else. Getting that first ding, the first brush with a bush along the lower edge of our trailer is part of "breaking in our trailers".

I had an email from a guy who found that his 25 foot Airstream was a bit tight and opted to sell it and purchased a nice used 30 footer last week. On the way home he was in a tight spot at a service station while refueling a person offered to help guide him out.

Several thousand dollars of damage to the Airstream, later, and damage as well to the tow vehicle.

Those of you begrudging the ding or scratches on the side of your Pride and Joy... NOW have someone to compare with obvious damage compared to your dings, and so soon after possession.

I purchased a "spare set" of gravel guards that will fit my 25 footer. If necessary, I will replace the hammered ones with shiny new stainless steel panels, if ever necessary. That is what the panels are for... to take the gravel "hits" where you expect it.

Those of you ready to spend thousands of dollars to repair those less obvious dings and scratches... save it for traveling proud in your trailer.

Each of these distractions may be a mysterious UFO making contact and some have a story. Whichever... make a good story out of it and post it on this Thread. Why should I be looking forward to future dings... because it is proof that I am telling you the truth about Boondocking Adventures. That is why.

Airstreams are meant to be used, not stored in a sterile garage more than one week at a time.
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Ray: Hard not to gloat when a winning combination blows everybody out of the water. God love neophytes.
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I may need a shorter AS!...hmmmm
Why? We have taken our 31' Airstream all over the country. It's been towed through the trackless desert in the Southwest, we've boondocked in it in California, up route 1 in California, down cow paths in Pennsylvania (yes, I had to check to make sure the bridge was tall enough for the trailer), through the Tail of the Dragon in North Carolina, camped in National Forests, in BLM areas, in RV resorts, in COA parks, people's backyards, truckstops, and an open field in Jackson Center.
You don't need a shorter trailer, just be careful in tight situations.
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Old 02-13-2016, 07:44 AM   #42
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Why? We have taken our 31' Airstream all over the country. It's been towed through the trackless desert in the Southwest, we've boondocked in it in California, up route 1 in California, down cow paths in Pennsylvania (yes, I had to check to make sure the bridge was tall enough for the trailer), through the Tail of the Dragon in North Carolina, camped in National Forests, in BLM areas, in RV resorts, in COA parks, people's backyards, truckstops, and an open field in Jackson Center.
You don't need a shorter trailer, just be careful in tight situations.
Great advice!!! Thanks!!

No intention to derail this thread...but, do you think Dragons would prefer Tabasco or Picante' with cilantro?... 😬😗😏
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