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02-10-2007, 11:50 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2004 28' Classic
Chula Vista
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 82
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Lets talk Hensley Arrow Hitches
Hi All,
We have a 2004, 28' Classic with a Hensley hitch. The hitch works as advertised especially when a double trailer rig goes flying by at 70 mph. We've pulled the trailer about 2,700 miles since we bought it, this past November.
Now the confession: I've only unhitched the trailer twice, each time to leave it at the storage facility. WE have the darnest time getting the whole thing lined up to attach the trailer to the truck. We've been married 37 years and I really thought we knew how to communicate with each other, that is until the "Hensley hitch came into our lives.
Any of you "pros" out there have any suggestions or tips that can help us figure out how to get the whole hitching process done efficiently?
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02-10-2007, 11:55 AM
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hi rover and welcome to the forums...
there are many threads here already on this topic.
so search a little.
i'm not inclined to repost but others may...
repetition is the key. hook;unhook, hook;unhook and so on...
here is a thread that does have great tips on the hitching/unhitching process...
and photos too!
http://www.airforums.com/forum...de-26279.html?
and many other haha related issues...
enjoy what is there and add your experiences or user tips...
it's all good
2air'
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02-10-2007, 12:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2022 16' Bambi
2022 Atlas
Sioux Falls
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 257
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Hitching Woes
we also had a heck of a time trying to hook. We finally realized that getting the angle matched was the problem. Getting the hitch bar and receiver straight is only half the battle. The pin will not set if the angle of the drop bar and hitch reciever aren't the same. After we realized this, hitching is a snap. Look in the manual and it will show how to do it, although we don't do the measuring thing, we just eye ball it. Hope this helps. 'shaker
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2006 34' Classic LTD
2010 Ford F250 PSD
Hensley Arrow Hitch
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02-10-2007, 12:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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2air provided a good link.
In my line of work, acronyms are capitalized. For the benefit of future searches, "haha" is short for Hensley Arrow Hitch Apparatus.
Tom
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02-10-2007, 12:36 PM
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Desert Fox
1985 31' Sovereign
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 250
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Hook ups
I made my life easy when I bought two yellow fiberglals sticks that have a magnet on them. One goes on hich ball and one on the trailer. Just line them up and back up ontil the one on the ball hich falls off. No more argument or hard feelings between us. They are available from your local AS dealer or from any RV store.The cost is under $25 but surre saves on bad feelings.
Regards from Russell in sunny Tucson Az.
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02-10-2007, 12:43 PM
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Rivet Master
Hampton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,126
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And I would only add that the key is, as someone said, getting the angle correct. So what I do is leave the hitch in the A/S, back up close with the tow vehicle and make sure the angle looks "right". Then transfer the hitch into the TV and back up. Works like a champ.
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2019 Airstream Classic 30RBT, 2021 Ford F350 King Ranch 4X4 w/6.7L Diesel, Hensley, ACI #1313
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02-10-2007, 01:19 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2022 16' Bambi
2022 Atlas
Sioux Falls
, Arkansas
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 257
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Backing up with to the unit then eye balling the angle of the hitch and drop bar seems to work for us. We tried the leaving the drop bar in the hitch method and not only was it more work, but we felt like we would be equipping the less than honest element by providing all the euipment to drive off with our trailer. Just a thought. 'shaker
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2006 34' Classic LTD
2010 Ford F250 PSD
Hensley Arrow Hitch
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02-10-2007, 01:28 PM
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Rivet Master
Hampton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,126
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Yes, I would never recommend leaving the drop bar (or whatever it is called) installed. I only meant while hitching.
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2019 Airstream Classic 30RBT, 2021 Ford F350 King Ranch 4X4 w/6.7L Diesel, Hensley, ACI #1313
travelwiththeslowskys.com
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02-10-2007, 02:05 PM
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GStephens
1982 31' Limited
1953 25' Cruiser
Hamilton
, Texas
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 563
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nilesrob is correct in post #6. Also read 2air's the ultimate haha user's guide that he referenced in post #2. I've pulled some sort of trailer most every day for 45 years in the ranching business. For me the Hensley is the easiest hitching arrangement I've ever used.
With the typical ball or typical gooseneck, you not only have to line up the hitch and ball side to side, but you have to stop directly over the ball. A fifth wheel works much like a Hensley. With the Hensley or a fifth wheel, you don't have to worry about where to stop over the ball.
As posted above, watch the angle and height of the stinger and hitch box prior to backing up. My truck hitch is 18 and 3/4 inches high from the ground. I always raise or lower the trailer so that the upper inside surface of the Hensley box also measures 18 3/4 inches. Unhooking and hooking back up is a breeze if this is done and the angles are anywhere near correct. Practice, practice, practice.
My wife and I communicate well and she has always been most willing to help me back into a spot or hitch up, but since getting the Hensley, I never ask my wife to help anymore with hitching up. It really is simple. Much easier than a ball. If you are having trouble with the Hensley, then you'd really have trouble with the typical ball hitch.
When my wife does help me back into a spot, she uses a walkie talkie to communicate with me. I just turn mine on and she does all the talking. I do all the listening. With the walkie talkies, I don't have to see her for signals. We've also found that using the directions "passenger side" and "driver's side" rather than "right" and "left" works wonders. That way no one has to think. It is obvious to both of us which way "passenger side" is.
One final suggestion that help me, I never turn around. I sit in a normal position in the driver's seat and look through the center mounted windshield mirror. By looking at the Airstream window frames in the mirror and can usually hit the hitch dead center. At least with the Hensley, (knock on wood) I've yet to not be able to hook up, first time, every time.
GStephens
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02-10-2007, 02:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 30' Classic
San Jose
, California
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 1,664
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Ever since I got this hitch mirror, hitching up has been pretty simple. I highly recommend it.
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03-01-2007, 08:04 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,570
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We have always hooked up our Hensley using extendable antennas glued to strong magnets as guides. This is much like the commercial product mentioned above except that they can be stored collapsed. One goes on the hitch and one on the stinger and then I aim the two together while backing. My wife refuses to give me backing directions because of my notorious lack of understanding of her directions. She is right, darn it!
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03-01-2007, 09:23 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2003 22' International CCD
Whittier
, California
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 358
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When hitching up, be sure the tension in the weight distribution bars is totally backed off so that the mechanism is loose. If you don't, the unit points down in front and is not parallel to the ground. Really tough to hitch up in that mode.
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03-01-2007, 09:29 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Plain and simple, the more you do it, the better you get.
At first we thought that the Hensley would beat us. Now I hook it up by myself first time, every time.
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03-02-2007, 06:43 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' International CCD FB
Rochester
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fr8tshaker
we also had a heck of a time trying to hook. We finally realized that getting the angle matched was the problem. Getting the hitch bar and receiver straight is only half the battle. The pin will not set if the angle of the drop bar and hitch reciever aren't the same. After we realized this, hitching is a snap. Look in the manual and it will show how to do it, although we don't do the measuring thing, we just eye ball it. Hope this helps. 'shaker
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What is the recommended technique for hitching/unhitching when the angle of the drop bar changes relative to the receiver at the point of engagement, as may happen on certain sites? For example, on a site that is otherwise level but where the approach is on a moderate incline. If the TV's back wheels are on the level section and the front wheels are on the incline, the angle of the drop bar will change as the TV backs up.
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WBCCI #1521 New England Unit
07 25' International CCD FB
06 Chevy Duramax/Allison
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03-02-2007, 06:46 AM
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1 Rivet Short
1989 25' Excella
By The Bay
, Rhode Island
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GStephens
When my wife does help me back into a spot, she uses a walkie talkie to communicate with me. I just turn mine on and she does all the talking. I do all the listening. With the walkie talkies, I don't have to see her for signals. We've also found that using the directions "passenger side" and "driver's side" rather than "right" and "left" works wonders. That way no one has to think. It is obvious to both of us which way "passenger side" is.
GStephens
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While I don't use an HA-I could have written this post myself!
The walkie talkies and passenger/driver side lingo eliminates all the confusion (and yelling!). We have a great system now...
Bill
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03-02-2007, 06:49 AM
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More than one rivet loose
Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
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When I got my new truck I installed a backup camera on the top of the reciever. Makes single person hitching up a snap.
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Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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03-02-2007, 06:53 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim A.
We have always hooked up our Hensley using extendable antennas glued to strong magnets as guides. This is much like the commercial product mentioned above except that they can be stored collapsed. One goes on the hitch and one on the stinger and then I aim the two together while backing. My wife refuses to give me backing directions because of my notorious lack of understanding of her directions. She is right, darn it!
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Tim,
Great idea that! Was going to build one myself but hadn't thought to use antennas to make them easy to store.
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'77' Minuet 6 Metre, behind a 2005 stock Jeep Rubicon with Equa-L-Zer hitch.
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03-02-2007, 07:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
, Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royce
Tim,
Great idea that! Was going to build one myself but hadn't thought to use antennas to make them easy to store.
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I was at PEP Boys yesterday and found extendable magnetic parts retrieves’ in the cheap tool bin section. They have 2 different sizes, if you pull the handle off of the larger one the smaller one slides right in, you will have to remove the pocket clip by taking the screw off of the top of the smaller one. I did have to round the end of one of the larger one to get the smaller one to fit in. I will paint a orange section on the smaller ones and have a nice long collapsible hither upper guide. I will post a picture this weekend in the under $100.00 mod section and the haha user guide section. Cost total was around $8.00 plus I now have 4 magnetic parts retrievers.
BTW you need 2 to get the necessary hight.
Thanks Jim
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2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
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03-02-2007, 07:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 28' Safari SE
Currently Looking...
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 703
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You neeh the hitch helper
We were experiencing the same problems until we started uising the Hitch Helper. We actually bought it when we picked up the new trailer (with Hensley Arrow) but hadn't used it. We have decreased our hitching time from 30 to 40 minutes to ~10 minutes. Buy it today.
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03-02-2007, 08:09 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1996 28' Excella
Okemos
, Michigan
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 305
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Communications while hitching
We have a brand new set of walkie talkies for this season and a new set of those flourescent yellow magnetic sticks. With a diesel, it is tough to yell instructions back and forth. To make matters worse, last year Dodge had a "safety" recall on the diesel trucks such that if you open the driver's side door while the truck is in gear, the horn starts blaring "honk, honk, honk" It really makes you popular in campgrounds.
As mentioned previously and in the other thread, getting the vertical angle to match between the truck and the hitch makes things work so much better. You just use the weight distribution rods to tilt the stinger to the right angle and the trailer jack to set the height. The hitch helper is nice too, even for a conventional ball hitch mount.
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Okemos, MI
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