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Old 12-23-2011, 09:26 AM   #15
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If you haven't had a truck before, I'd recommend the 8' bed. We were thinking we wanted the short bed, too, but the (used) truck we found had the 8' bed...and now I'm very, very glad we got it. We could have made do with the shorter bed, but this gives room to stretch out the stuff, and it'd be that much harder to get to stuff in the bed.

Also, the longer wheelbase is supposedly better for towing. We haven't towed with anything else (well, I towed a car on a dolly with the B190 for many miles, but this is an entirely different kind of towing), but my wife and I both feel like the rig is extremely stable at highway speeds, and that's a good feeling.

The downside is that suddenly you have a truck that's 21' long, which is actually LONGER than our B190 motorhome was (19' 8"). It makes parking lots much less fun even when not towing. But the trade-off is worth it, and I've gotten pretty good at slinging it around in tight lots.
I agree. When I buy it'll be an extended cab, long bed. It's kind of an odd duck, and I'll probably have to order, as these are kind of rare and usually in work truck configuration when found in stock.
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Old 12-23-2011, 09:42 AM   #16
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If you're going for the Ecoboost, you want the max tow pkg, rear camera is great, tailgate step is also nice, order the optional 36 gal fuel tank. The only issue may be the hitch weight which can limit how much stuff and people you throw in the truck. The truck will pull your trailer fine if you get a good sway hitch like a Hensley or ProPride. The turbo is awesome in the mountains!
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:41 AM   #17
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thanks for all the replies. here is some more info.

the 34 is 8000 dry with a tongue weight of 800. it has dual air conditioners and i think that lightens the tongue weight a bit. this combination is already longer than my garage and will sometimes be used around town. the short bed will fill my needs and i want the 4 doors. i've had a dakota pickup with a 6-1/2 ft bed for 20 years and it suits me fine. the shorter bed will keep me from doing things i really should not be doing. i just wish it was lower.

the current f-150 is more truck than the earlier years with more power, braking, size and payload. i believe i'm within towing ratings of gcwr 17,100, max trailer weight of 11,200 lbs. and max payload of 1900 lbs.
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Old 12-23-2011, 10:50 AM   #18
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"max payload of 1900 lbs" Be aware, that includes EVERYTHING? Passengers, dog, stuff in bed, driver, AND Tongue weight. Please don't make the mistake and lighten the tongue weight to reduce TV rear axle load!!!!! It must be a MINIMUM of 10% of total trailer weight and should be closer to 15%.

Regardless of your Truck's GCWR (and I still think you will quickly arrive close to 17,000lbs, I was 15,500 last time over the scales) I believe you will be over the RGAWR from the git go after you load all your groceries, and stuff for your trip.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:47 AM   #19
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My hitch weighs close to 100lbs. Also, 10 gallons of home grown wellwater. 20 lb. prpane tank for grill. {Not to mention the charcoal and charcoal grill and Dutch oven.} I could go on. Oh yeah, 3000kw genny and 2 gallon gas can. @ tool boxes and several milk crates with miscellaneous stuff. And up front 25 gallon blue boy Sal..
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Old 12-23-2011, 12:21 PM   #20
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My 2010 F150 5.4 Supercrew 4x4 max tow 5.5 bed pulls my 28ft CCD just fine and safely with a good equalizer hitch it handles the tongue weight properly.Watch everything that you buy for the trailer with one thing in mind...Weight.Every ounce adds up.The 2009 and up F150 are a completely different animal from previous year trucks when it comes to towing.Ecoboost is a new thing and so-far so good but a V6 is still a V6 even with @ turbo's hanging on the side.No substitute for cubic inches and yes size does matter..........

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POI...the last time I toed "dry" was on the way home from the dealer.

I've tried to find the rear axle weight rating for the 150 without success, as noted above that would be my biggest concern.

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Old 12-23-2011, 12:49 PM   #22
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we've had the pleasure of driving six F150's since Ford introduced the Supercab model in 1996, and pulling our Airstreams with them for the last three years. they've performed well and and have been comfortable and reliable for us.


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After much research I’ve narrowed down my preferences for my truck. As equipped above it lists at $42,790 and the dealer is offering it at $300.00 over invoice.
a good offer from the dealer, I think. check the PM I sent you - I have an idea that might help you answer your questions!


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As a truck is the least desirable vehicle from the standpoint of road performance and safety....
I respectfully disagree, based upon my many years as a professional rescuer. as or more important than the vehicle itself are the skills, competence, and judgement of the driver.

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So a non-truck SUV of the proper sort is just as good a choice, IMO, and more likely to have qualities while solo that make it superior to a 1/2T truck. A Ford Flex is an example.
as a matter of fact, we love our Flex! a great vehicle to drive! Ford rates it for a trailer at 4500 GVW and 450 TW.

what it will really do is another discussion, but if you'd like to, ask Andrew T for his opinions. better than that, ask Andrew T for his actual experience.

we're planning on using a Flex for a transcontinental ten-thousand mile caravan in 2013.


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"max payload of 1900 lbs" Be aware, that includes EVERYTHING?

Regardless of your Truck's GCWR.... I believe you will be over the RGAWR from the git go after you load all your groceries, and stuff for your trip.
the good news / bad news reality is that the numbers, although very important, are not necessarily the final arbiter of actual performance and capability.


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My 2010 F150 5.4 Supercrew 4x4 max tow 5.5 bed pulls my 28ft CCD just fine and safely with a good equalizer hitch it handles the tongue weight properly.Watch everything that you buy for the trailer with one thing in mind...Weight.Every ounce adds up.The 2009 and up F150 are a completely different animal from previous year trucks when it comes to towing.Ecoboost is a new thing and so-far so good but a V6 is still a V6 even with @ turbo's hanging on the side.No substitute for cubic inches and yes size does matter..........

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I agree with everything you say except...

"a V6 is still a V6 even with @ turbo's hanging on the side. No substitute for cubic inches and yes size does matter"

That's old school thinking. The 5.4 and ecoboost are pretty evenly matched if you look at the specs, but the turbos will leave you behind and gasping for air at altitude.
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"max payload of 1900 lbs" Be aware, that includes EVERYTHING? Passengers, dog, stuff in bed, driver, AND Tongue weight. Please don't make the mistake and lighten the tongue weight to reduce TV rear axle load!!!!! It must be a MINIMUM of 10% of total trailer weight and should be closer to 15%.

Regardless of your Truck's GCWR (and I still think you will quickly arrive close to 17,000lbs, I was 15,500 last time over the scales) I believe you will be over the RGAWR from the git go after you load all your groceries, and stuff for your trip.
i'm the only passenger (single ladies are you taking notes ;-) )
no pets.
the truck bed is usually pretty empty.
and i won't play games to get it to work weight wise.
i don't have much in the way of ' heavy stuff '.
groceries can be purchased at my destinations.
i'm more of a campground guy so i'll run with all the tanks pretty dry.

thanks for reminding me of the big picture :-)
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Ricky, if you're going solo then definitely go for the rear camera. You don't need the nav, it's in the rear view mirror. Much faster and easier than having someone directing you!
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i'm the only passenger (single ladies are you taking notes ;-) )
no pets.
the truck bed is usually pretty empty.
and i won't play games to get it to work weight wise.
i don't have much in the way of ' heavy stuff '.
groceries can be purchased at my destinations.
i'm more of a campground guy so i'll run with all the tanks pretty dry.

thanks for reminding me of the big picture :-)
Do you know anyone with a half ton (any brand) who would hook up your trailer and run to the scales? Although it wouldn't be exact, you could emulate your running loads and get a pretty close idea of RGAW and GCW. All the half tons are within a few hundred pounds of each other..
If you can do this, take the time to ensure proper tongue weight and WD setup. Might help answer a lot of your questions. Maybe your dealer has a half ton demo???
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Why do people ask for advice when their mind is already made up? Sal.
Because he asked for help building his 2012 Ford 150 and only a very few answered the question. No one has called him nuts or dangerous yet even through he has pointed out he is within specs, but the thread is still young.

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