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Old 08-17-2011, 11:32 PM   #15
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I just installed Michelin LTX M/S2's on our 2008 Tundra CrewMax (275/65x18, load range E). We also had the previous model Michelin LTX M/S on our old Chevy crewcab pickup, and they were long-wearing, quiet tires with good traction, although we rarely drive on snow or ice.

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Old 08-17-2011, 11:39 PM   #16
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Brian must have gone through those tires he hadn't bought yet when he started this thread 5 years ago. How did they do?

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Old 06-01-2012, 06:19 AM   #17
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We got close to 80k miles on the 245 Firestone Transforce HT, and it looks like the 245 Michelin LTX/AT2's will need to be replaced after 40k miles.

LTX's were great for daily driving, but the HT's were better for towing.
Not sure what our next set is.

Brian, it's been a while... I'd be very interested to know what worked, or didn't.

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Old 06-01-2012, 02:22 PM   #18
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I done everything from Mich LTX A/T, Revos, BFG A/T KOs, and Mich LTX M/S2. All load E, but some in various sizes from 235/85 to 245/75 to 265/75.

Far and away the best tire for towing and on road is the Mich LTX MS2! I am running 235/85s which I like to reduce the RPM a bit and the speedo is balls on accurate with the "oversize".

If you plan on lots off road adventures, then the KOs are the hands down winner.

The Revos were a good all around tire, but not nearly as good offroad as I would have liked.

FWIW I have not taken the MS2s off road yet, but I do not expect them to do well off road.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:44 PM   #19
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I have used various Michelin LTX versions off road and in nasty snow and they all have had great traction. I have found that even when pretty worn, traction is still very good. Part of the traction battle is also a good vehicle with 4WD.

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Old 03-26-2013, 11:23 AM   #20
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Just had to replace 2 Bridgestones to pass state inspection after 28k, does this seem right, dealer said sidewall was worn to second wear bar even though tires were rotated every 5k. Thoughts? DW not too happy about the early expense although getting teo takeoffs sy a better price than i could get online
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Old 03-26-2013, 12:52 PM   #21
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No Dana, that doesn't sound right for a good tire. The Goodrich tires that were the OEM tires on our Tundra looked like they'd last about 25,000 miles (we replaced them before then). The Michelin LTX A/T2, LR E, we replaced them with are at 65,000 miles and still have a few more miles on them, though not much.

Last time I had Bridgestones was when they came on an SUV a couple of decades ago. I think they, being OEM tires, didn't last all that long. My impression, possibly coming from mythology, is that OEM tires, even with the same name (these were Desert Duelers), are made to not last with the hope you'll buy replacements of the same brand soon to make up for how cheaply they sell them to the auto manufacturer.

Of course, there could be alignment problems, but usually that means one side wears before the other. Or air pressure which means either the center or the edges wear first. But if they are wearing evenly, I suspect it is telling you to buy another brand.

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Old 03-26-2013, 01:11 PM   #22
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I agree with you Gene, something sounds awry. I have Bridgestone Revo 2's on my Excursion... This will be my 5th set of Bridgestone Revo all have gotten high miles even considering daily 4x4/off road and towing use. Not saying all Bridgestones are equal or that other tires are not as good or better, but I have had great luck with these. They have enough tooth to grip off road, but not enough to be really noisy on the highway.
Whatever tire, they should wear evenly. I have oversized tires on my Excursion... I have to physically check each tire when I have either new tires or Rotate/ Balance one to ensure the proper inflation. The recommended inflation listed in the book is for the skinny stock tires. The last time I bought tires, when the truck was pulled out of the garage, the tires were all inflated to a consistent 32#....25# underinflated. So I learned it is always good to double check!
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So even though the sidewalls on these Bridgestone Duelers say 44 psi max, the door post on the Tundra Double Cab says 30 front and 32 back. the Service Advisor who has a Tundra says he used to run his Bridgestones at 38, (but now runs Michelins because they are made of "harder" rubber and last longer) making a bit of a rougher ride but to keep them from wearing on the edges because of the softer rubber and sidewall that the Bridgestone Duelers have....

any thoughts on this? c_Lewis, are you saying that the 32# is actually 25# underinflated? or that it was 32 front and 25 back?
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I've probably been running them underinflated then because he said the edges were wearing evenly not one side or the other..... so i guess i will research what psi I can run....
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So even though the sidewalls on these Bridgestone Duelers say 44 psi max, the door post on the Tundra Double Cab says 30 front and 32 back. the Service Advisor who has a Tundra says he used to run his Bridgestones at 38, (but now runs Michelins because they are made of "harder" rubber and last longer) making a bit of a rougher ride but to keep them from wearing on the edges because of the softer rubber and sidewall that the Bridgestone Duelers have....

any thoughts on this? c_Lewis, are you saying that the 32# is actually 25# underinflated? or that it was 32 front and 25 back?
I must first say that i am no expert on the subject...just what I have learned from my own truck.
My bridgestone revo 2's or the biggest tire that will fit in the wheel well without rubbing. 285/75 r16 load range is E on mine. The max psi on my tires is 80psi. That makes 32lbs a little less that what is needed.
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The recommended pressure for the Tundra is for when you use it like sedan with a LR C tire. Load up cinder blocks or lots of lumber, and you should increase the pressure. When changing to LR E tires, some increase is good for those tires, but not to 80 psi.

I called Michelin a couple of times when I switched to the LR E tires and the consensus was that for just driving around, 42 front and 45 rear would be good. For towing with our trailer, increase each by 3 psi. I often forget to let out that extra air pressure when we come home from a trailer trip.

Tire wear has been even across the tread.

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Agreed gene, i was not implying that 80# is appropriate, just noting the max pressure is listed at 80# not 40# for my particular tire.
I run my tires at about 55#.
From both a safety and tire wear perspective it is important to do your homework to make sure you are set up right. The tire shop couldn't give me any info beyond what was in the book for stock tires. I ended up calling bridgestone to get the info i needed.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:24 AM   #28
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When we still had the OEM BFGoodrich Rugged Trails on our Tundra, I ran 44 psi front and rear, especially when towing. I determined that 44 psi was appropriate by using the method described below. (Also, the Rugged Trails were passenger car tires; and 44 psi was the maximum pressure printed on the sidewalls.)

When our 2002 Prius was new, I experimented to determine what tire pressure would give the best fuel economy and still allow the tires to wear evenly. The Prius is a much different setup from the Tundra, as there is a lot of weight on the front two tires from the gasoline engine, a big electric motor and a special, computer-controlled, torque transfer case that switches between the two. This extra weight causes the front tires to wear much faster (and unevenly), especially if they are under inflated.

Here in Phoenix, since we get very little rain, our driveway has a light coating of very fine dust on it that looks like sand-colored baking flour. When you drive on it, the dust sticks to the rubber tread; and you can tell exactly which parts of the tire are touching the ground.

If a tire is under inflated, dust is deposited over the shoulder and onto the sidewall. If it's over inflated, the edges of the tread that should touch the ground are clean, with no dust. (Basically, the dust allows one to view the tire's contact patch.)

On our Tundra, I adjusted the front and rear tire pressure until dust was deposited only on the flat portion of the tread, and not over the shoulder. The tire pressure when this was achieved was 55 psi in the front tires and 65 psi in the rear (with our Bambi attached). After these pressures were determined, tire temperatures were monitored during a weekend camping trip to ensure that the tires were not heating up while on the road.

The tires on both our 2002 Prius and 2008 Tundra are wearing evenly. Our Prius has had three sets of Michelins on it, since it was purchased new; and all of the tires wore evenly until they were replaced.
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