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Old 05-16-2014, 11:09 AM   #101
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Hello - I am curious do you think you could have stayed just as warm with a 3 electric fan heaters as you do with the stove? Also what is the cost of electricity compared to the coal for heat?

There is NO WAY electric heat could have kept it as warm as the coal, nor would I want too! I would expect electric heat to be monthly what I spend yearly, about $400. In our old trailer at least, it's just not insulated like a house.
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Old 05-17-2014, 10:51 AM   #102
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how much of a smoky odor is retained in the coach?
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:13 PM   #103
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is there a smoky odor retained from coal? I don't know that is why I am asking.
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:36 PM   #104
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The inside water stays fairly warm, my issue is draining the grey water, and my water source. Also, I never got that darn furnace fixed, so it has been exclusively coal/wood again this last year.

The Kimberly would not be overkill! My trailer is 29' and the Morso is a much larger stove than the Kimberly (from what I know). I found on the coldest days, a second heat source on the opposite side end of the trailer was helpful.
I was curious about this as well - the Morso site says the 1410 outputs 30,000 btu's per hour - the Kimberly wood stove outputs 42,500 BTU's per hour - is the output wrong for the Morso, or the Kimberly? It appears that the Kimberly outputs more heat, and might take up a smaller space. Also most of your pipe is outside your trailer - Is this because most of the heat calculation is from the pipe through the ceiling? Or does this mean that you are loosing the heat benefit of the pipe through the coach, or does the majority of the heat come from the stove itself? I am considering living in a A/S with my family and want to understand what will be required to maintain a warm environment for the little ones. Although it sounds that you and your wife are doing great - these stove installs in a stream seems to be more than meets the eye for heating.
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Old 05-24-2014, 04:07 PM   #105
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I centered the hole for the pipe, just to keep it as far away from less heat resistant material as possible.Attachment 210487 I have not found the log size to be a problem, it's really not much smaller than I previously cut my wood. And don't forget you can put in a little bigger logs diagonal.
Hello Strealine AK, It isn't a problem to install it in a trailer ? I've already thought for this solution but it isn't dangerous ? you can install and use it safety ? Let me know the advantages & inconvenients please, I wish you share your experience with it

I hope like a child your answers !

Your photos are very nice !!

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Old 05-25-2014, 11:50 AM   #106
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is there a smoky odor retained from coal? I don't know that is why I am asking.

No odor! But I the trailer interior does get dusty in the winter. I have to do a lot of dusting!

I chose the Morso because it was cheaper than the Kimberly, and that it was cast iron (I was more convinced of cast irons safety burning 100% coal). I also knew we would not need to move the trailer very often so the 250 lb stove wouldn't be a problem. In all honesty, I think the Kimberly is a better stove for trailer use if you can afford $4000. Also, I would like to mention, my trailer is not airtight, in a newer, more sealed trailer, a fresh air inlet is likely needed. I am actually looking into a new trailer or a complete restore of this one, and I am reconsidering options.
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Old 05-25-2014, 11:54 AM   #107
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I was curious about this as well - the Morso site says the 1410 outputs 30,000 btu's per hour - the Kimberly wood stove outputs 42,500 BTU's per hour - is the output wrong for the Morso, or the Kimberly? It appears that the Kimberly outputs more heat, and might take up a smaller space. Also most of your pipe is outside your trailer - Is this because most of the heat calculation is from the pipe through the ceiling? Or does this mean that you are loosing the heat benefit of the pipe through the coach, or does the majority of the heat come from the stove itself? I am considering living in a A/S with my family and want to understand what will be required to maintain a warm environment for the little ones. Although it sounds that you and your wife are doing great - these stove installs in a stream seems to be more than meets the eye for heating.

I wonder what solid fuel the Kimberly numbers are based on? (Wood, coal, pellets, bricketts, etc)? I am curious myself, I'm going to do a little research.
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I wonder what solid fuel the Kimberly numbers are based on? (Wood, coal, pellets, bricketts, etc)? I am curious myself, I'm going to do a little research.
According to the Kimberly website it is burning wood, and outputting huge numbers. I also wonder how much additional heat comes from the exhaust pipe. Do you think this pipe adds to the heat output, or does Kimberly calculate the 42,500 BTU's/hour with a certain length of pipe inside of the coach? Since it is a tertiary or secondary ignition furnace can it also burn coal or is it a wood only unit? I know you don't have any experience with the Kimberly I am just trying to forward think before we make any major purchases that we would take a hit on if they didn't work.
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On my stove, I used insulated double wall pipe so it was almost cool enough to touch. I believe they recommend double wall stainless pellet stove pipe for the Kimberly, so I think it would put off some heat, but it can't be too much if it is designed to use pellet stove pipe! I have read in the past that the Kimberly will burn coal, but I don't see that stated on their website (maybe due to regulations?). The big advantage I see to the Kimberly is the size, weight and it seems very easy to bolt down/ secure.
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Old 06-03-2014, 10:44 PM   #110
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I would like to make official announcement, I am ending updates to this thread (although feel free to keep asking questions about this set up) because I am retiring the 1968 Empress.... And moving into a 2014 Flying Cloud! I am starting a new thread covering my winterization and life in the new trailer.

The Empress has been a fantastic trailer, but after two years, I am ready for year round water and a little more "plushness". I plan to retire the Morso coal stove (a great stove, but I don't want coal soot on my new baby and the new trailer needs something with a smaller footprint). Stay tuned for further updates.
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I smell Kimberly - or am I off base?
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I smell Kimberly - or am I off base?

Right on target, I am seriously considering a Kimberly.
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Old 06-06-2014, 06:09 AM   #113
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I would like to make official announcement, I am ending updates to this thread (although feel free to keep asking questions about this set up) because I am retiring the 1968 Empress.... And moving into a 2014 Flying Cloud! I am starting a new thread covering my winterization and life in the new trailer.

The Empress has been a fantastic trailer, but after two years, I am ready for year round water and a little more "plushness". I plan to retire the Morso coal stove (a great stove, but I don't want coal soot on my new baby and the new trailer needs something with a smaller footprint). Stay tuned for further updates.
Interesting thread, kudos to you for doing it & surviving comfortably. If you plan on using the water in your new Airstream, check to make sure none of the water lines run beneath the floor, as they will freeze if you're not using the original forced air furnace that has ducting to that area.
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Old 06-06-2014, 06:37 AM   #114
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When will we see picts of the new trailer?
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Soon! I am driving down to the states on the 12th of this month to pick it up. I will have Alaska Hwy pictures
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Sounds like a great journey ahead of you, Are you planning on going the flat route or the white knuckle scenic route? Please post pictures and information on condition of roads and highways, we are planning on making that journey soon as well.
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Hi there travelers.
I find is strangely ironic that she sells hers and I buy mine.
1966 32' streamliner. Bought 6-15-2014.
Id like to keep this thread going if thats ok with everyone?
I am in ND which has very similar weather conditions.
I plan to re insulate the floors since the old stuff is worn out and basicly useless.
Im planning to buy a wood stove/coal stove. And would love some input....
Ill post pictures tonight so that those dreamers and live vicariously through this thread. Heres where it all started.
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So are you gonna use a Kimberly or sob?
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Old 06-20-2014, 07:04 AM   #119
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hankthetank -do your own 'Dakota Vortex', err... 'Dakota Winterliner' or 'Vinter unzee tin snitzle' somesuch thread? Okay, maybe not the snitzle one so maybe 'Dakota blizzard liner' - eeee... okay fine, you tink of something.

A good introduction and a few pictures & indeed you'll have at least us northern prairie folk hooked.

Looking forward to seeing your project!
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Also some southern folks with roots in the north, Michigan, who are intrigued by the idea of living comfortably in an aluminum tube in the winter.

Yup, looking forward to it.

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