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Old 10-13-2004, 07:54 PM   #15
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It would be a lot easier if they put the duramax in a burb with the quad. Hands down the winner. Coming to a show room near you in 200?.
2006 is sounding like the next chance it might happen. I mean GM is just like Ford when it comes to keeping up with the Joneses....and Ford packs their diesel in their Excursion.....
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Old 10-13-2004, 08:54 PM   #16
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Apparently, Delphi and GM are having trouble mating QS with the bigger engine. Don't know what exactly is the problem but I hope they get it worked out. Seems GM hasn't worked on it very hard on solving the problem. Delphi is not happy with GM. Look for QS to be on Nissan's Titan and Armada in 2006.
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Old 10-13-2004, 09:26 PM   #17
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Diesel trucks are amazing these days. Not smelly, clumsy, etc. Ours is smooth, quiet and fun to drive. The power is amazing. The power is SO consistent. We have a Ford, but I'd buy diesel anyday. Tom
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Old 10-13-2004, 10:01 PM   #18
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On the plus side, my Duramax gets excellent economy, produces no visible soot, emits no detectable smells, and is little different in noise level than any large displacement gas engine.

On the down side, I had the pleasure of watching the dealer back my crew cab short bed out of a service bay today (they offer $11.95 oil changes for as long as you own the vehicle - can't pass that up). He went up, then back, then back a bit more, then up, then back, back, up, and finally got it out. What they do with crew cab long beds, I have no idea.

But really, I use mine for daily transportation, and it is not bad at all in standard parking lots.

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Old 10-13-2004, 11:29 PM   #19
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...What's the advice when considering between the two?
"DIESEL.!"
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Old 10-14-2004, 08:07 AM   #20
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Thank you everybody for your thoughts.

I guess one of the problems I'm having is that I just don't have enough experience towing a trailer to know how to evaluate my needs. I am somewhat nervous about being able to maneuver in tight spaces, especially at my home. So, I lean to the quadrasteer. But I don't want to be under powered when trying to get over Donner Summit on I-80, or not have a transmission that will go the distance, or break the bank because of fuel costs. So, I lean to the Duramax. I've owned my Toyota pick up for 14 years, so this will probably be a long term purchase. It there were a Duramax/Quadrasteer option I would do that.

I don't want to end up after a year wishing I had made a different choice. I guess I can always change if my tow vehicle doesn't work out the way I had hoped.

The whole trailer and truck buying experience is getting to be stressful. I'm going to need a quiet lake to take my AS to in order to recuperate when it is all done.
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Old 10-14-2004, 08:33 AM   #21
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Hey Mark. How is it at the mall or home depot. I have a 1500 ext short and find it is too long for some parking areas, some slots to short and some aisles too narrow for a clean pull in. Would really like that Q system on a big block.
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Hey Mark. How is it at the mall or home depot. I have a 1500 ext short and find it is too long for some parking areas, some slots to short and some aisles too narrow for a clean pull in. Would really like that Q system on a big block.
I am a regular at Lowe's - almost daily. Home Depot is easy here as Lowe's does 5 times the business - you can pull right up to the door at Home Depot. Occassionally I drop by the Sears store at the mall. I usually try and find a place out where there are few cars parked. I can squeeze into a space between two cars, but it is not easy and I seldom try. There are definitely times I miss my Astro van. And, if I'm not picking up anything big, I drive my wife's '87 Mercedes 190D. Yes, another diesel.

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Old 10-14-2004, 10:31 AM   #23
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Hey Frank,

I just exchanged my 04 2500 Q-Steer w/4.10 gears rated at 9300#
for an 04 2500 Q-Steer with 3.73 gears rated at 7300#.
(A buy back thing from GM)
The 4.10 gears were not needed for our 27' Overlander.

I love the Q-Steer! My 3/4 ton Burb turns sharper than most mid size sedans.
The Q-Steer tows similar to a 5th wheel. Check out Delphi's web site. Its a dream to parallel park.
Go to your local chevy dealer and ask to test drive Q-Steer. I think you will be impressed!

It is expensive. The q-steer option is $1995 and you also have to get autoride $1100. The 3/4 ton is a very serious tow rig. It comes pre-wired for trailer brakes. It has a 37.5 gal fuel tank. It has a 2000# pound pay load. Onstar and X-M radio.

Hope this helps.
There are several of us in the forum that have Q-Steer, but I may be the only with a Q-S burb.

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Abe, good to hear from you! I was wondering why you havn't posted to this thread. So you kept on having trouble with QS and GM bought your 'Burb back? Well that's great to hear that they did that. Good for GM. What's the difference in the gears? Does it drive different? Tow different?

Anyway, glad everything worked out in the end for you.
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I'm joining the fraternity that says "---there ain't no such thing as 'overkill'" when it comes to towing! I absolutely love the "growl" of that Duramax and the hill climbing - and descending - characteristics of the Allison! Total relaxation and confidence is a wonderful thing! The bit of "hip jarring" the 3500 dually imparts is a gentle reminder that this is a real "truck!" In addition, I'm getting a lot of exercise parking in the rear of supermarket lots - where there's room for 21' of truck! Love those "hips!"
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