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03-15-2011, 01:20 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1998 25' Safari
Buda
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 7
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Is 4WD much of a necessity?
Looking for a tow vehicle and have settled on a new silverado, but I was wondering if most airstreamers opt for 2wd.
Any advise would be helpful.
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03-15-2011, 01:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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You willbe surprised how many times it comes in handy. I had a fairly steep dirt driveway and it was essential just to get parked. I would definitely recommend it.
Zep
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03-15-2011, 01:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1973 31' Excella 500
Spring Green
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 265
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Our TV has 4WD, but not because of the Airstream. I also tow a 14' covered utility trailer, many times in winter road conditions here in Wisconsin. Without it I would be stuck, literally.
So, I would think two things would help you make the decision: Will you ever drive or tow your AS off road in conditions requiring 4WD? Are you going to use your TV for other purposes that may require 4WD?
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03-15-2011, 01:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 31' Excella
Abernathy
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 865
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If you consider boondocking at all, it is a must.
Get off on some out of the way meadow or off the pavement place and have a good rain move through and you will be a 4x4 fan for life.
I was in the Yellowstone area last June and it rained 5 days out of 7.
Had it not been for low range 4x4 to gracefully pull out of the camping area where we were, I might have been there for days longer.
One in our party pulling a 5th wheel only had 2wd, and had to have another tow vehicle with 4x4 pull his rig out.
The low range 4x4 also works great if you have to back uphill in any circumstance. Traditional reverse gears are not necessarily designed to push much of a load uphill.
Bite the bullet and do it....you will be glad you did.
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03-15-2011, 01:43 PM
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Moderator
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach
, Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 13,159
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We have one of each that we currently use as tow vehicles. Both of these are 3/4 ton Suburbans. One Suburban is a 2wd; the other is a 4wd. We use the 4wd very often when we travel out to Wyoming and up to Maine. We find the 4wd very useful on wet, muddy upgrades in campgrounds. Once while towing with the 2wd Suburban on a muddy upgrade, our forward progress stopped, and it took us a little while to get going again with the 2wd. In similar situations with the 4wd, we kept right on going.
We are in the process of shopping for a new tow vehicle. It will be a 4wd.
Brian
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03-15-2011, 01:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2022 30' Flying Cloud
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 209
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I have a 2WD. My next TV will be a 4WD. For the few times I needed it, it's well worth it. Usually had to get a friend with a 4WD to help me out. Wet grass after a good rain does it.
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03-15-2011, 02:07 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Northwestern Ontario
, - on the backside of the map and just above the big green spot
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 819
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4WD is one of those features that you may not use a lot - but when you need it - there isn't an easy substitute .....
Jay
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03-15-2011, 02:13 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 31' Classic
Pulaski
, Tennessee
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 261
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It isn't a necessity unless you plan to use it in the winter where you might have to deal with snow conditions or you go places where the roads are not paved, including some campgrounds. We have a 2wd but our next TV (in approx another 100k miles ) will be a 4wd. We've never been stuck but had a couple of close calls where the 4wd would have been nice to have. We also have 100 acres and that is the main reason we will get a 4wd.
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TAC AL-4
AIR 22763
07' Classic 31, 11' Dodge 3500 Cummins
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03-15-2011, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Colorado Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 739
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We mostly boondock and it is handy if not essential where we typically park. Sometimes just for peace of mind but worth it even then.
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'77' Minuet 6 Metre, behind a 2005 stock Jeep Rubicon with Equa-L-Zer hitch.
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03-15-2011, 02:29 PM
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Lost in America
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,156
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2WD is really only one wheel drive, if you have ever been stuck with one wheel stationary and the other spinning, you know this.
4WD is really two wheel drive, same principle, two axles.
Locking center, rear, and front differentials is true 4WD.
So yes, if you drive off the pavement, encounter snow or mud, or go anywhere with hills and mountains, 4WD is worth it. Locking diffs is for true off-roading if that is what you want to do.
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03-15-2011, 02:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 28' Safari S/O
Paradise
, California
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 3,446
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The 4WD trucks generally have lower tow/payload ratings than 2WD trucks, but is fairly minimal. I love my 4WD and would not own another truck without it after having had both. It gives me great peace of mind.
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"THE OLDER I GET, THE BETTER I WAS"
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03-15-2011, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,119
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I have it. Not a necessity. But, even as tight as I am, I was afraid not to get it. For one thing, it makes the truck easier to resell, if that is a concern down the road. Down side is that after 82000 miles I had to replace the ball joints (it is a dodge) and the front cv joints. so there could be some maintence costs. I have used it towing. Was glad it was there when I made a mistake in a parking area in yellowstone. But the tow truck would have got there in a half a day or so I guess. one other slight downside is hitching it. I needed a tow bar with a lot of drop to get the hitch height set. Our tow truck is also my wifes everyday ride, and we have used the 4wd several times in the last couple of winters. seems like more snow and ice every year. I guess I just cannot see buying a new truck and not getting 4wd.
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03-15-2011, 02:36 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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I would get it on mine. If you don't, at least take the locking differential for the rear axle. (actually whether you go 4WD or 2WD). It's not very expensive and turns that one wheel drive into a 2wd, and the 2 wheel drive 4X4 into a 3 wheel drive! Figger that one out!
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03-15-2011, 02:36 PM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 4,169
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Both my tow vehicles are 4wd. I have found 4wd necessary in several camping situations where the roads or camping pads are not paved. Even if the ground is firm and level, all it takes for a 2wd truck to lose traction is wet grass and trailer tires that have sunk slightly into the soil overnight, especially with a larger trailer like yours.
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03-15-2011, 02:42 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 3,328
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Our convertible is obviously not 4wd. It is also very tractionLESS on anything that is not solid pavement. My 150' gravel driveway is an 8*-6* slope. Thanks for my 455 Buick powered all wheel drive '75 Jeep 3/4 ton pick'em up truck I have no problems manuevering our AS around the property. I could consider it as a TV but the single digit gas mileage discourages that.
eil
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1966 Trade Wind
1971 Buick Centurion convertible
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1969 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight
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03-15-2011, 02:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2004 25' Classic
Prescott
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 623
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Is it a necessity? No, but as others have stated, it sure is nice to have. I have been at some campsites where you had to back the trailer up a decent slope going uphill that was not possible without the 4 wd engaged. Have also been stuck a few times in the grass, that took 4 wd to get out.
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03-15-2011, 03:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Oakley
, California
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,197
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My truck is 4wd because i also tow a boat and the ramps can be very entertaining in the busy summer months watching some of the 2wd try to pull their cooler laden toys outa the water. If you go with 2wd invest in an air locker like ARB for the rear axle, its money well spent.
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03-15-2011, 03:47 PM
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Ready-to-Travel
2012 30' International
Walkerton
, Virginia
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,168
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I'd get it because it is not that much more expensive and when you need it you really need it.
I think it will make your truck easier to sell when that time comes, too.
Pat
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03-15-2011, 04:15 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2011 23' FB International
2007 20' Safari
Irvine
, California
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 147
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How about all wheel drive, I have Lexus GX470 all wheel drive, replace the 4runner which was rear wheel drive. The tow capacity for Lexus is 6500 lb because it weight 5,500 lb where as 4runner was only 5,000 lb and towing capacity of 7,200 lb.
I have not gone to any off road, but it may come handy when driving to Alaska
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03-15-2011, 04:27 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,627
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We opted for a 2WD on our Tacoma since we don't do a lot of off-road...but we can lock the rear differential, which has come in handy a few times to get up a grade in a campground.
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