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10-18-2012, 01:25 PM
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#21
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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Oh, as far as showers, a local gym membership
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10-23-2012, 01:24 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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A little mini update. Still no skirting and just a Mr. Heater Propane heater, and nights of about 14°. The trailer is a little cold. along the walls and in patches. I do have frost sneaking in by the rivits. I had a little delay on the woodstove, I need a aluminum piece fabricated to cover the window that the pipe is going out. I am convinced once I get my little stove going all will thaw out, fast.
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10-23-2012, 01:32 PM
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#23
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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A picture of the frost that kinda hangs out:
Doesn't look too uncomfortable, right?
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10-23-2012, 03:32 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 34' Limited
Wheat Ridge
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 71
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Love it! People keep their houses to warm! If you live in cold places your house doesn't need to be 75 or 80!
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10-23-2012, 05:26 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyfishrra
Would love to swap ideas and stories!
ps. my parents live in Tok and work in Fairbanks!
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We have long ago friends tha live in TOK, the 'Landers'. They moved there in the seventies, surely your parents must know them.
Barry & Karen in sunny balmy (73* today) Mich.
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10-24-2012, 10:31 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 34' Limited
Wheat Ridge
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 71
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I will have to ask them! I bet they do! Was 73 here yesterday! Snow tonight!
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10-24-2012, 03:28 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StreamlineAK
A picture of the frost that kinda hangs out:
Doesn't look too uncomfortable, right?
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Love it! My grandparents had a '66 or '67 Empress with the double bed configuration.
Will be interested in how it goes as I hope to move away from the hot part of the US next year. Learning from these threads on "winter".
Anyone have any thoughts on "sealing" the exterior of jalousie windows? Interior storm windows sound great (and were optional on some trailer brands), but I've always wondered about preventing the cold incursion by starting on the exterior.
Where I live it is about heat & sun load. Interior drapes are great, but shading or covering the exterior of a window is far better.
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10-24-2012, 03:31 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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10-25-2012, 08:31 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1983 34' Limited
Wheat Ridge
, Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 71
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Rednax,
We are thinking about trying out the 3M window films. We have 12 windows ( counting the little view ones below the bigger ones) and 9 of them open. We want to be able to open a few for those 60 degree winter days we get in colorado. This stuff looks like it would work well and seal off most of the window drafts. Going to maybe try to put some on this weekend.
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Originally Posted by REDNAX
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10-26-2012, 04:23 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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Rednax, I like the window covers... but what surprised me more, a 80's Toyota 4runner pulling that thing!
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10-28-2012, 10:00 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1966 26' Overlander
Coeur d'Alene
, Idaho
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 25
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Curious the make/model of your wood stove?
Would love to see and hear more about your experience with this!
We are trying to make our '66 Overlander as Off-Grid as possible and wood is a great option for both heat & cooking.
Happy Winter!
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10-29-2012, 02:57 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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Well there are RV specific wood stoves, By Marine Stoves and the Kimberly woodstove. Both of these options are pricey, like WAY pricey. I bought a Morso 1410 Coal Model, which I am really in love with right now, I hope I continue to be after I get it going.
Marine Stoves by Navigator Stove Works: Traditional Cast Iron Marine Stoves by Navigator Stove Works,Inc.
Kimberly woodstove: Unforgettable Fire LLC | Home of Kimberly, the Stove with a Social Conscience
and my wood stove (the morso): Morsø 1410
The Morso is NOT trailer approved! But I am sure it will be fine, I have a big piece of granite hearth and double wall pipe that will act as a fresh air inlet, and protect the walls from heat. The Morso, although pricey with the double wall pipe, is still about $1,000 less than the above two options.
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10-29-2012, 04:05 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1966 26' Overlander
Coeur d'Alene
, Idaho
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 25
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Your Morso is a good looking stove! As you get it installed and use it be sure to give an update!
I like the size and weight of the Kimberly...but its hard to justify spending more on a stove than I did for my trailer.
Thanks for the info!
If you don't mind sharing what are you doing in Alaska?
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10-29-2012, 05:15 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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If you don't mind sharing what are you doing in Alaska?
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Well, living! My husband and I needed to move for job/ economic reasons, and Alaska, for us, was the place to go. The trailer became an idea after we got up here. I work here in Anchorage, my husband works out in the "bush" like so many Alaskans do, so for this winter, it is mostly little 'ol me. Eventaully, we would like to split our time with lower 48 desert, or Mexico, and here. Or build a cabin, and our trailer can be the guest house/ road tripper. We also did the trailer thing in the lower 48, but started living in "normal" houses when we had trouble finding places to park (I don't think we tried hard enough). I don't want to encourage more people in Alaska... but it pretty much is awesome here. Bad weather, but awesome, absolutely amazing, for outdoors people.
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10-29-2012, 07:16 PM
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#35
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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The stove in our trailer. It is hard to see the really cool squirrel on the side, but I think it fits well!
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11-05-2012, 11:21 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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Comfy in the single digits last night (I saw 7 degrees on the truck temp gauge this morning), and still no wood stove!
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11-05-2012, 11:59 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,226
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Sounds like you have the right background for wintering in Alaska.
I noticed an electric heater in one of your posts. I do not recommend using these. It is by far the most expensive heat and they can be dangerous so close to flammable materials. I have done some winter camping and I do recommend an electric blanket with a good down quilt over it to keep the heat in.
I do like Paula's idea of a secondary straw bail structure, but maybe with your experience you won't need it.
I did not see the outside combustion air inlet for the stove. I like your stove. If miners could live in a tent with a coal stove, it should be a piece of cake living in your trailer (for the experienced miners that is).
Stay warm, but stay safe. Make sure all exhaust is safely piped to the outside.
Dan
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11-12-2012, 01:17 PM
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#38
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3 Rivet Member
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Anchorage
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 142
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WOOD/ COAL STOVE is in, and absolutely awesome. Easily gets the room temperature too hot. The last two evenings the "living room" was about 80 degrees and 65 degrees first thing in the morning after less attention. I believe this stove will really keep a nice temperature even in the coldest days. All ice, and cold air pockets gone. The install seems very safe, no where is getting hot to touch (besides the pipe itself). The mounting brackets for the pipe are on the piece of aluminum we got cut for the window, so nothing was altered on the trailer, and it can easily be removed.
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WARM! by waywardcatphoto, on Flickr[/IMG]
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11-12-2012, 09:50 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 Interstate
Normal
, Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 18,089
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One of the things about first having a wood stove is that they are so fun to use that fire tends to become recreational. . Ya want to keep refueling just for the thrill of watching it burn.
Maggie
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11-13-2012, 08:25 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,062
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Getting heat greedy with coal can be outright terrifying if/when its been over loaded and it all decides to catch at once. Don't allow people unaccustomed to coal to load the fire!
There is an ART to building up the right ash bed from wood and getting a central column area of coal hot enough to burn chunks completely yet be able to stack a few new pieces into the matrix to pre-heat & ignite without collapsing & quenching the core. Done smartly a small bucket of coal can last a day or two.
When I was seriously cold and needed the fire ASAP I experimented with coal nuggets, chips and dust in rolled up & knotted newspaper, with hardwood chips mixed in - not to really ignite the coal but for the ash to hold it in place while a hot wood fire got the 'heat' going. It is that pre-heat that causes the coal to outgass and start to start the true burning, the layers of glowing coal & ash then work inward as a slow motion blue-hot hissing burn that can melt common metals.
In a pinch a propane torch will get a hot-spot going that will support establishing real heat output 'more' rapidly but if it is truly cold (-20 & below) one might have to warm the propane bottle first, especially if the fuel has any butane in it like cheap foreign import brands might have. Beware propane tank seal o-rings at those temperatures, unscrewing the burner/valve in that cold can reveal the o-rings failed to seal and cause a 5-foot fountain plume of propane. Way too exciting if one is standing next to the open stove when it happens so forget about that one, take my word for it.
Anyhow - good luck with your new best friend!
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