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Old 11-14-2012, 04:11 PM   #41
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Ya want to keep refueling just for the thrill of watching it burn.
After most of my adult life with wood heat, I'm kinda over it. BUT something does feel missing when it isn't there!
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Old 11-14-2012, 04:12 PM   #42
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In a pinch a propane torch will get a hot-spot going that will support establishing real heat output 'more' rapidly
the "big lighter" is the way to go! $15 well spent. I start with wood, then add the coal as it gets going.
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OMG!!! thats AWESOME!!!!!
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Old 11-19-2012, 03:13 AM   #44
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Hi StreamlinaAK
Just wondering how is the Alaska weather treating you? Love your thread and the stove!
Please keep the pics coming!
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:57 PM   #45
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Doing good! Single digits these days and it is quite nice in the trailer. Very warm by the roof, but the trailer is drafty enough that is still stays cool near the floor. The coal is great to burn, very slow and hot. Still in love with the Morso, it is a great stove. This year , so far, has been very mild, we don't have much in the way of snow, just a couple of inches. I hope we get a little more for insulation!
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Old 12-04-2012, 05:08 PM   #46
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It has been a VERY light snow year, but I do have to say that the temperature has not been as friendly. -13 at the trailer today. The coal stove is nice, I have seen temps in the 90s in the trailer, BUT it is drafty, as poster eariler, the floor stays quite cold. Due mind, that the trailer is not skirted. I do wake up in the night to stoke the stove, our coal here is sub-bitumious coal, so it is not the best quality, but burns decent. When the fire does go out, the temps do drop fast, I have came home to 34 degrees after 10 hours at work. So it is mostly comfortable, but these cold temps do mean it drops fast, but by no means un-livable. Still loving the Morso stove. No signs of fresh air issues or bad draft.

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Thanks for the update and glad to here that you seem to be doing well. But -13 degrees! Yikes but that is mighty cold. I think that if your trailer were skirted that the floor would not be nearly as cold. I wonder if a fan operating might even out the temperature gradient from the ceiling to the floor.

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Some straw bales around the edge, one or two 100 watt light bulbs under there, it might add up to a significant increase in floor warmth at a very reasonable investment cost. It's never too late to try, is it?
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Yeah but then I have to work out in the cold! I SHOULD skirt it, but it is doing ok. Strawbales are actaully kinda of expensive here too, as well as a fire danger, but I know it would really help. Although, sometimes it is hot enough the cool floors are needed!
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I really think you need to skirt your trailer. It will make the floor substantially warmer and will save a significant amount of money for your coal budget.

There are lots of ways to skirt a trailer, but I have throught of one that I believe would be cheap and effective. Typically, fiberglass wall insulation comes with a kraft paper on one side and just fiberglass insulation on the other side. Lately I have seen it sold with the fiberglass insulation being contained in a sleeve. I believe the sleeve was plastic. This will protect the fiberglass, improve the insulation value by providing a built in air space and keep the insulation from getting wet. If the sleeved insulation is not available, I would just make my own sleeve using house wrap. My plan would be to tape the sleeved insulation to the Airstream, using duct tape of course, and secure the lower side to the ground by covering with some gravel. I would use 24" wide insulation. Hopefully, you will then get some snow that will provide more insulation on top of the skirting.

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Here is the insulation I am talking about: It is called ComfortTherm. Cost is only about $18/roll (R13- 3.5x15x32 ft). Three rolls would do all your skirting, so only about $60.

Food for thought.

Thanks for all the great photos!

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We regularly get very high winds here, foam and fiberglass are out unless I have a wind barrier (straw bales), but thanks for the suggestion!
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Amazing!

Wow! This is awesome.

My wife and I full-time in New England. We buy about 20 straw bales each fall and jam them around the belly of our beast. It keeps the belly a lot warmer. In a standard bale size, it is around R55 according to the internet. We use a probe style digital thermometer to monitor the temps for our pipe area inside the bale cocoon. Good Luck!

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Yeah but then I have to work out in the cold! I SHOULD skirt it, but it is doing ok. Strawbales are actaully kinda of expensive here too, as well as a fire danger, but I know it would really help. Although, sometimes it is hot enough the cool floors are needed!
Uh, is "working out in the cold" better in February, when it gets a "bit" cooler outside?

And even if bales of straw are silly expensive, remember come February (apart from the increase in interior warmth) that they have the potential to cut your LP gas and your coal usage down drastically. In the case of the coal, that also means less work outside to get rid of the ash and clinkers, dunnit?

Just sayin'...
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Hi all,

Really enjoying this thread. I am a newbie how wants to use our new Airstream this winter, but worried about freezing. It was winterized when we left the dealership. I am terrified to put water in it and attempt to re-winterize. After reading this thread, maybe the Airstream is not as fragile as I thought.

StreamlineAK, how is it that you don't worry about you tanks freezing and pipes bursting? I have a 2013, does it mean if my propane is on while traveling, the tanks and pipes wii not freeze?

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Hi all,

StreamlineAK, how is it that you don't worry about you tanks freezing and pipes bursting? I have a 2013, does it mean if my propane is on while traveling, the tanks and pipes wii not freeze?

Thanks for any input.
They would absolutely be frozen, BUT my trailer is dry right now, no liquid in the tanks or lines. I use a countertop water dispenser and wash dishes/ cook with that. In these temps, it would be difficult, but I believe if you had a water source that was winterized it would be possible. My water source (a hose) is not.

What type of temperatures do you travel in? I believe there is a lot of threads more specific to the topic.
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We have not winterized the trailer yet and haven't had a problem. We use the water tank. Partially so the hose won't freeze but also because the spout is 200ft away! Tomorrow the low will be 13 and the high 20. I have no worries about it. The trailer is warm and we will be fine!
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Just as an update, trailer, wood/ coal stove is still working great! We are in a mid winter warm up due to Chinook winds, so it hasn't been cold at all, which has been awesome. Been quite comfy! Adore my Morso stove.
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Thanks for daring to be different ! Teach these "old dogs" some new tricks if you can ! Have you solved your door freeze issue ? How much of an issue is soot on the skin? I have a friend who took to burning coal for the nostalgia, bought a garbage can full at the local powerplant for like $5, his neighbors weren't too happy about the soot though !
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Thanks for daring to be different ! Teach these "old dogs" some new tricks if you can ! Have you solved your door freeze issue ? How much of an issue is soot on the skin? I have a friend who took to burning coal for the nostalgia, bought a garbage can full at the local powerplant for like $5, his neighbors weren't too happy about the soot though !
Thanks!

The door freeze issue has not been a problem, not a lot of condensation now that it is real winter and with the stove. Although it has REALLY been a light year, not too much cold or snow. Kind of disappointing.

The soot level is a very good question! It isn't too bad. Here is a picture:
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